Harry and Meghan on 11:19 - Sep 23 with 3156 views | itfcjoe | It’s fairly obvious surely, the royal family have always been strictly apolitical and this breaks with that. It’s not ok to just to make exceptions when they agree with your stance, it’s all or nothing | |
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Harry and Meghan on 11:26 - Sep 23 with 3128 views | Guthrum |
Harry and Meghan on 11:19 - Sep 23 by itfcjoe | It’s fairly obvious surely, the royal family have always been strictly apolitical and this breaks with that. It’s not ok to just to make exceptions when they agree with your stance, it’s all or nothing |
Not strictly true. The Queen herself has always been careful to keep out of politics. But other members of the family - including the heir to the throne, frequently - have expressed political views. Previous monarchs also had a significant impact upon policy, even since the post-1714 (partly forced) withdrawal from direct involvement. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 11:33 - Sep 23 with 3099 views | Ftnfwest | this is all lies anyway, they're living the quiet life in Canada away from the media spotlight | | | |
Harry and Meghan on 11:50 - Sep 23 with 3067 views | Oldsmoker |
Harry and Meghan on 11:19 - Sep 23 by itfcjoe | It’s fairly obvious surely, the royal family have always been strictly apolitical and this breaks with that. It’s not ok to just to make exceptions when they agree with your stance, it’s all or nothing |
But haven't they left the Royal family? They have according to the Daily Fail. The DM sees them as pariahs, lepers and don't get them started on that "evil witch Megan Markle who has corrupted Harrys mind". It's one less celebrity couple that they can fawn over and fill their pages with nonsense. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:01 - Sep 23 with 3045 views | BlueBadger |
Harry and Meghan on 11:26 - Sep 23 by Guthrum | Not strictly true. The Queen herself has always been careful to keep out of politics. But other members of the family - including the heir to the throne, frequently - have expressed political views. Previous monarchs also had a significant impact upon policy, even since the post-1714 (partly forced) withdrawal from direct involvement. |
Exactly. Charles, in particular has been frequently outspoken in issues which concern him. I wonder what it is about the non-white foreigner Meghan that sections of the press and public object too? | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:11 - Sep 23 with 3026 views | itfcjoe |
Harry and Meghan on 11:26 - Sep 23 by Guthrum | Not strictly true. The Queen herself has always been careful to keep out of politics. But other members of the family - including the heir to the throne, frequently - have expressed political views. Previous monarchs also had a significant impact upon policy, even since the post-1714 (partly forced) withdrawal from direct involvement. |
Has Charles done it so publicly? I know he has lobbied previously but not really the same as something as nakedly political as this. I make them and their views right, but that doesn’t make it ok | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:17 - Sep 23 with 2998 views | TractorWood |
Harry and Meghan on 11:19 - Sep 23 by itfcjoe | It’s fairly obvious surely, the royal family have always been strictly apolitical and this breaks with that. It’s not ok to just to make exceptions when they agree with your stance, it’s all or nothing |
I think it's a grey area as they are now outside of the Royal family and basically have no formal role. It's the problem that will beleaguer them for their rest of their lives like Edward VIII, people are peripherally interested in them, their egos compel them to keep talking but frankly their compulsion to leave captivity means the content is meaningless and will fade as their relevance dwindles. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 12:20]
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Harry and Meghan on 12:34 - Sep 23 with 2957 views | BlueBadger |
Harry and Meghan on 12:11 - Sep 23 by itfcjoe | Has Charles done it so publicly? I know he has lobbied previously but not really the same as something as nakedly political as this. I make them and their views right, but that doesn’t make it ok |
Given that they're now effectively private individuals, surely they can can issue as many political statements as they want, just like any other celebrity couple? In any case, Diana, to cite another example was frequently outspoken on issues of concern to HER such as the treatment of HIV/AIDS sufferers and landmines. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 12:35]
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Harry and Meghan on 12:39 - Sep 23 with 2939 views | Guthrum |
Harry and Meghan on 12:11 - Sep 23 by itfcjoe | Has Charles done it so publicly? I know he has lobbied previously but not really the same as something as nakedly political as this. I make them and their views right, but that doesn’t make it ok |
