| Actually feel sick 15:49 - Feb 27 with 3791 views | blueasfook |
The situation with Russia is escalating rapidly. I'm convinced Putin has lost the plot and is out of control.
He needs to be reigned in from within. But who has the balls among the yes men that surround him? I also feel he is painting himself into a corner and is going down a road from which there is no coming back.
Let's hope the talks go well this afternoon! |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 15:54 - Feb 27 with 3329 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
Chances of the Russian military/security services taking him out themselves? |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 15:57 - Feb 27 with 3305 views | Edmundo |
| Actually feel sick on 15:54 - Feb 27 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Chances of the Russian military/security services taking him out themselves? |
More likely the military, as he is ex KGB, so security services are not going to touch him. Needs the popular opinion too though, so people on the street need to be brave. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 16:00 - Feb 27 with 3260 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Actually feel sick on 15:57 - Feb 27 by Edmundo |
More likely the military, as he is ex KGB, so security services are not going to touch him. Needs the popular opinion too though, so people on the street need to be brave. |
Whoever does it, I'd like to imagine it's a much more likely scenario than things 'going all the way'. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 16:01 - Feb 27 with 3254 views | blueasfook |
| Actually feel sick on 15:57 - Feb 27 by Edmundo |
More likely the military, as he is ex KGB, so security services are not going to touch him. Needs the popular opinion too though, so people on the street need to be brave. |
I think that's the best chance for regime change in Russia. The people themselves need to rise up en masse and force a change in leadership. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 16:54 - Feb 27 with 3042 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Actually feel sick on 15:57 - Feb 27 by Edmundo |
More likely the military, as he is ex KGB, so security services are not going to touch him. Needs the popular opinion too though, so people on the street need to be brave. |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:17 - Feb 27 with 2713 views | Guthrum |
To be fair, what Putin actually said was he was putting Russian nuclear forces into a defensive alert posture. There was some mistranslation, initially.
For that matter, nuclear deterrant forces (ours as well as theirs) are on alert permanently anyway. It's the nature of the beast. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:23 - Feb 27 with 2671 views | Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, he’s coming across as completely unhinged and not the scheming, cool operator people thought he was. It’s looking like this has backfired for him. Having not crushed Ukraine immediately I don’t see how he can now save face. I’ve no idea if he’s mad enough to press the button, but a cornered rat and all that…
Hopefully it’s just posturing, but most people began by thinking amassing troops on the Ukraine border was just posturing. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:24 - Feb 27 with 2665 views | giant_stow |
| Actually feel sick on 19:17 - Feb 27 by Guthrum |
To be fair, what Putin actually said was he was putting Russian nuclear forces into a defensive alert posture. There was some mistranslation, initially.
For that matter, nuclear deterrant forces (ours as well as theirs) are on alert permanently anyway. It's the nature of the beast. |
Seeing as you're knocking around, a question: Roughly how many Nuclear blasts could the world withstand before a nuclear winter became inevitable? |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:24 - Feb 27 with 2660 views | jeera |
| Actually feel sick on 19:17 - Feb 27 by Guthrum |
To be fair, what Putin actually said was he was putting Russian nuclear forces into a defensive alert posture. There was some mistranslation, initially.
For that matter, nuclear deterrant forces (ours as well as theirs) are on alert permanently anyway. It's the nature of the beast. |
Yes of course but he knew exactly what effect his words would have.
It's the same games, say one thing but suggest another, leaving as many translations available as possible. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:37 - Feb 27 with 2572 views | Guthrum |
| Actually feel sick on 19:24 - Feb 27 by giant_stow |
Seeing as you're knocking around, a question: Roughly how many Nuclear blasts could the world withstand before a nuclear winter became inevitable? |
Nobody knows. More than a handful over the space of a few weeks (c.f. some of the atmospheric test programmes of the 1940s, '50s and '60s. But certainly an all-out exchange between the superpowers (hundreds or thousands of warheads in a matter of hours) would be enough. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:42 - Feb 27 with 2515 views | Guthrum |
| Actually feel sick on 19:23 - Feb 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, he’s coming across as completely unhinged and not the scheming, cool operator people thought he was. It’s looking like this has backfired for him. Having not crushed Ukraine immediately I don’t see how he can now save face. I’ve no idea if he’s mad enough to press the button, but a cornered rat and all that…
Hopefully it’s just posturing, but most people began by thinking amassing troops on the Ukraine border was just posturing. |
Putin isn't really cornered and can save face by claiming to have completed the "peacekeeping operation" he always said it was. Especially if the Ukrainians commit to some form of neutrality (e.g. agreeing not to join NATO).
