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On Netflix. Facking hell. We all know the story and the depravity but he wasn’t even trying to hide his filthy ways.
On TV being interviewed by Harry Secombe saying about his work at Leeds Hosptial, “I help the lads and when nobody’s watching I help the lasses too”. Laughter from Harry.
On a different show with (who else) Gary Glitter who asks Jimmy if he’s aware of his reputation. Jimmy laughs and says “we’ve got some bean bags ready for you” as Glitter says he’s scanning the audience looking for girls.
Noncing in plain sight on national TV. Quite extraordinary.
Watched this over the last couple of days, seeing footage from when he was a "star" he basically admitted he was up to no good in plain sight. Frankly terrifying how long he got away with it.
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:07 - Apr 8 with 4159 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 16:23 - Apr 8 by vilanovablue
Watched this over the last couple of days, seeing footage from when he was a "star" he basically admitted he was up to no good in plain sight. Frankly terrifying how long he got away with it.
The Friday Morning Club probably helped. Regular drinks with Yorkshire police top brass and friendly journalists are always helpful for a cover-up. Being mates with Thatcher and royalty no hinderance either.
And still the dimwitted folk of Leeds turned up in their thousands for his funeral.
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:07 - Apr 8 by Illinoisblue
The Friday Morning Club probably helped. Regular drinks with Yorkshire police top brass and friendly journalists are always helpful for a cover-up. Being mates with Thatcher and royalty no hinderance either.
And still the dimwitted folk of Leeds turned up in their thousands for his funeral.
I expect those coppers hanging out with him were Just Bad Apples.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
It is my firm belief that there were people in senior positions involved in this and that is why Saville managed to get away with it until after his death. The 60's may have been a time of so called Free Love and we know many pop stars and the like were followed everywhere by groupies. Many who were looking for sex with these stars. But that doesn't in anyway excuse these celebrities such as Saville, Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris from taking advantage of their status. More seriously perhaps in the case of Saville taking advantage of women suffering various disabilities. To do what he did must have been supervised by others as he had keys to buildings at Stoke Mandevill Hospital. Many people complained and were pushed to one side being told to keep quite. Again I believe this was partly due to his status and partly due to associates with shall we say similar inclinations. Once Saville departed this mortal coil whoever covered up for him knew that they wouldn't be dragged into any investigation if Saville had been arrested before his death and Spilled The Beans.
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:22 - Apr 8 with 4102 views
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:24 - Apr 8 with 4086 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:24 - Apr 8 by GeoffSentence
It can be hard to get over in print, but I think Badger was being ironic.
i know he was - he was making his usual point about the police. i guess i was replying to the thread in general.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:40 - Apr 8 with 3991 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:18 - Apr 8 by OldFart71
It is my firm belief that there were people in senior positions involved in this and that is why Saville managed to get away with it until after his death. The 60's may have been a time of so called Free Love and we know many pop stars and the like were followed everywhere by groupies. Many who were looking for sex with these stars. But that doesn't in anyway excuse these celebrities such as Saville, Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris from taking advantage of their status. More seriously perhaps in the case of Saville taking advantage of women suffering various disabilities. To do what he did must have been supervised by others as he had keys to buildings at Stoke Mandevill Hospital. Many people complained and were pushed to one side being told to keep quite. Again I believe this was partly due to his status and partly due to associates with shall we say similar inclinations. Once Saville departed this mortal coil whoever covered up for him knew that they wouldn't be dragged into any investigation if Saville had been arrested before his death and Spilled The Beans.
I'm in agreement with you there, and I think there are still probably some out there at the moment upon whose deaths we'll find out precisely what they were up to.
I dare say that we'd find out a lot more if some of these folks' pads in the country were wired for sound. No doubt we'd discover what sort of mean streak they're hiding, at which point some people might suggest that the only way out for them would be to turn Queen's Evidence.
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:18 - Apr 8 by OldFart71
It is my firm belief that there were people in senior positions involved in this and that is why Saville managed to get away with it until after his death. The 60's may have been a time of so called Free Love and we know many pop stars and the like were followed everywhere by groupies. Many who were looking for sex with these stars. But that doesn't in anyway excuse these celebrities such as Saville, Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris from taking advantage of their status. More seriously perhaps in the case of Saville taking advantage of women suffering various disabilities. To do what he did must have been supervised by others as he had keys to buildings at Stoke Mandevill Hospital. Many people complained and were pushed to one side being told to keep quite. Again I believe this was partly due to his status and partly due to associates with shall we say similar inclinations. Once Saville departed this mortal coil whoever covered up for him knew that they wouldn't be dragged into any investigation if Saville had been arrested before his death and Spilled The Beans.
I don’t think there’s any doubt at all that some very high up people were involved in the crimes and the cover-up.
