was much said about LC being dropped? 11:12 - Feb 7 with 3579 views | textbackup | I didn't come on here yesterday to gauge the feeling. guessing some would have said it was a bad move and the team was too young/lacking a "leader" | |
| | |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:19 - Feb 7 with 2698 views | itfcjoe | I didn’t post much on here yesterday, but personally think we’d be better off with him in the centre back pairing as Woolfie and McG have struggled up against experienced strikers - players like Pitman and Wyke for Sunderland in recent weeks have mugged them off time and time again. Both played ok yesterday, but think stroke of luck that Madine was not fit. Guess game on Tuesday will be off which will help them settle together | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:20 - Feb 7 with 2667 views | Bluefish | I think we are still vulnerable to set pieces as the 1st half showed, we rode our luck. We were never really tested though because they rolled over when we scored and never got going again. Happy to keep it so long as woolfenden can continue to develop. He has been going backwards all season without an experienced partner. Him a mcguiness look a bit more settled and the goal has done him wonders. We shouldn't however write Chambers off and we shouldn't turn on him. All players get phased out eventually including our former legends | |
| |
Fairly indifferent really.... on 11:23 - Feb 7 with 2664 views | Bloots | ....I think he should have played, he's better than McGuiness, but it didn't bite Shambert in the arse mainly because Madine wasn't playing. If the game is on on Tuesday I think the two youngsters could struggle against JCH for Posh. But generally I don't think many people care anymore. Lambert out. | |
| Elite Level Poster: Elite Level Supporter: Elite Level Human |
| |
I should have read this first. (n/t) on 11:24 - Feb 7 with 2642 views | Bloots |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:19 - Feb 7 by itfcjoe | I didn’t post much on here yesterday, but personally think we’d be better off with him in the centre back pairing as Woolfie and McG have struggled up against experienced strikers - players like Pitman and Wyke for Sunderland in recent weeks have mugged them off time and time again. Both played ok yesterday, but think stroke of luck that Madine was not fit. Guess game on Tuesday will be off which will help them settle together |
| |
| Elite Level Poster: Elite Level Supporter: Elite Level Human |
| |
Fairly indifferent really.... on 11:25 - Feb 7 with 2629 views | Bluefish |
Fairly indifferent really.... on 11:23 - Feb 7 by Bloots | ....I think he should have played, he's better than McGuiness, but it didn't bite Shambert in the arse mainly because Madine wasn't playing. If the game is on on Tuesday I think the two youngsters could struggle against JCH for Posh. But generally I don't think many people care anymore. Lambert out. |
Many have some severe chafing on their manhoods today because he was dropped | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:32 - Feb 7 with 2599 views | SitfcB | As others have said he should’ve played in the middle with Woolfenden. Luckily Blackpool didn’t really offer any threat, although they had a couple of decent chances from set pieces. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:34 - Feb 7 with 2565 views | Bluefish |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:32 - Feb 7 by SitfcB | As others have said he should’ve played in the middle with Woolfenden. Luckily Blackpool didn’t really offer any threat, although they had a couple of decent chances from set pieces. |
I expect it was more about resting our stalwart and stand out defender this season, arguably player of the season, because he had heroically played so many minutes this season | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:35 - Feb 7 with 2567 views | textbackup |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:20 - Feb 7 by Bluefish | I think we are still vulnerable to set pieces as the 1st half showed, we rode our luck. We were never really tested though because they rolled over when we scored and never got going again. Happy to keep it so long as woolfenden can continue to develop. He has been going backwards all season without an experienced partner. Him a mcguiness look a bit more settled and the goal has done him wonders. We shouldn't however write Chambers off and we shouldn't turn on him. All players get phased out eventually including our former legends |
absolutely LC still has a part to play. I actually thought it was poor from PL not to bring him on around 70/75 for the kids at right back. as it was we didn't concede, and that decision is irrelevant. | |
| | Login to get fewer ads
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 with 2543 views | Garv |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:32 - Feb 7 by SitfcB | As others have said he should’ve played in the middle with Woolfenden. Luckily Blackpool didn’t really offer any threat, although they had a couple of decent chances from set pieces. |
Why? McGuinness is playing well and our best defender currently, and Woolfenden needs to get minutes and be developed, so a lot of people have said recently. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 with 2534 views | SitfcB |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 by Garv | Why? McGuinness is playing well and our best defender currently, and Woolfenden needs to get minutes and be developed, so a lot of people have said recently. |
