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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation 10:28 - Jul 20 with 2395 viewsgiant_stow

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/20/barcelona-in-desperate-push-to-

For those who, like me, had no clue about this.

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:38 - Jul 20 with 2339 viewsfactual_blue

I remember reading some years ago that both Barcelona and Real Madrid have such eye-wateringly large debts that they won't be allowed by the Spanish authorities to go under as that would cause the collapse of the Spanish financial system.

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 with 2312 viewsgiant_stow

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:38 - Jul 20 by factual_blue

I remember reading some years ago that both Barcelona and Real Madrid have such eye-wateringly large debts that they won't be allowed by the Spanish authorities to go under as that would cause the collapse of the Spanish financial system.


Interesting. I guess its not that simple now uefa have their finacial fair play thing. Looks like Coutinho is going cheap - could do a job for the canaries as a super sub perhaps.

Maybe they're have to just not sign Messi.

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 with 2310 viewsBarcaBlue

Years of overspending on players that didn't improve the side, weren't needed and haven't performed.

Sid Lowe really is a top journo by the way, lovely writing style and knows Spanish football better than just about anyone here...and without the bias.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:48 - Jul 20 with 2286 viewsKeno

well come on Ashton there are obvious some bargain to had there!!

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:50 - Jul 20 with 2278 viewsgiant_stow

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 by BarcaBlue

Years of overspending on players that didn't improve the side, weren't needed and haven't performed.

Sid Lowe really is a top journo by the way, lovely writing style and knows Spanish football better than just about anyone here...and without the bias.


Sounds like they're in a real hole, but maybe players will play for cheap just to be part of the institution?

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:05 - Jul 20 with 2239 viewsdavblue

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 by BarcaBlue

Years of overspending on players that didn't improve the side, weren't needed and haven't performed.

Sid Lowe really is a top journo by the way, lovely writing style and knows Spanish football better than just about anyone here...and without the bias.


Spent some horrific sums on players who either haven't fitted into the style of play.

The old president done a terrible job.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:05 - Jul 20 with 2239 viewsBarcaBlue

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:50 - Jul 20 by giant_stow

Sounds like they're in a real hole, but maybe players will play for cheap just to be part of the institution?


I can't see that happening. Busquets, Pique and Alba are coming to the end of their careers so are more likely to take pay cuts, similarly Ter Steigen who is well settled in Barcelona. Others I'm sure will sit on their contracts if they can't be moved on.

Problem is now everyone is alerted to Barça's situation so they're not going to get top dollar. That in turn has knock on effects, not just for less cash coming in but the initial fee paid spread over fewer years is going to cause real accounting issues.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:06 - Jul 20 with 2233 viewsElderGrizzly

Why it is always frustrating when they moan about Man City or PSG ‘financial doping’, when that is literally what both Barca and Real Madrid have done for years
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:07 - Jul 20 with 2224 viewsGeoffSentence

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 by giant_stow

Interesting. I guess its not that simple now uefa have their finacial fair play thing. Looks like Coutinho is going cheap - could do a job for the canaries as a super sub perhaps.

Maybe they're have to just not sign Messi.


I wonder if it's that straightforward. The article mentions sponsors applying pressure. Could be that substantial sponsorship income depends on signing him.

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:11 - Jul 20 with 2216 viewsWD19

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:07 - Jul 20 by GeoffSentence

I wonder if it's that straightforward. The article mentions sponsors applying pressure. Could be that substantial sponsorship income depends on signing him.


Hasn't he already agreed to sign and take a 50% pay cut!?

Pretty much playing for the love of the club on 'only' £1m a week going forward........on a contract that guarantees him that until he is about 52 years old.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:46 - Jul 20 with 2147 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:11 - Jul 20 by WD19

Hasn't he already agreed to sign and take a 50% pay cut!?

Pretty much playing for the love of the club on 'only' £1m a week going forward........on a contract that guarantees him that until he is about 52 years old.


He’s agreed a deal but they can’t sign him - worth giving the article a read

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:56 - Jul 20 with 2112 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:50 - Jul 20 by giant_stow

Sounds like they're in a real hole, but maybe players will play for cheap just to be part of the institution?


The issues aren’t just salaries, it’s the amortisation of fees which have means their transfer activity is more about balancing the books than building the squad

It’s only touched on briefly in the article but last Summer they were in such a desperate position they had to ‘swap’ Arthur (young midfielder with 70-odd appearances for Barca in the 2 seasons prior for 30 year old Miralem Pjanic, with the latter getting a 4 year contract. Deal was structured as 2 transfers so Barca could bank the sale fee immediately, with Pjanic’s spread over 4 years

Similarly this Summer the influx of frees is to help ease that burden (as no fee to amortise) - with Barca being lucky that there’s been an unusually high number of quality options on that front this year

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 12:50 - Jul 20 with 2019 viewsBasuco

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:11 - Jul 20 by WD19

Hasn't he already agreed to sign and take a 50% pay cut!?

Pretty much playing for the love of the club on 'only' £1m a week going forward........on a contract that guarantees him that until he is about 52 years old.