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:26 - Apr 8 by lowhouseblue
i know he was - he was making his usual point about the police. i guess i was replying to the thread in general.
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Your point about the culture of the time is correct. But it’s interesting to consider at what point that culture changed. Around what time was there a collective thought that “you know what, fking children is actually not okay”.
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:50 - Apr 8 by Illinoisblue
Your point about the culture of the time is correct. But it’s interesting to consider at what point that culture changed. Around what time was there a collective thought that “you know what, fking children is actually not okay”.
well into the 90s there are mainstream police dramas - morse is an example - where sex with a minor crops up as a passing sub plot twist and it never occurs to any of them to prosecute the offender. there's a collective shrug and they get back to the main event. i don't think the term 'statutory rape' made it's way into the mainstream until well into the 2000s.
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And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 18:19 - Apr 8 with 3803 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:50 - Apr 8 by Illinoisblue
Your point about the culture of the time is correct. But it’s interesting to consider at what point that culture changed. Around what time was there a collective thought that “you know what, fking children is actually not okay”.
The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the group now known as Liberty up until the mid 80’s.
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 17:47 - Apr 8 by Illinoisblue
I don’t think there’s any doubt at all that some very high up people were involved in the crimes and the cover-up.
He would brag as he knew he was 'untouchable'. And letting others know, by his comments.
Thatcher was certainly warned about him numerous times, but persisted as seen in perhaps the definitive book on the subject
In Plain Sight - Dan Davies
An excellent review has
"The truly overwhelming issue of this book is the fixation so many people have with fame. Savile was a malicious, psychopathic arch-manipulator but it takes two to tango and the other criminals in this remarkable story are the, literally, hundreds of people who facilitated his access to patients, children and teenagers, or by whose negligence allowed him to access them.......The next overwhelming issue is the process of saving face. All institutions seem susceptible to the grubby and demeaning way in which lies, cover-ups, denials and downright crookery are deployed to save face.......The book is a genuine masterwork. This is an enormous contemporary drama and tragedy. Dan Davies has produced an immensely powerful and vivid piece of writing. His descriptive powers are on a par with Dickens...."
worth £7 of anyones money (Amazon used)
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 18:50 - Apr 8 with 3684 views
The symptomatic of the times argument maybe fair enough when referencing the crimes of say Roman Polanski and Rolf Harris which were serious but what Saville did was way beyond this. The extent to which he abused not just young children but vulnerable young children in Stoke Mandeville Hospital was sickening and pure evil and could not have been carried out without individuals/institutions either turning a blind eye or facilitating his depravity. To say he just exploited that collective nudge, nudge, wink, wink attitude to commit heinous crimes is a weak argument.
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 00:38 - Apr 9 with 3208 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 18:00 - Apr 8 by lowhouseblue
well into the 90s there are mainstream police dramas - morse is an example - where sex with a minor crops up as a passing sub plot twist and it never occurs to any of them to prosecute the offender. there's a collective shrug and they get back to the main event. i don't think the term 'statutory rape' made it's way into the mainstream until well into the 2000s.
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I don’t think that’s the case with Morse - I can’t think of an episode where it was like that. In fact it is the main point of the plot in the Infernal Serpent and a child killing was a key to the episode Second Time Around.
While the world was a very different place back in the day, but there were standards and ways of behaving that are so different than today.
Saville and the other creatures mentioned are off any scale, over the line, appalling and I choose not to think of them as anything other than the dregs of the earth. What also bothers me is the who knew, why they were tolerated and indulged. Had I been their boss or worked with or for them I’d no more tolerated it than fly to the moon - at any cost.
These creatures’ bosses should have been held to account.
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 08:05 - Apr 9 by Churchman
I don’t think that’s the case with Morse - I can’t think of an episode where it was like that. In fact it is the main point of the plot in the Infernal Serpent and a child killing was a key to the episode Second Time Around.
While the world was a very different place back in the day, but there were standards and ways of behaving that are so different than today.
Saville and the other creatures mentioned are off any scale, over the line, appalling and I choose not to think of them as anything other than the dregs of the earth. What also bothers me is the who knew, why they were tolerated and indulged. Had I been their boss or worked with or for them I’d no more tolerated it than fly to the moon - at any cost.
These creatures’ bosses should have been held to account.
last seen wearing? it's all about a school girl and her teacher, with a sub plot of school girl and an estate agent?
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 09:43 - Apr 9 with 2798 views
Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story on 09:16 - Apr 9 by lowhouseblue
last seen wearing? it's all about a school girl and her teacher, with a sub plot of school girl and an estate agent?
I sort of remember it, but will have to re watch. It was if I remember basically about a missing schoolgirl and a perverted headmaster. I don’t remember anything untoward about it beyond the main point being to highlight disgusting perverts in position of influence or power. Something just as relevant to now.