| Yellow card for simulation 15:04 - Mar 31 with 2086 views | SitfcB |
To the cyclist. Gone down way too easy, Jeff.
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| Yellow card for simulation on 15:11 - Mar 31 with 1824 views | Ewan_Oozami |
There was an L-plate on the back of that Land Rover, suspect it wasn't the learner who was driving! |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 15:33 - Mar 31 with 1752 views | Illinoisblue |
VAR has taken a look. No contact at all. Decision overturned. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 15:36 - Mar 31 with 1738 views | Steve_M |
What about this one?
Do check the replies too. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 15:38 - Mar 31 with 1719 views | BiGDonnie |
Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Silly cyclists. Shame no contact was made  |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 15:59 - Mar 31 with 1682 views | MattinLondon |
Classic case of going down after anticipating contact. Micheal Owen will try and say she had a right to go down but I’m not buying that. |  | | |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:23 - Mar 31 with 1647 views | homer_123 |
Is that driving without due care and attention then? Really?
How much wider could the Land Rover go? Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then? |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 16:42 - Mar 31 with 1598 views | GeoffSentence |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:23 - Mar 31 by homer_123 |
Is that driving without due care and attention then? Really?
How much wider could the Land Rover go? Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then? |
You are supposed to slow down, rather than just whizz blithely by. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 16:47 - Mar 31 with 1577 views | homer_123 |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:42 - Mar 31 by GeoffSentence |
You are supposed to slow down, rather than just whizz blithely by. |
Hmm - did they whizz blithely by though? Genuine question - seemed to me they moved over, albeit didn't fully slow down. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 16:54 - Mar 31 with 1553 views | bluelagos |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:23 - Mar 31 by homer_123 |
Is that driving without due care and attention then? Really?
How much wider could the Land Rover go? Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then? |
"Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then?"
If it's not safe, yes.
For me the cyclists didn't help themselves by pulling over. I'd have (and do) sat in the middle of the lane until the car had slowed to a reasonable speed.
Whether that's assertive or aggressive depends on your opinion/view. But irrespective, it's safer than what we saw happen here. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 17:08 - Mar 31 with 1521 views | LeoMuff |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:23 - Mar 31 by homer_123 |
Is that driving without due care and attention then? Really?
How much wider could the Land Rover go? Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then? |
Really ? just slow or stop to let the cyclists pass, losing you about 3 seconds of time |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 20:57 - Mar 31 with 1338 views | Pendejo |
No physical contact maybe but how much wind buffeting, or aerodynamic disturbance as the landy passed?I
Wonder if the landy driver would have behaved differently for horse riders?
I like to think of myself as a considerate driver, so would have at least slowed down.
However that fall is at least contributed to by clipping shoes into peddles and not being able to unclip quick enough. Though the nasty minded side of me thinks helmet cam took her out. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 21:14 - Mar 31 with 1299 views | LeoMuff |
| Yellow card for simulation on 20:57 - Mar 31 by Pendejo |
No physical contact maybe but how much wind buffeting, or aerodynamic disturbance as the landy passed?I
Wonder if the landy driver would have behaved differently for horse riders?
I like to think of myself as a considerate driver, so would have at least slowed down.
However that fall is at least contributed to by clipping shoes into peddles and not being able to unclip quick enough. Though the nasty minded side of me thinks helmet cam took her out. |
Thing is if she normally unclips with her right leg it’s going to be tricky with no room and the Landy idiot barrelling past, might of been what tipped her over. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 21:16 - Mar 31 with 1286 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Yellow card for simulation on 16:54 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
"Are you supposed to completely stop as a car then?"
If it's not safe, yes.
For me the cyclists didn't help themselves by pulling over. I'd have (and do) sat in the middle of the lane until the car had slowed to a reasonable speed.
Whether that's assertive or aggressive depends on your opinion/view. But irrespective, it's safer than what we saw happen here. |
It looked to me like the one infront of the lass who fell off was wider, but had to pull back in otherwise they’d have been taken out by the Landy, and then he slowed right down to avoid running into the one infront. That’s what it looked like to me anyway. The rest was just down to the laws of gravity, losing momentum and clip in peddles.
Absolutely you have to stop as a driver if it’s not safe. Scary that it’s even a question. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 21:23 - Mar 31 with 1272 views | Pendejo |
| Yellow card for simulation on 21:14 - Mar 31 by LeoMuff |
Thing is if she normally unclips with her right leg it’s going to be tricky with no room and the Landy idiot barrelling past, might of been what tipped her over. |
The other mismanaged it just fine | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 22:16 - Mar 31 with 1219 views | Vic |
My question is why the rider in the middle fell over! They weren’t touched by the Landy so it must have been that thier feet were stuck on the peddles so they couldn’t put thier foot down.
Landy maybe should have slowed down a bit more, but surely it was not responsible for the rider taking a wad dive into the ditch! [Post edited 31 Mar 2022 22:17]
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| Yellow card for simulation on 22:26 - Mar 31 with 1193 views | jeera |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:16 - Mar 31 by Vic |
My question is why the rider in the middle fell over! They weren’t touched by the Landy so it must have been that thier feet were stuck on the peddles so they couldn’t put thier foot down.