1. He’s not our player. 2. He’s not that good. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:44 - Feb 7 with 2493 views | Bluefish |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 by Garv | Why? McGuinness is playing well and our best defender currently, and Woolfenden needs to get minutes and be developed, so a lot of people have said recently. |
If you ever need reminding how much of legend Chambers is w had 3 players in our team yesterday named after him and they had one of our former players on their bench that was obviously named after him as well. That is greatness | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:45 - Feb 7 with 2499 views | textbackup |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:34 - Feb 7 by Bluefish | I expect it was more about resting our stalwart and stand out defender this season, arguably player of the season, because he had heroically played so many minutes this season |
he defiantly started the season well - i'd not be even remotely close to making him POTS tho, he has been terrible of late. 41 misplaced passes the other week wasn't it? needs a rest, and hopefully finish the season strong so we get that 11th place finish | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:48 - Feb 7 with 2473 views | Bluefish |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:45 - Feb 7 by textbackup | he defiantly started the season well - i'd not be even remotely close to making him POTS tho, he has been terrible of late. 41 misplaced passes the other week wasn't it? needs a rest, and hopefully finish the season strong so we get that 11th place finish |
Performances he dipped a bit but not how many you think are ahead of him | |
| |
arf! on 11:50 - Feb 7 with 2480 views | Dyland |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:34 - Feb 7 by Bluefish | I expect it was more about resting our stalwart and stand out defender this season, arguably player of the season, because he had heroically played so many minutes this season |
I like Chambers, but.... gmpf | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:51 - Feb 7 with 2465 views | textbackup |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:48 - Feb 7 by Bluefish | Performances he dipped a bit but not how many you think are ahead of him |
sorry, im a bit lost on what you mean, predictive text hasn't been kind there lol | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:23 - Feb 7 with 2341 views | Herbivore |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 by Garv | Why? McGuinness is playing well and our best defender currently, and Woolfenden needs to get minutes and be developed, so a lot of people have said recently. |
McGuiness always has a game changing error in him, sadly. And he's not our player, so if we help to get those game changing errors out of him it's of no benefit to us. Him and Woolf at the back hasn't worked, their inexperience has been shown up too many times. We'll face sterner tests than Blackpool missing by far their best striker. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:28 - Feb 7 with 2316 views | GlasgowBlue |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:48 - Feb 7 by Bluefish | Performances he dipped a bit but not how many you think are ahead of him |
It's all about opinions. And my opinion is that Chambers hasn't been the same player since the relegation season. He was poor during the relegation season and seemed to have lost a yard of pace. Last season he was error prone from the off (Sunderland in the second game) and had a mistake in him during most games. We were usually punished with a goal due to those mistakes. Like Ward, he got off to a flyer earlier this season but his form has dropped massively and the unforced errors returned. He was also getting drawn out of position time and again. He's been a great servant to the club but his time has passed. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:41 - Feb 7 with 2252 views | Garv |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 11:38 - Feb 7 by SitfcB | 1. He’s not our player. 2. He’s not that good. |
He's contracted to the club for as long as Chambers is currently, who hasn't been all that good recently himself. A lot of our players aren't that good, if you hadn't noticed. Like I say, McGuinness is our most in form defender, and provides a goal threat. No brainier for him to play at the moment. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:43 - Feb 7 with 2240 views | Garv |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:23 - Feb 7 by Herbivore | McGuiness always has a game changing error in him, sadly. And he's not our player, so if we help to get those game changing errors out of him it's of no benefit to us. Him and Woolf at the back hasn't worked, their inexperience has been shown up too many times. We'll face sterner tests than Blackpool missing by far their best striker. |
I'd strongly argue most defenders at our level have that in them. Chambers has shown that himself. McGuinness has shown recently he's also got goal saving blocks and tackles in him too, so his position is justified at the minute. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:45 - Feb 7 with 2230 views | J2BLUE |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:41 - Feb 7 by Garv | He's contracted to the club for as long as Chambers is currently, who hasn't been all that good recently himself. A lot of our players aren't that good, if you hadn't noticed. Like I say, McGuinness is our most in form defender, and provides a goal threat. No brainier for him to play at the moment. |