His domestic reputation is of vastly more importance than what the Western public (or even leaders) think. Thus he can cover himself in bullsh1t and get away with it. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:43 - Feb 27 with 2502 views | giant_stow |
| Actually feel sick on 19:37 - Feb 27 by Guthrum |
Nobody knows. More than a handful over the space of a few weeks (c.f. some of the atmospheric test programmes of the 1940s, '50s and '60s. But certainly an all-out exchange between the superpowers (hundreds or thousands of warheads in a matter of hours) would be enough. |
cheers mr. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:44 - Feb 27 with 2485 views | eastangliaisblue |
| Actually feel sick on 19:24 - Feb 27 by giant_stow |
Seeing as you're knocking around, a question: Roughly how many Nuclear blasts could the world withstand before a nuclear winter became inevitable? |
Best chance to survive any of this, is to emigrate to the Southern Hemisphere. All nuclear powers are in the Northern Hemisphere, so chances are all nukes would be dropped in the north. Would also give better odds to get through the 10 years or so of a nuclear winter. I'd say New Zealand would be the best place. |  | | |
| Actually feel sick on 19:45 - Feb 27 with 2472 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Actually feel sick on 19:23 - Feb 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, he’s coming across as completely unhinged and not the scheming, cool operator people thought he was. It’s looking like this has backfired for him. Having not crushed Ukraine immediately I don’t see how he can now save face. I’ve no idea if he’s mad enough to press the button, but a cornered rat and all that…
Hopefully it’s just posturing, but most people began by thinking amassing troops on the Ukraine border was just posturing. |
There is plenty more nastiness to be unleashed between what has happened so far and any nuclear concerns.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-convoy-ground-forces-fuel-tanks-mov |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:49 - Feb 27 with 2425 views | jeera |
| Actually feel sick on 19:37 - Feb 27 by Guthrum |
Nobody knows. More than a handful over the space of a few weeks (c.f. some of the atmospheric test programmes of the 1940s, '50s and '60s. But certainly an all-out exchange between the superpowers (hundreds or thousands of warheads in a matter of hours) would be enough. |
Something in the region of 2,500 warheads I think I heard on the TV earlier.
That's just Russia's stock. | |
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| Actually feel sick on 19:57 - Feb 27 with 2339 views | belgablue |
This pic / story looks awful. A military convoy over 3km heading towards Kiev. Really sends a shudder down the spine. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 20:07 - Feb 27 with 2286 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Actually feel sick on 19:23 - Feb 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, he’s coming across as completely unhinged and not the scheming, cool operator people thought he was. It’s looking like this has backfired for him. Having not crushed Ukraine immediately I don’t see how he can now save face. I’ve no idea if he’s mad enough to press the button, but a cornered rat and all that…
Hopefully it’s just posturing, but most people began by thinking amassing troops on the Ukraine border was just posturing. |
Putin has a real problem, in that there is no way he can occupy and pacify Ukraine. The only way he wins is if Ukraine surrenders, and even that would require some kind of occupying force and longterm guerilla warfare.. You wouldn't fancy being one of the occupying troops...
It is fascinating that Germany and,Sweden are to supply arms for the first time since ww2 and 1939 respectively also that the EU is looking to provide a vast amount of military hardware.
Will this drag on or escalate horribly? |  | | |
| Actually feel sick on 20:17 - Feb 27 with 2229 views | Melford |
He's got the same grip that Stalin had, if anyone in that inner circle publicly denounced him they would be checking everything they ate or drank for the rest of the lives in case of the Polonium surprise.
I think there must be a couple who think he's lost it but they'd rather stay alive with their families intact than rock the boat, it's not like leaving your ministerial position and having a pop at Boris before you go to the back benches. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 20:23 - Feb 27 with 2206 views | Trequartista |
| Actually feel sick on 19:17 - Feb 27 by Guthrum |
To be fair, what Putin actually said was he was putting Russian nuclear forces into a defensive alert posture. There was some mistranslation, initially.
For that matter, nuclear deterrant forces (ours as well as theirs) are on alert permanently anyway. It's the nature of the beast. |
But every attack he has made has been "defensive" according to him. I don't trust that to mean a retaliatory strike. |  |
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| Actually feel sick on 20:24 - Feb 27 with 2198 views | eastangliaisblue |
That's well and truly fecked my plans up. [Post edited 27 Feb 2022 20:25]
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| Actually feel sick on 20:25 - Feb 27 with 2184 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Actually feel sick on 15:57 - Feb 27 by Edmundo |
More likely the military, as he is ex KGB, so security services are not going to touch him. Needs the popular opinion too though, so people on the street need to be brave. |
69 year old men with a history of steroid abuse are at risk of heart attack of course… |  | | |
| Actually feel sick on 20:39 - Feb 27 with 2085 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Actually feel sick on 19:57 - Feb 27 by belgablue |
This pic / story looks awful. A military convoy over 3km heading towards Kiev. Really sends a shudder down the spine. |
Even worse....5km (3.5 miles). | |
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| Actually feel sick on 21:03 - Feb 27 with 1939 views | belgablue |
| Actually feel sick on 20:39 - Feb 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Even worse....5km (3.5 miles). |
Frightening | |
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| Actually feel sick on 22:18 - Feb 27 with 1745 views | Guthrum |
| Actually feel sick on 20:25 - Feb 27 by ElderGrizzly |
69 year old men with a history of steroid abuse are at risk of heart attack of course… |
I reckon he'll go on a nice Black Sea holiday and decide to retire. | |
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