20 million euro's a year after tax basic plus bonus's, down from 45 million a year basic after tax, but for 5 years to make's up the difference over a longer period. He will not exactly be looking for food parcels.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:08 - Jul 20 with 1964 viewsWeWereZombies

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:56 - Jul 20 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

The issues aren’t just salaries, it’s the amortisation of fees which have means their transfer activity is more about balancing the books than building the squad

It’s only touched on briefly in the article but last Summer they were in such a desperate position they had to ‘swap’ Arthur (young midfielder with 70-odd appearances for Barca in the 2 seasons prior for 30 year old Miralem Pjanic, with the latter getting a 4 year contract. Deal was structured as 2 transfers so Barca could bank the sale fee immediately, with Pjanic’s spread over 4 years

Similarly this Summer the influx of frees is to help ease that burden (as no fee to amortise) - with Barca being lucky that there’s been an unusually high number of quality options on that front this year


We need to sign that player right on the close of the transfer window as a gift to Phil - 'Pjanic Signing' would be just the antidote to the TWTD culture wars...

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:14 - Jul 20 with 1938 viewswkj

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 10:44 - Jul 20 by giant_stow

Interesting. I guess its not that simple now uefa have their finacial fair play thing. Looks like Coutinho is going cheap - could do a job for the canaries as a super sub perhaps.

Maybe they're have to just not sign Messi.


I don't think they can afford not to sign Messi, the article reads as though a lot of the club sponsorship rides on him being there.

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:42 - Jul 20 with 1881 viewsronnyd

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:56 - Jul 20 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

The issues aren’t just salaries, it’s the amortisation of fees which have means their transfer activity is more about balancing the books than building the squad

It’s only touched on briefly in the article but last Summer they were in such a desperate position they had to ‘swap’ Arthur (young midfielder with 70-odd appearances for Barca in the 2 seasons prior for 30 year old Miralem Pjanic, with the latter getting a 4 year contract. Deal was structured as 2 transfers so Barca could bank the sale fee immediately, with Pjanic’s spread over 4 years

Similarly this Summer the influx of frees is to help ease that burden (as no fee to amortise) - with Barca being lucky that there’s been an unusually high number of quality options on that front this year


I believe also that Phillippe Coutinho is only a handful of games away from the clause that makes them have to pay Liverpool £10.7 million for the number of appearances he's made for Barca. Probably why they can't wait to to get rid.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:44 - Jul 20 with 1866 viewshype313

Absolute mess, Madrid have equally horrific finances, but they are owned/funded by the bank Caja Madrid so they can just keep dipping into the overdraft...

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:50 - Jul 20 with 1858 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:42 - Jul 20 by ronnyd

I believe also that Phillippe Coutinho is only a handful of games away from the clause that makes them have to pay Liverpool £10.7 million for the number of appearances he's made for Barca. Probably why they can't wait to to get rid.


Yep - touched on in the article aswell

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:51 - Jul 20 with 1855 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:44 - Jul 20 by hype313

Absolute mess, Madrid have equally horrific finances, but they are owned/funded by the bank Caja Madrid so they can just keep dipping into the overdraft...


Indeed, although the issue with Barca right now is around La Liga’s version of FFP, rather than the overall club debt

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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:03 - Jul 20 with 1817 viewsronnyd

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 13:51 - Jul 20 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

Indeed, although the issue with Barca right now is around La Liga’s version of FFP, rather than the overall club debt


Don't know if it's still the case but also read a couple of years ago that the T/V money was skewed in favour of the "big two" in La Liga. Wonder if that's the case, or perhaps the levelling up has taken a big chunk of revenue away from them both.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:05 - Jul 20 with 1806 viewsTampa_Florida_Blue

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 12:50 - Jul 20 by Basuco

20 million euro's a year after tax basic plus bonus's, down from 45 million a year basic after tax, but for 5 years to make's up the difference over a longer period. He will not exactly be looking for food parcels.


I get where you are coming from regarding his pay cut. But imagine if your boss told you from here your payroll is going to be cut in half. I know it not exactly a comparison as what can some spend a million euros on a month, but he still agreed to cut his pay by 50% and ask you to carry on working at the same level. That to me is 💯 commitment.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:08 - Jul 20 with 1799 viewsJDB23

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 11:06 - Jul 20 by ElderGrizzly

Why it is always frustrating when they moan about Man City or PSG ‘financial doping’, when that is literally what both Barca and Real Madrid have done for years


Was even more cringe when Barca acted like the good guys whose entire team was academy products vs those evil pay 2 win merchants Madrid. They have always been as bad as each other.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:51 - Jul 20 with 1748 viewsBarcaBlue

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:08 - Jul 20 by JDB23

Was even more cringe when Barca acted like the good guys whose entire team was academy products vs those evil pay 2 win merchants Madrid. They have always been as bad as each other.


When did Barça field a full team of academy players? It's not something I remember.
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Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 16:21 - Jul 20 with 1680 viewsJDB23

Interesting article about Barcelona and their financial situation on 14:51 - Jul 20 by BarcaBlue

When did Barça field a full team of academy players? It's not something I remember.


They didn’t, but that was the “good guys” angle them and their fans tried to portray in the 00’s even when they had £50m+ signings all over the team.
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