Most people seem to disagree though. Personaly I don't think he's that good and would prefer Chambers alongside Woolf. Also to Texters, I don't think he was dropped. As you may have heard Lambert mention 20-25 times we have 12 games in five weeks. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:49 - Feb 7 with 2207 views | Herbivore |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:43 - Feb 7 by Garv | I'd strongly argue most defenders at our level have that in them. Chambers has shown that himself. McGuinness has shown recently he's also got goal saving blocks and tackles in him too, so his position is justified at the minute. |
McGuiness has been good for two penalties conceded and an own goal, plus at least two other occasions where him missing the ball or making another glaring error has led to a goal. Probably only Toto is coming close to him in terms of big errors leading to goals. With regards to blocks and tackles, he has a touch of the Penningtons about him where most of his defending s desperate and last ditch because he's been caught out of position to begin with. A section of our fans were impressed with Pennington too. If McGuiness was clearly better than the players we have here then I'd say fair enough, play him. But I'm not seeing it to be honest. I'd rather we focus on continuing to develop Woolf and we'd do that best by pairing him with an experienced partner. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:49 - Feb 7 with 2210 views | Garv |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:45 - Feb 7 by J2BLUE | Most people seem to disagree though. Personaly I don't think he's that good and would prefer Chambers alongside Woolf. Also to Texters, I don't think he was dropped. As you may have heard Lambert mention 20-25 times we have 12 games in five weeks. |
Some people obviously do, which is fair enough. Unless there's a poll somewhere I've missed I'm not sure how you can say 'most' though. Chambers isn't 100% popular amongst the fanbase rightly or wrongly, and I think a large chunk will recognize the attributes McGuinness is giving the team at the moment, despite the odd negative (like most defenders at our level). Personally, if Wilson was fully fit I'd probably try to fit him in there somewhere. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:57 - Feb 7 with 2182 views | Garv |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:49 - Feb 7 by Herbivore | McGuiness has been good for two penalties conceded and an own goal, plus at least two other occasions where him missing the ball or making another glaring error has led to a goal. Probably only Toto is coming close to him in terms of big errors leading to goals. With regards to blocks and tackles, he has a touch of the Penningtons about him where most of his defending s desperate and last ditch because he's been caught out of position to begin with. A section of our fans were impressed with Pennington too. If McGuiness was clearly better than the players we have here then I'd say fair enough, play him. But I'm not seeing it to be honest. I'd rather we focus on continuing to develop Woolf and we'd do that best by pairing him with an experienced partner. |
Regarding your first paragraph, possibly, but I'm not sure how much of that has come in recent weeks. Right now, he's playing well. Woolfenden made a mistake last weekend that led to a goal. I see the Pennington comparison, but you can't put 'most' of his goal saving tackles and blocks down to him being out of position, that's nonsense and frankly lazy. A central defender will always need to do that from time to time, it won't necessarily be down to an error they've made. If promotion is our aim above all else - and all I see at the moment is if we don't go up this season we're stuffed - then surely our best option is to play players who are most likely to get us results, not have someone hold Woolfenden's hand at centre half. He referred to himself as an experienced defender earlier in the season. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 13:04 - Feb 7 with 2148 views | Herbivore |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 12:57 - Feb 7 by Garv | Regarding your first paragraph, possibly, but I'm not sure how much of that has come in recent weeks. Right now, he's playing well. Woolfenden made a mistake last weekend that led to a goal. I see the Pennington comparison, but you can't put 'most' of his goal saving tackles and blocks down to him being out of position, that's nonsense and frankly lazy. A central defender will always need to do that from time to time, it won't necessarily be down to an error they've made. If promotion is our aim above all else - and all I see at the moment is if we don't go up this season we're stuffed - then surely our best option is to play players who are most likely to get us results, not have someone hold Woolfenden's hand at centre half. He referred to himself as an experienced defender earlier in the season. |
It's not about someone holding Woolf's hand, it's about picking a good, balanced side. The two inexperienced CBs have been a problem a number of times this season, especially against better sides. I don't really think McGuiness is particularly better than Woolf even with the latter not being at his best this season. So for me it's Woolf and Chambers in the middle. Good blend of youth and experience to give us a bit more solidity and hopefully avoid some of the naive defending we've been prone to when pairing two rookies together. McGuiness can cover for Woolf when he needs a rest. | |
| |
was much said about LC being dropped? on 13:08 - Feb 7 with 2129 views | jayessess | Lambert suggested he was rested, so I expect he'll be back soon enough. Never should've been asked to play right-back for a half the season in the first place IMO. | |
| |
| |