Given the issues they're speaking about (rejecting hate speech, promoting democracy), are general ones rather than specifically party political - much like Charles' longtime advocacy of environmental matters - then it shouldn't be a problem. Unless, that is, the Republicans are keen to align themselves with being antidemocratic and fuelled by racism. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:44 - Sep 23 with 2920 views | Ryorry |
Harry and Meghan on 12:34 - Sep 23 by BlueBadger | Given that they're now effectively private individuals, surely they can can issue as many political statements as they want, just like any other celebrity couple? In any case, Diana, to cite another example was frequently outspoken on issues of concern to HER such as the treatment of HIV/AIDS sufferers and landmines. [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 12:35]
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Re your first para - quite - and particularly when stating things as innocuous as 'exercise your right to vote' and 'don't spread hate speech' - which every decent human being would agree with. But then this is the Daily Fail, and it's hard work selling newspapers these days unless you have trigger stories to pull in the blue rinses from Berkshire. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:51 - Sep 23 with 2901 views | BlueBadger |
Harry and Meghan on 12:44 - Sep 23 by Ryorry | Re your first para - quite - and particularly when stating things as innocuous as 'exercise your right to vote' and 'don't spread hate speech' - which every decent human being would agree with. But then this is the Daily Fail, and it's hard work selling newspapers these days unless you have trigger stories to pull in the blue rinses from Berkshire. |
As I said below, I wonder what it is about outspoken non-white person Meghan that the Mail and its readership hate? | |
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Harry and Meghan on 12:56 - Sep 23 with 2891 views | solomon | They’re no longer Royals so they can say whatever they want, purely up to them. They’re making the most of their celebrity status whilst they can, it won’t last forever, especially considering where they’ve chose to live. | | | |
Harry and Meghan on 13:12 - Sep 23 with 2850 views | BlueBadger |
Harry and Meghan on 12:39 - Sep 23 by Guthrum | Given the issues they're speaking about (rejecting hate speech, promoting democracy), are general ones rather than specifically party political - much like Charles' longtime advocacy of environmental matters - then it shouldn't be a problem. Unless, that is, the Republicans are keen to align themselves with being antidemocratic and fuelled by racism. |
This is the thing isn't it? It's seen as partial because the US Republicans in general, Trump in particular and to a lesser degree the Conservative party here have been pretty much going down the 'hate speech and suppress democracy route' for some time now. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 13:30 - Sep 23 with 2802 views | Ryorry |
Harry and Meghan on 13:12 - Sep 23 by BlueBadger | This is the thing isn't it? It's seen as partial because the US Republicans in general, Trump in particular and to a lesser degree the Conservative party here have been pretty much going down the 'hate speech and suppress democracy route' for some time now. |
Yep, touched a nerve esp in the USA. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 13:33 - Sep 23 with 2784 views | ElderGrizzly | The Trump supporting Daily Mail being against a black woman speaking up? Surely not... | | | |
Harry and Meghan on 13:38 - Sep 23 with 2779 views | BlueBadger |
Harry and Meghan on 11:33 - Sep 23 by Ftnfwest | this is all lies anyway, they're living the quiet life in Canada away from the media spotlight |
Imagine people wanting to be able to interact with the press on a consensual basis rather than intrusion. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 13:45 - Sep 23 with 2761 views | Darth_Koont |
Harry and Meghan on 11:26 - Sep 23 by Guthrum | Not strictly true. The Queen herself has always been careful to keep out of politics. But other members of the family - including the heir to the throne, frequently - have expressed political views. Previous monarchs also had a significant impact upon policy, even since the post-1714 (partly forced) withdrawal from direct involvement. |
Indeed. And this is positively socialist from Prince Charles: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-new-york/military-style-marsha | |
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Harry and Meghan on 13:50 - Sep 23 with 2746 views | J2BLUE | Meh. She's fully entitled to speak about American politics surely? As for Harry, he's never getting near the throne and has made an effort to remove himself. Just leave him be. | |
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Harry and Meghan on 16:27 - Sep 23 with 2631 views | The_Major | "They need to pay their own way and give us the money back for the cottage" "Well, we've just signed a multi million dollar agreement with Netflix, so here's the money we apparently owe you" "NO, NOT LIKE THAT" | | | |
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