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China have internally and externally been trying to change the narrative that it started in Wuhan. I believe the latest target is the Indian subcontinent so expect to hear more of that from them.
SB
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Does anyone believe this? on 13:07 - Feb 9 with 3085 views
Does anyone believe this? on 12:59 - Feb 9 by Lord_Lucan
Why is the theory that it escaped from a lab unlikely when they have a bloody great lab in Wuhan where it could have come from.
I don't know why more people aren't questioning this.
Q; Where do you think the Covid virus originating in Wuhan came from
1/ The Wuhan Virology Lab
2/ A Pangolin
3/ A bat
[Post edited 9 Feb 2021 13:14]
Agreed. Blaming frozen food imports appears to be politically motivated and a little desperate. If they can't find a link to animals or this market after looking so hard, what else is there?
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
Does anyone believe this? on 13:03 - Feb 9 by StokieBlue
China have internally and externally been trying to change the narrative that it started in Wuhan. I believe the latest target is the Indian subcontinent so expect to hear more of that from them.
SB
Interesting - that's the first time I've seen India mentioned - how's thT theory work?
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
Does anyone believe this? on 13:07 - Feb 9 by giant_stow
Agreed. Blaming frozen food imports appears to be politically motivated and a little desperate. If they can't find a link to animals or this market after looking so hard, what else is there?
If it actually came from a wet market do you not think that the Chinese government would have made more of an effort to close or improve them.
My friend advises me that as soon as their lockdowns were lifted the markets opened again immediately with lots of furry and red things dangling on sticks.
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Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
Does anyone believe this? on 13:08 - Feb 9 by giant_stow
Interesting - that's the first time I've seen India mentioned - how's thT theory work?
It doesn't work. For the Chinese it works simply because it's somewhere that isn't Wuhan.
That is why they will push the frozen food angle. They are under the impression that what works internally as a means to obfuscate will work externally.
They are wrong of course.
SB
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Does anyone believe this? on 13:40 - Feb 9 with 2972 views
Does anyone believe this? on 13:22 - Feb 9 by StokieBlue
It doesn't work. For the Chinese it works simply because it's somewhere that isn't Wuhan.
That is why they will push the frozen food angle. They are under the impression that what works internally as a means to obfuscate will work externally.
They are wrong of course.
SB
It’s a tactic that works. The Russians do it when they assassinate people or blow up nuclear reactors (until they can hide the problem no longer), or invade countries, the Chinese the same with just about everything. Whether it’s bats, dogs, meteorites or anything else, it originated from that country end of.
In 1939 Germany claimed Poland started World War Two. The got a load of people out of jail, dressed them in polish uniforms and shot the lot in a place called Gleiwitz. Totalitarian regimes do that sort of thing. It’s no good anyone expecting a shred of truth from China.
They should be curtailed, isolated but greed tells me that’ll not happen any more than Germany will halt its Russian pipeline.
Does anyone believe this? on 12:59 - Feb 9 by Lord_Lucan
Why is the theory that it escaped from a lab unlikely when they have a bloody great lab in Wuhan where it could have come from.
I don't know why more people aren't questioning this.
Q; Where do you think the Covid virus originating in Wuhan came from
1/ The Wuhan Virology Lab
2/ A Pangolin
3/ A bat
[Post edited 9 Feb 2021 13:14]
Because virology labs are used to handling dangerous materials and have strict controls and safety measures. Not saying it's impossible for accidents to happen, but workers tend to be extra careful.
Moreover, if it were an engineered virus, traces of that would be visible. As bioweapons go, it's not that effective (doesn't readily take out fighting-age people, for a start).
Given very similar viruses are known to exist in bats and crossing species boundaries is something which happens pretty regularly*, the idea that they are the original reservoir is mot so far fetched. There may have been an intervening stage, for which the pangolin is a reasonable candidate.
* The original vaccination was Edward Jenner using Cow Pox to protect humans against Smallpox. Humans can catch H1N1 bird flu.
Does anyone believe this? on 13:54 - Feb 9 by Keno
thats Bernard Matthews, always thought he was a wrong un
I used to like Bernard Matthews Turkey burgers. They had a fetching sort of grey colour...I suspect they walked the whole Turkey into the grinder, added a bit of wood pulp and old bread, dipped in breadcrumbs and there you have it. Bootiful.
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Does anyone believe this? on 14:09 - Feb 9 with 2881 views
Does anyone believe this? on 13:41 - Feb 9 by Guthrum
Because virology labs are used to handling dangerous materials and have strict controls and safety measures. Not saying it's impossible for accidents to happen, but workers tend to be extra careful.
