| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:35 - Jan 25 with 1593 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
Scandalous that they have dragged their heels for this long.. |  | |  |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:36 - Jan 25 with 1581 views | bluelagos |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:35 - Jan 25 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
Scandalous that they have dragged their heels for this long.. |
Absolutely. Fingers crossed they do the necessary in a speedy fashion and this circus can be brought to it's conclusion asap. |  |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:41 - Jan 25 with 1549 views | XYZ |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:36 - Jan 25 by bluelagos |
Absolutely. Fingers crossed they do the necessary in a speedy fashion and this circus can be brought to it's conclusion asap. |
They'll find a technicality to let them off on.
That's Sue Gray's report on the back-burner now, presumably.
The Met will string this out for months. |  | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:42 - Jan 25 with 1539 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:36 - Jan 25 by bluelagos |
Absolutely. Fingers crossed they do the necessary in a speedy fashion and this circus can be brought to it's conclusion asap. |
I’d like to think that the lowly police officers allocated this investigation will be more than happy to stick the boot in… The issue will be if the senior management decide to take an interest
Should never have taken this long. It is always in the public interest to investigate | | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:44 - Jan 25 with 1505 views | WeWereZombies |
In fairness to him he has had a haircut recently, thereby making it easier to get his collar felt... |  |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:46 - Jan 25 with 1498 views | Guthrum |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:41 - Jan 25 by XYZ |
They'll find a technicality to let them off on.
That's Sue Gray's report on the back-burner now, presumably.
The Met will string this out for months. |
Ah yes, kick the Gray Report down the road!
Explains why they were so keen to wait for it. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 10:50]
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:49 - Jan 25 with 1478 views | bluelagos |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:42 - Jan 25 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I’d like to think that the lowly police officers allocated this investigation will be more than happy to stick the boot in… The issue will be if the senior management decide to take an interest
Should never have taken this long. It is always in the public interest to investigate |
There is a real potential conflict of interest here too, given the parties were happening under the noses of the police and they didn't intervene at the time.
Hopefully that conflict won't stop them doing a through job now. And hopefully they don't hang some ordinary coppers out to dry, especially if they did raise concerns at the time. | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:52 - Jan 25 with 1454 views | gordon |
Think next it'll be agreed that the met police and Sue Gray will need to wait for a judge-led inquiry to fully investigate the parties. |  | | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:55 - Jan 25 with 1430 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:49 - Jan 25 by bluelagos |
There is a real potential conflict of interest here too, given the parties were happening under the noses of the police and they didn't intervene at the time.
Hopefully that conflict won't stop them doing a through job now. And hopefully they don't hang some ordinary coppers out to dry, especially if they did raise concerns at the time. |
I’d heard previously that police are treated like 5h!t by politicians around Downing Street. It does beg the question as to how that could be allowed to happen unchecked for any length of time.
Police are servants to the crown, not to anyone else | | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:58 - Jan 25 with 1410 views | giant_stow |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:49 - Jan 25 by bluelagos |
There is a real potential conflict of interest here too, given the parties were happening under the noses of the police and they didn't intervene at the time.
Hopefully that conflict won't stop them doing a through job now. And hopefully they don't hang some ordinary coppers out to dry, especially if they did raise concerns at the time. |
From that Telegraph story (the he won;t be their by the end of the week one)on the downing street coppers being interviewed, it sounded like those fellas were more than happy to speak up, in contrast to Dick. Obviously just hearsay, but I don;t see why that paper would put that spin on it, as it doesn't appear to know what outcome it wants. |  |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:06 - Jan 25 with 1342 views | bluelagos |
C'mon Chico - you're often quick to tell people to focus on the real issues. The Derbyshire police made a couple of genuinely stupid calls during lockdown. These were highlighted at the time - I think they even apologised at the time for that one particular incident.
The issues at hand are way way bigger. The Met police may have to explain why they were slow to investigate and why action wasn't taken at the time - those are fair questions. But worrying about a couple of fine happy idiot coppers in Derbyshire really isn't the issue here. | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:10 - Jan 25 with 1309 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 10:41 - Jan 25 by XYZ |
They'll find a technicality to let them off on.
That's Sue Gray's report on the back-burner now, presumably.
The Met will string this out for months. |
Yes, just confirmed Sue Gray report is delayed until the Met investigation is concluded.
Some commentators saying that is 3 months+ |  | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:11 - Jan 25 with 1312 views | GlasgowBlue |
Worst thing that could have happened. Now the Su Gray report won't be released this week and word was there was enough in it to nail Johnson. |  |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:14 - Jan 25 with 1288 views | bluelagos |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:11 - Jan 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Worst thing that could have happened. Now the Su Gray report won't be released this week and word was there was enough in it to nail Johnson. |
So the Tory MPs will now know there is (in Sue Gray's opinion and the Met Police) evidence of criminality.
If that's not enough for them to trigger a VoNC and get rid, so be it. All those saying they would wait for the report - well now it is crystal clear the report would contain evidence that in her opinion laws were broken. In fact there is so much evidence it's been passed to the Met. | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:16 - Jan 25 with 1272 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:14 - Jan 25 by bluelagos |
So the Tory MPs will now know there is (in Sue Gray's opinion and the Met Police) evidence of criminality.
