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Need a big innings from Root 14:26 - Jun 4 with 2134 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Can't see it happening. 100 runs short of 10,000 but he is going to still be well short of it after today I fear.

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Need a big innings from Root on 14:33 - Jun 4 with 1714 viewsFunge

Our batting is pitiful.

McCullum has his hands full here (although I do think he was a good appointment).
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Need a big innings from Root on 14:35 - Jun 4 with 1708 viewschicoazul

Don’t do it to yourself. It’ll only sting a little more when the collapse happens.

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Need a big innings from Root on 14:35 - Jun 4 with 1708 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Need a big innings from Root on 14:33 - Jun 4 by Funge

Our batting is pitiful.

McCullum has his hands full here (although I do think he was a good appointment).


Every innings rely on Root. Get Root cheaply and we are all out for very few runs.

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Need a big innings from Root on 14:43 - Jun 4 with 1689 viewsFunge

Need a big innings from Root on 14:35 - Jun 4 by Nthsuffolkblue

Every innings rely on Root. Get Root cheaply and we are all out for very few runs.


Yep, I'd probably put Stokes in there too... get those two, and we're a mess.

Lees has had an underwhelming start, Pope looks beautiful, but has an average of 28 and is batting at 3 (!), Bairstow simply isn't a test batsman, and I don't really know what Crawley is.

Comment on the Guardian this morning re: the 'Boycott' score for England - if you wanted to get the 'real' score for a team, add 2 to their wicket column.

With this England team, you should add 6.
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Need a big innings from Root on 14:45 - Jun 4 with 1685 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Need a big innings from Root on 14:43 - Jun 4 by Funge

Yep, I'd probably put Stokes in there too... get those two, and we're a mess.

Lees has had an underwhelming start, Pope looks beautiful, but has an average of 28 and is batting at 3 (!), Bairstow simply isn't a test batsman, and I don't really know what Crawley is.

Comment on the Guardian this morning re: the 'Boycott' score for England - if you wanted to get the 'real' score for a team, add 2 to their wicket column.

With this England team, you should add 6.


We are effectively 9 down needing 277 more to win then. Sounds about right!

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Need a big innings from Root on 14:48 - Jun 4 with 1675 viewsKeno

Need a big innings from Root on 14:43 - Jun 4 by Funge

Yep, I'd probably put Stokes in there too... get those two, and we're a mess.

Lees has had an underwhelming start, Pope looks beautiful, but has an average of 28 and is batting at 3 (!), Bairstow simply isn't a test batsman, and I don't really know what Crawley is.

Comment on the Guardian this morning re: the 'Boycott' score for England - if you wanted to get the 'real' score for a team, add 2 to their wicket column.

With this England team, you should add 6.


from the BBC

Since the start of 2020, Zak Crawley has edged 8% of the deliveries he's faced in Test cricket. No English batter or all-rounder edges the ball more often in that time

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Need a big innings from Root on 14:49 - Jun 4 with 1671 viewsZXBlue

Need a big innings from Root on 14:48 - Jun 4 by Keno

from the BBC

Since the start of 2020, Zak Crawley has edged 8% of the deliveries he's faced in Test cricket. No English batter or all-rounder edges the ball more often in that time


Its shockingly bad.

No prospect here at all.
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Need a big innings from Root on 15:07 - Jun 4 with 1643 viewsZXBlue

Need a big innings from Root on 14:49 - Jun 4 by ZXBlue

Its shockingly bad.

No prospect here at all.


Its a test match. Loads of time. And Bairstow goes for 16 off 15. Ridiculous.
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Need a big innings from Root on 15:10 - Jun 4 with 1638 viewsFunge

Need a big innings from Root on 15:07 - Jun 4 by ZXBlue

Its a test match. Loads of time. And Bairstow goes for 16 off 15. Ridiculous.


Yep, a fair point.

The only batsmen we've had since Cook who could bat for time was Sibley - and he didn't score any runs.

And, as if by magic, Bairstow fcks it.
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Need a big innings from Root on 15:17 - Jun 4 with 1627 viewsGuthrum

Need a big innings from Root on 15:07 - Jun 4 by ZXBlue

Its a test match. Loads of time. And Bairstow goes for 16 off 15. Ridiculous.


Michael Vaughan was not impressed, having just said Barstow needed to defend to likely see the dangerous Jamison off.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Need a big innings from Root on 15:42 - Jun 4 with 1590 viewsgainsboroughblue

Need a big innings from Root on 15:17 - Jun 4 by Guthrum

Michael Vaughan was not impressed, having just said Barstow needed to defend to likely see the dangerous Jamison off.


He certainly wasn't. But he isn't wrong either.

Only England could have a team 6 down at lunch on the first day and be in danger of defeat by the end of the third.

It really is a mess.
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Need a big innings from Root on 15:54 - Jun 4 with 1565 viewsGuthrum

Need a big innings from Root on 15:42 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue

He certainly wasn't. But he isn't wrong either.

