| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich 17:30 - Sep 11 with 3317 views | unstableblue |
He’s seen most of our games
His view is simple …. This is psychological now, this is team confidence - his question is whether Cook has the right temperament and character to nurse the players into the right mind set. Or will he throw his toys around similar to the end of last season. |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:31 - Sep 11 with 3248 views | J2BLUE |
Why is a neutral watching most Ipswich games? |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:32 - Sep 11 with 3208 views | Ryorry |
As I said on another thread though, is it possible for players who've lost confidence under a manager, actually regain it under the same manager without any other material changes?
Do we have a sports psychologist in the house? |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:33 - Sep 11 with 3192 views | homer_123 |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:31 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
Why is a neutral watching most Ipswich games? |
Turns out he's being going to watch Colchester. |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:34 - Sep 11 with 3159 views | Garv |
Agree. Cook won't go after the players though, he's not that stupid.
Eerily similar to the Hurst era in terms of the lack of wins and psychological block. |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:34 - Sep 11 with 3138 views | Guthrum |
But there is so little continuity from the team last season, how come lack of confidence issues have carried across? |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:34 - Sep 11 with 3127 views | homer_123 |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:32 - Sep 11 by Ryorry |
As I said on another thread though, is it possible for players who've lost confidence under a manager, actually regain it under the same manager without any other material changes?
Do we have a sports psychologist in the house? |
Can we just get some competent coaches in first? | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:38 - Sep 11 with 3027 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:31 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
Why is a neutral watching most Ipswich games? |
What a stupid post, really
Family member, big football fan, lives local, supports northern team, but wants to watch live football | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:38 - Sep 11 with 3015 views | Ryorry |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:34 - Sep 11 by homer_123 |
Can we just get some competent coaches in first? |
That would be a material change.
But as others have said in different threads, nobody can force Cook to bring in an/other coach/es. | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:39 - Sep 11 with 2971 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:38 - Sep 11 by unstableblue |
What a stupid post, really
Family member, big football fan, lives local, supports northern team, but wants to watch live football |
Think that’s harsh mate. Seemed a fair question and I thought the same when I read it. |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:43 - Sep 11 with 2868 views | Swansea_Blue |
Really? Is it not just a case of being well set up and everyone delivering the game plan? You may be right, but we’ve heard all this talk about confidence before. Sometimes it’s just a case of not getting it right. (I’m playing devil’s advocate as I don’t know the answer). |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:44 - Sep 11 with 2849 views | J2BLUE |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:38 - Sep 11 by unstableblue |
What a stupid post, really
Family member, big football fan, lives local, supports northern team, but wants to watch live football |
I was only asking out of curiosity. I wasn't implying they shouldn't be there. | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:48 - Sep 11 with 2742 views | urbanblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:34 - Sep 11 by Guthrum |
But there is so little continuity from the team last season, how come lack of confidence issues have carried across? |
I don't think it's confidence as such. On an individual basis these are good players at this level, who probably thought they were bought here to be part of operation walk the league.
Now, they are realising they have to be a part of a team and it's not just a matter of being better players. They seem surprised themselves at what's happening. Cook and the coaching team have to sort this out pretty damn quick. |  | | |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:49 - Sep 11 with 2701 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:43 - Sep 11 by Swansea_Blue |
Really? Is it not just a case of being well set up and everyone delivering the game plan? You may be right, but we’ve heard all this talk about confidence before. Sometimes it’s just a case of not getting it right. (I’m playing devil’s advocate as I don’t know the answer). |
As I’ve been boring everyone with this, but we’ll be better by three factors:
Better players - we have that
Desire, energy and head space to want it more - this is where our confidence is shot to pieces
System and technical set-up - this is where I’m getting concerned with cool; Bolton had a system and shape today that exploited us | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:52 - Sep 11 with 2585 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:44 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
I was only asking out of curiosity. I wasn't implying they shouldn't be there. |
Apologies J2 got wrong end of stick
Upset after today | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:55 - Sep 11 with 2479 views | J2BLUE |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:52 - Sep 11 by unstableblue |
Apologies J2 got wrong end of stick
Upset after today |
No problem.
We all are. The false hope just kills you doesn't it? | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:59 - Sep 11 with 2402 views | Darth_Koont |
I think there’s some truth in that.
But equally I think we have an attacking front 4 who are leaving a lot of work and space to cover for Harper and Evans who are looking overwhelmed. And who in any case aren’t really defensive players who stop attacks.