Moreover, if it were an engineered virus, traces of that would be visible. As bioweapons go, it's not that effective (doesn't readily take out fighting-age people, for a start).
Given very similar viruses are known to exist in bats and crossing species boundaries is something which happens pretty regularly*, the idea that they are the original reservoir is mot so far fetched. There may have been an intervening stage, for which the pangolin is a reasonable candidate.
* The original vaccination was Edward Jenner using Cow Pox to protect humans against Smallpox. Humans can catch H1N1 bird flu.
I'm not suggesting anything was done deliberately.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
Does anyone believe this? on 12:59 - Feb 9 by Lord_Lucan
Why is the theory that it escaped from a lab unlikely when they have a bloody great lab in Wuhan where it could have come from.
I don't know why more people aren't questioning this.
Q; Where do you think the Covid virus originating in Wuhan came from
1/ The Wuhan Virology Lab
2/ A Pangolin
3/ A bat
[Post edited 9 Feb 2021 13:14]
These wet markets have been going for ages, so I think its from that lab. They have been covering this up since this whole sorry hell started, and hiding evidence . I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and wish I could boycott anything made in that country but it seems to be impossible.
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Does anyone believe this? on 14:35 - Feb 9 with 2847 views
Does anyone believe this? on 13:41 - Feb 9 by Guthrum
Because virology labs are used to handling dangerous materials and have strict controls and safety measures. Not saying it's impossible for accidents to happen, but workers tend to be extra careful.
Moreover, if it were an engineered virus, traces of that would be visible. As bioweapons go, it's not that effective (doesn't readily take out fighting-age people, for a start).
Given very similar viruses are known to exist in bats and crossing species boundaries is something which happens pretty regularly*, the idea that they are the original reservoir is mot so far fetched. There may have been an intervening stage, for which the pangolin is a reasonable candidate.
* The original vaccination was Edward Jenner using Cow Pox to protect humans against Smallpox. Humans can catch H1N1 bird flu.
* Ebola
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Does anyone believe this? on 14:45 - Feb 9 with 2839 views
I don’t think it’s unlikely at all. It’s a huge coincidence that the centre for coronavirus research is in Wuhan. A maximum security bio lab with multiple safety violations.
It's clearly not highly unlikely. The WHO were and remain clearly in China's pocket. As they were last year when they praised them for the amazing response.
People can release whatever waffle they want but a lab that studies Coronaviruses being in the same town as the first outbreak of a new Coronavirus is so ludicrously coincidental it can't be just brushed to one side.
China's ridiculously defensive approach to any gentle questioning makes it feel even more likely. Chinese markets have been dealing with these animals for hundreds of years. An arbitrary mutation is possible but to me no more likely than any other explanation.
Does anyone believe this? on 16:49 - Feb 9 by tractorlad01
I don’t think it’s unlikely at all. It’s a huge coincidence that the centre for coronavirus research is in Wuhan. A maximum security bio lab with multiple safety violations.
"It will focus on the control of emerging diseases, store purified viruses and act as a World Health Organization ‘reference laboratory’ linked to similar labs around the world. “It will be a key node in the global biosafety-lab network,”
Yes very convenient that of the four theories of where the virus came from, this is the only one they have dismissed. Why not continue to look into it?
Also hear they are not out of China and not allowed to conduct any more investigations.
It is a bit like the Russians in Salisbury, the West shouts and screams but in reality what do we do? Just say a few strong words and they carry on as they were. They don't care and we cannot do anything about it.
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Does anyone believe this? on 08:19 - Feb 10 with 2496 views
Does anyone believe this? on 13:41 - Feb 9 by Guthrum
Because virology labs are used to handling dangerous materials and have strict controls and safety measures. Not saying it's impossible for accidents to happen, but workers tend to be extra careful.
Moreover, if it were an engineered virus, traces of that would be visible. As bioweapons go, it's not that effective (doesn't readily take out fighting-age people, for a start).
Given very similar viruses are known to exist in bats and crossing species boundaries is something which happens pretty regularly*, the idea that they are the original reservoir is mot so far fetched. There may have been an intervening stage, for which the pangolin is a reasonable candidate.
* The original vaccination was Edward Jenner using Cow Pox to protect humans against Smallpox. Humans can catch H1N1 bird flu.
Coincidently Guthers I just heard on the radio that the last smallpox infection and death was in the 1970's and was caught at a lab in Birmingham.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
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