Only England could have a team 6 down at lunch on the first day and be in danger of defeat by the end of the third.

It really is a mess.
[Post edited 4 Jun 2022 15:43]


And it's the batting which is the problem. It seems to be more about temprament than technique. They're skilled, but not applying shots at the right time.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Need a big innings from Root on 16:57 - Jun 4 with 1515 viewsRomeo4

England doing what they often do. These 2 will build a decent partnership. Give us all a bit of hope. And then they’ll both get out in quick succession and the rest will follow in a procession. Standard stuff.
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Need a big innings from Root on 17:06 - Jun 4 with 1501 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Need a big innings from Root on 16:57 - Jun 4 by Romeo4

England doing what they often do. These 2 will build a decent partnership. Give us all a bit of hope. And then they’ll both get out in quick succession and the rest will follow in a procession. Standard stuff.


If they last that long then the new ball will do for us. Although I wouldn't be too surprised if one gets out sooner and it isn't even needed.

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Need a big innings from Root on 17:13 - Jun 4 with 1494 viewsgainsboroughblue

Need a big innings from Root on 16:57 - Jun 4 by Romeo4

England doing what they often do. These 2 will build a decent partnership. Give us all a bit of hope. And then they’ll both get out in quick succession and the rest will follow in a procession. Standard stuff.


Yep. Was going to say the same thing.

These two will get us within 80-100. One will get out before the new ball. The rest will follow in the space of 7-8 overs.

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Need a big innings from Root on 19:06 - Jun 4 with 1423 viewsgainsboroughblue

61 needed. 5 wickets left. In the balance but we really need Root to stay in, and Foakes to hang in for at least the first hour tomorrow.

Not sure how the pendulum has swung but you always fear the start of a session.

If there was another hour tonight, you'd have probably favoured England far more.

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Need a big innings from Root on 19:12 - Jun 4 with 1417 viewsITFCed

Well they need to do it before the new ball appears in 15 or so overs, great intent from Root at the end of the day, proper batting.

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Need a big innings from Root on 19:37 - Jun 4 with 1376 viewsRomeo4

Need a big innings from Root on 19:12 - Jun 4 by ITFCed

Well they need to do it before the new ball appears in 15 or so overs, great intent from Root at the end of the day, proper batting.


Score at 4 an over and we’ll only need 1 run when the new ball is taken! Root’s wicket is key obviously. Could be a very close finish. Good test match this.
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Need a big innings from Root on 21:17 - Jun 4 with 1306 viewsSteve_M

Been a really good day if Test cricket today, yes some really crap batting too but that won’t change overnight. Broad’s mini-spell this morning, Stokes escaping a shot due to a no ball and then virtually all of the last season were really enjoyable.

Even this England team should win this one from here (note’ should’).

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Need a big innings from Root on 21:59 - Jun 4 with 1271 viewsHARRY10

Need a big innings from Root on 17:13 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue

Yep. Was going to say the same thing.

These two will get us within 80-100. One will get out before the new ball. The rest will follow in the space of 7-8 overs.


"within 80-100"

I suppose 62 is much the same
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Need a big innings from Root on 22:26 - Jun 4 with 1228 viewsZXBlue

Need a big innings from Root on 21:59 - Jun 4 by HARRY10

"within 80-100"

I suppose 62 is much the same


Its essentially Root or nothing. As it has been for a couple of years or more.

If Root gets out tomorrow, we will lose.
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Need a big innings from Root on 23:31 - Jun 4 with 1177 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Need a big innings from Root on 15:54 - Jun 4 by Guthrum

And it's the batting which is the problem. It seems to be more about temprament than technique. They're skilled, but not applying shots at the right time.


Crawley and Pope look beautiful but don't have the temperament.

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Need a big innings from Root on 01:16 - Jun 5 with 1132 viewsRyorry

Need a big innings from Root on 16:57 - Jun 4 by Romeo4

England doing what they often do. These 2 will build a decent partnership. Give us all a bit of hope. And then they’ll both get out in quick succession and the rest will follow in a procession. Standard stuff.


There was an intervening period of a few years when we didn't hear the dreaded, horribly familiar phrase "England mid-order collapse" - then all of a sudden we did again.

What happened?!

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Need a big innings from Root on 12:39 - Jun 5 with 1006 viewsHARRY10

oh ye, of little faith

turning point was the hatrick of NZ wickets, with the excellent run out of 'Groundsman'
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Need a big innings from Root on 12:50 - Jun 5 with 984 viewsRomeo4

Need a big innings from Root on 12:39 - Jun 5 by HARRY10

oh ye, of little faith

turning point was the hatrick of NZ wickets, with the excellent run out of 'Groundsman'


And another was Stokes getting a 2nd life when bowled off a no ball.

Great knock by Root. Excellent test match.
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