If that's not enough for them to trigger a VoNC and get rid, so be it. All those saying they would wait for the report - well now it is crystal clear the report would contain evidence that in her opinion laws were broken. In fact there is so much evidence it's been passed to the Met. |
I'm 50:50 as to whether kicking this down the road helps him.
It delays the inevitable is where i've ended up, but it also allows other elements of the news cycle to take over in the short-term.
Of course, Johnson being questioned under caution would amuse greatly | | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:25 - Jan 25 with 1238 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:16 - Jan 25 by ElderGrizzly |
I'm 50:50 as to whether kicking this down the road helps him.
It delays the inevitable is where i've ended up, but it also allows other elements of the news cycle to take over in the short-term.
Of course, Johnson being questioned under caution would amuse greatly |
His Premiership will suffer a slow and painful death over months rather than a quick kill this week.
Good for the opposition. Bad for the country imo. | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:29 - Jan 25 with 1206 views | StokieBlue |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:10 - Jan 25 by ElderGrizzly |
Yes, just confirmed Sue Gray report is delayed until the Met investigation is concluded.
Some commentators saying that is 3 months+ |
This is a total joke, it's essentially abandoning the country to a lame duck PM for the next 3 months.
He needs to go now, I'd prefer he didn't get a fine and they didn't investigate and he just went now.
Why on earth will it take 3 months to decide if he needs to be find 100 GBP? That's utterly ridiculous.
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:33 - Jan 25 with 1150 views | tonybied |
What are the odds of this investigation by the met taking until after the May elections. In that time the media will have got bored of this story and it will be mostly forgotten about causing less damage to conservative candidates in these elections. Then I expect the police to bring no charges at which point Sue Gray's report will be released under the radar.
Not that I'm saying that this is just another form of corruption at all! [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 11:35]
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:36 - Jan 25 with 1116 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:29 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue |
This is a total joke, it's essentially abandoning the country to a lame duck PM for the next 3 months.
He needs to go now, I'd prefer he didn't get a fine and they didn't investigate and he just went now.
Why on earth will it take 3 months to decide if he needs to be find 100 GBP? That's utterly ridiculous.
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It might not take 3 months, just reporting what some political commentators were saying.
I'd imagine they will need to go through all the evidence themselves and not simply ask Sue Gray for hers to ensure due process is followed.
And because of who it is, it's going to take a while to ensure every i is dotted and t is crossed.
It is ludicrous it has taken the Met a month to decide to take action, as there really isn't anything new here | | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:37 - Jan 25 with 1106 views | Plums |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:11 - Jan 25 by GlasgowBlue |
Worst thing that could have happened. Now the Su Gray report won't be released this week and word was there was enough in it to nail Johnson. |
Which means the Tories get to hang the inevitable May election bloodbath on Johnson and they come out with a clean bill of health ready to fight again.
Sickening abuse of parliament, democracy, the civil service and now the police.
Where’s my pitchfork? |  |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:38 - Jan 25 with 1095 views | StokieBlue |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:36 - Jan 25 by ElderGrizzly |
It might not take 3 months, just reporting what some political commentators were saying.
I'd imagine they will need to go through all the evidence themselves and not simply ask Sue Gray for hers to ensure due process is followed.
And because of who it is, it's going to take a while to ensure every i is dotted and t is crossed.
It is ludicrous it has taken the Met a month to decide to take action, as there really isn't anything new here |
Why does the person matter?
If I was having a party I would have got an instant spot fine - it's exactly the same here. They don't require the level of evidence needed for an airtight murder investigation - it's a spot fine.
It didn't take Sue Gray 3 months, it shouldn't take the Met anything like that either.
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:40 - Jan 25 with 1087 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:38 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue |
Why does the person matter?
If I was having a party I would have got an instant spot fine - it's exactly the same here. They don't require the level of evidence needed for an airtight murder investigation - it's a spot fine.
It didn't take Sue Gray 3 months, it shouldn't take the Met anything like that either.
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It shouldn't matter. Of course it will though.
Hopefully he has the moral compass to resign within the next 48 hours or this is the tipping point for the 54 letters to appear. | | | |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:42 - Jan 25 with 1073 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:38 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue |
Why does the person matter?
If I was having a party I would have got an instant spot fine - it's exactly the same here. They don't require the level of evidence needed for an airtight murder investigation - it's a spot fine.
It didn't take Sue Gray 3 months, it shouldn't take the Met anything like that either.
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Of course it matters who he is.
If you, I or Joe Bloggs were caught having a party then we would have got a spot fine. If we hadn't been caught at the time, then there is no way that the police would waste their te investigating us nearly two years later. Wouldn't happen. | |
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| Police now investigating No 10 on 11:44 - Jan 25 with 1059 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
I can only see that the time frame of 3 months has been suggested as if the fine is given, but is contested a file must be sent to the CPS for them to make the decision.. and decide if it should be heard in front of a court..
Getting a court date is rarer than rocking horse 5h!t and I very much doubt any politician is going to just accept any wrongdoing and pay the fine.
The evidence would probably allow fines to be handed out within a couple of weeks, but a final outcome may go on for months and months if those involved plead innocence/ignorance | | | |
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