That openness in the middle of the pitch then translates to a back 4 covering in too many directions and being pulled out of position/leaving gaps as a result.
We need to get more solid as a team and I think we’ll build the confidence after that. So it’s more Cook’s tactical approach that’s needed even if he also needs to be a good man-manager right now. |  |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 18:02 - Sep 11 with 2339 views | Ryorry |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:59 - Sep 11 by Darth_Koont |
I think there’s some truth in that.
But equally I think we have an attacking front 4 who are leaving a lot of work and space to cover for Harper and Evans who are looking overwhelmed. And who in any case aren’t really defensive players who stop attacks.
That openness in the middle of the pitch then translates to a back 4 covering in too many directions and being pulled out of position/leaving gaps as a result.
We need to get more solid as a team and I think we’ll build the confidence after that. So it’s more Cook’s tactical approach that’s needed even if he also needs to be a good man-manager right now. |
Good to see a balanced analysis, thank you 👠| |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 18:15 - Sep 11 with 2161 views | Romeo4 |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:59 - Sep 11 by Darth_Koont |
I think there’s some truth in that.
But equally I think we have an attacking front 4 who are leaving a lot of work and space to cover for Harper and Evans who are looking overwhelmed. And who in any case aren’t really defensive players who stop attacks.
That openness in the middle of the pitch then translates to a back 4 covering in too many directions and being pulled out of position/leaving gaps as a result.
We need to get more solid as a team and I think we’ll build the confidence after that. So it’s more Cook’s tactical approach that’s needed even if he also needs to be a good man-manager right now. |
That’s an excellent summary of what is wrong with us at the moment. The room in behind our front 4 is alarming. The opposing deep lying midfielder is afforded too much space and is allowed to dictate play. The opposition run onto us with so much momentum from deep that Harper and Evans get overwhelmed and their shield is rendered ineffective.
Not sure if it’s shape or personnel. Probably a combination of the two. He might not be the silver bullet we’re hoping for but Morsy will certainly help. He’ll be more effective at spoiling opposition’s attacks and will hopefully drive up standards with his attitude.
More patience is required. Although that is becoming increasingly difficult! |  | | |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 18:58 - Sep 11 with 1894 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Edited due to unnecessarily tw@ttishness. [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 22:55]
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| Good man (n/t) on 19:00 - Sep 11 with 1877 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 18:58 - Sep 11 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Edited due to unnecessarily tw@ttishness. [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 22:55]
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 19:04 - Sep 11 with 1826 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:55 - Sep 11 by J2BLUE |
No problem.
We all are. The false hope just kills you doesn't it? |
It really does kill you J2, I’m really losing the faith
And I was thinking I was being over sensitive with your post and then you see some massive d!ck at the top of this post, posting b@ll@x | |
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 19:31 - Sep 11 with 1664 views | brushhand |
why would you lose confidence by going 1-0 up? |  | | |
| Good point on 21:40 - Sep 11 with 1305 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 19:31 - Sep 11 by brushhand |
why would you lose confidence by going 1-0 up? |
You’d think that scoring first would settle the team
But we are a mess confidence wise - glass jaw
Reason I mentioned neutral comment in car on way home was simply to get us out of this if going to take a mind set change… period.. not just gelling in these new players and Cook finally pricing he had a system that works [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 21:43]
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| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 21:48 - Sep 11 with 1241 views | unstableblue |
| Thought from a neutral I went with on today and Ipswich on 17:59 - Sep 11 by Darth_Koont |
I think there’s some truth in that.
But equally I think we have an attacking front 4 who are leaving a lot of work and space to cover for Harper and Evans who are looking overwhelmed. And who in any case aren’t really defensive players who stop attacks.
That openness in the middle of the pitch then translates to a back 4 covering in too many directions and being pulled out of position/leaving gaps as a result.
We need to get more solid as a team and I think we’ll build the confidence after that. So it’s more Cook’s tactical approach that’s needed even if he also needs to be a good man-manager right now. |
Tactically and technically Bolton were better than us today without a doubt
Agree Dart some of the space between deep midefield and defence was completely unacceptable
And needs sorting
Some of that is training and technical drill… but it’s also the Harper and Evans and so many more players WANTING it and not being inside their shells
They were both paying at 50% today…. That’s psychological… and I’m afraid it’s spreading to the rest of the team
Cook need to set them up tactically and mentally | |
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