Landy maybe should have slowed down a bit more, but surely it was not responsible for the rider taking a wad dive into the ditch! [Post edited 31 Mar 2022 22:17]
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Panicked didn't she, simple as that. But the driver has an attitude problem if they couldn't see they needed to be crawling past in such a narrow space.
Even as a non-cycling fan I slow right down for the lycra-wearing freaks because it's in my nature to be nice, even to them.
I slow down for horses, not for their riders, but because I like and respect horses.
It's not hard to gear change down and dab the brakes for a few moments. |  |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 22:32 - Mar 31 with 1186 views | Vic |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:26 - Mar 31 by jeera |
Panicked didn't she, simple as that. But the driver has an attitude problem if they couldn't see they needed to be crawling past in such a narrow space.
Even as a non-cycling fan I slow right down for the lycra-wearing freaks because it's in my nature to be nice, even to them.
I slow down for horses, not for their riders, but because I like and respect horses.
It's not hard to gear change down and dab the brakes for a few moments. |
Agreed. But they can’t complain that the Landy put her in the ditch! Shouldn’t be riding if she can’t put her foot down. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 22:35 - Mar 31 with 1179 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:26 - Mar 31 by jeera |
Panicked didn't she, simple as that. But the driver has an attitude problem if they couldn't see they needed to be crawling past in such a narrow space.
Even as a non-cycling fan I slow right down for the lycra-wearing freaks because it's in my nature to be nice, even to them.
I slow down for horses, not for their riders, but because I like and respect horses.
It's not hard to gear change down and dab the brakes for a few moments. |
She was clipped in. Once you slow to a near stop you’re donald ducked unless you’ve already clipped out. I’ve been there plenty of times. She did give a mighty impressive squeal though! | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 22:39 - Mar 31 with 1176 views | jeera |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:35 - Mar 31 by Swansea_Blue |
She was clipped in. Once you slow to a near stop you’re donald ducked unless you’ve already clipped out. I’ve been there plenty of times. She did give a mighty impressive squeal though! |
I don't understand clipping in.
It seems an unnecessary danger to me on roads.
Sure, in a competition environment, but cannot see how it's legal on public roads. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 23:46 - Mar 31 with 1112 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:39 - Mar 31 by jeera |
I don't understand clipping in.
It seems an unnecessary danger to me on roads.
Sure, in a competition environment, but cannot see how it's legal on public roads. |
It makes for much better peddling, but yes it’s hardly essential. I do wonder sometimes, as I’m not the best at it. I’m not convinced risking broken teeth from a head plant is worth a 5% increase in peddling efficiency!
Buh I draw the line at shaving my legs. There are limits. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 23:54 - Mar 31 with 1093 views | jeera |
| Yellow card for simulation on 23:46 - Mar 31 by Swansea_Blue |
It makes for much better peddling, but yes it’s hardly essential. I do wonder sometimes, as I’m not the best at it. I’m not convinced risking broken teeth from a head plant is worth a 5% increase in peddling efficiency!
Buh I draw the line at shaving my legs. There are limits. |
But how can they be safe?
You have to stop the bike for whatever reason and you have to unclip quickly or you end up with a grazed arm like Lagos's.
Seriously, if you're gonna fall sideways, how do you know it's going to be kerbside and not under a truck? | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 08:15 - Apr 1 with 978 views | bluelagos |
| Yellow card for simulation on 23:54 - Mar 31 by jeera |
But how can they be safe?
You have to stop the bike for whatever reason and you have to unclip quickly or you end up with a grazed arm like Lagos's.
Seriously, if you're gonna fall sideways, how do you know it's going to be kerbside and not under a truck? |
Er, point of order - my grazed arm was a result of a lowside when I hit a load of gravel on a bend at the bottom of a hill during a downhill persuit* with a mate.
For us top end athletes it comes with the territory :-)
"I may be slightly exaggerating the speed / circumstances - but I was moving rather than simply falling over due to being clipped in - on that occasion.
Agree with you that a sideways fall due to clips could put into the traffic. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 08:26 - Apr 1 with 955 views | GeoffSentence |
| Yellow card for simulation on 22:39 - Mar 31 by jeera |
I don't understand clipping in.
It seems an unnecessary danger to me on roads.
Sure, in a competition environment, but cannot see how it's legal on public roads. |
I'm with you on this.
Except in competition clips make no sense, even in competition there is little, if any, evidence that they improve performance.
I am pretty sure that clips contribute to red light running as well, because clipped in cyclists dont want to stop and clip out at lights. | |
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| Yellow card for simulation on 08:46 - Apr 1 with 933 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
The Land Rover was nearer to the front cyclist than the woman in the middle. She's panicked and gone down because her foot's stuck in the pedal. Land Rover might've been a tad fast but he was nowhere near her so I'm amazed they got done for careless driving. |  |
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