| Available players tonight then... 09:25 - Oct 25 with 3724 views | itfcjoe |
I make it 16 fully fit senior players, guess potentially Camara for the bench, or Ahadme as not heard lots about him, but maybe a youngster having some involvement like Agabje, Armin, Chriewa or Siziba. Plus a 3rd keeper for the warm up - was Williamson on Friday but we have a FA Youth Cup game tomorrow.
GK - Walton, Hladky
RB - Donacien
LB - Davis
CB - Woolfenden, Edmundson, Keogh
CM - Ball, Humphreys
AM - Chaplin, Harness, Burns, Edwards
F - John-Jules, Jackson, Ladapo
Unavailable
GK - Hayes
RB - Vincent-Young
LB - Leigh
CB - Burgess
CM - Evans, Morsy, Camara
AM - Aluko
F - Ahadme |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:26 - Oct 25 with 3073 views | Dyland |
Given the lack of midfielders oi reckon it's a good opp to put Chirewa on the bench. He took a little while to get going against Cambridge I thought, but once in the swing looked very capable. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:35 - Oct 25 with 3006 views | clive_baker |
Burgess can't be far off, at least for a spot on the bench given the nature of the injury.
My guess is:
Walton
JD Woolf Edmundson
Burns Ball Humphreys Davis
Harness Chaplin
Ladapo
Subs: Hladky, Keogh, Edwards, Jackson, John-Jules, Camara, Burgess. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:36 - Oct 25 with 2988 views | LankHenners |
From McKenna's chat yesterday it did seem like he was considering Camara and Burgess for the bench. We'll need someone to cover the CM positions so I guess he has to decide whether it's better to have a non-match-fit Camara or an inexperienced youth.
Assume we'll know more about Ahadme later as he had his scan yesterday, which presumably rules him out tonight even if it was good news. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:37 - Oct 25 with 2977 views | homer_123 |
Again, and no disrespect to Hayes but that Unavailable list - at this level is ridiculous. Even more so considering it is not really affecting the strength of the starting XI.
Madness. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:39 - Oct 25 with 2955 views | Kieran_Knows |
At a guess, I will go with;
Walton
Donacien Keogh Edmundson
Edwards Humphreys Ball Davis
Chaplin John-Jules
Ladapo |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 09:45 - Oct 25 with 2907 views | itfcjoe |
| Available players tonight then... on 09:35 - Oct 25 by clive_baker |
Burgess can't be far off, at least for a spot on the bench given the nature of the injury.
My guess is:
Walton
JD Woolf Edmundson
Burns Ball Humphreys Davis
Harness Chaplin
Ladapo
Subs: Hladky, Keogh, Edwards, Jackson, John-Jules, Camara, Burgess. |
I wonder if a game for Keogh tonight, maybe at the expense of Edmundson to give him a break for a game?
It's a big wide pitch at Vale, which isn't in great condition so maybe feels a game for Jackson as well to try and get in behind. | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:00 - Oct 25 with 2809 views | unstableblue |
Next two games going to be interesting. Test of the squad and the automatic promotion credentials.
Vale and especially Charlton have had some good form of late, and the absence of Morsy and Evans will challenge the team system and effectiveness.
Also we’ve been getting the results, but our player performance levels for me have dropped a little, with a few mediocre halves, in amongst the winning. Donacien an example.
Ball is the key man tonight, and he’s wanted to step up, now is his chance.
Hoping Chaplin and Harness can match the resurgent form of Burns.
We should still have enough to overcome Port Vale, but a good test.
Win these two games, and I’d feel very confident of our promotion credentials. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:03 - Oct 25 with 2793 views | PhilTWTD |
Burgess and Camara will travel from what KMc said. Both OK for the bench.
Ahadme was due to undergo a scan yesterday to ascertain how long he was going to be out so nowhere near ready. |  | | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:09 - Oct 25 with 2720 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:03 - Oct 25 by PhilTWTD |
Burgess and Camara will travel from what KMc said. Both OK for the bench.
Ahadme was due to undergo a scan yesterday to ascertain how long he was going to be out so nowhere near ready. |
I suspect McKenna is hoping for us to be 2/3-0 up with 15 minutes left to play just to get some minutes in the legs of Camara. | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:11 - Oct 25 with 2693 views | PhilTWTD |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:09 - Oct 25 by Kieran_Knows |
I suspect McKenna is hoping for us to be 2/3-0 up with 15 minutes left to play just to get some minutes in the legs of Camara. |
Probably. Ideally he wouldn't include him this early from the way he was talking on Friday but no other central midfield options. | | | |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:17 - Oct 25 with 2616 views | DinDjarin |
Burgess and Camara will be on the bench tonight. |  | | |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:18 - Oct 25 with 2600 views | Kesgrave_Exile |
Could someone like Woolfenden move into a holding midfield role as a one off? |  | | |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:19 - Oct 25 with 2594 views | homer_123 |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:18 - Oct 25 by Kesgrave_Exile |
Could someone like Woolfenden move into a holding midfield role as a one off? |
Ball and Humphreys are more than fine as our CMs | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:22 - Oct 25 with 2573 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:11 - Oct 25 by PhilTWTD |
Probably. Ideally he wouldn't include him this early from the way he was talking on Friday but no other central midfield options. |
Much as it would be good to put a youngster on the bench, they have to be good enough ad have earned the right to be involved. I don't know enough about them to know whether they are/have. It will be good for Humphreys to get a start. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:26 - Oct 25 with 2552 views | unstableblue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:03 - Oct 25 by PhilTWTD |
Burgess and Camara will travel from what KMc said. Both OK for the bench.
Ahadme was due to undergo a scan yesterday to ascertain how long he was going to be out so nowhere near ready. |
I assume Evans doesn’t travel?
Scan was yesterday I think. Assume McKenna will update on that I’m post match interview?? | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:26 - Oct 25 with 2545 views | TrumptonBlue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:19 - Oct 25 by homer_123 |
Ball and Humphreys are more than fine as our CMs |
Agreed. If we find a way not to play Humphreys tonight, those concerns about pathways will feel like they have real justification. |  | | |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:29 - Oct 25 with 2505 views | itfcjoe |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:22 - Oct 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Much as it would be good to put a youngster on the bench, they have to be good enough ad have earned the right to be involved. I don't know enough about them to know whether they are/have. It will be good for Humphreys to get a start. |
For me seems pointless having a senior player on the bench who can only manage a few minutes, especially if 2 players in that situation.....better to use the opportunity to give experience to a youngster even if they don't get on | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:30 - Oct 25 with 2484 views | unstableblue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:19 - Oct 25 by homer_123 |
Ball and Humphreys are more than fine as our CMs |
Big night for Ball, what we been waiting for.
He did an exit video with a QPR fans podcast, and he really came across as not someone who enjoys being on the bench and a squad player.
Ball has always looked quality to me, and keen to see him in the deeper role. Perhaps not the longer pass of Evans but his distribution looked crisp, and he’s perhaps more of an attack dog than Evans.
Humphreys will provide some nice incisive passing in the final third but not sure he’s got Morsy’s tackle and ability to press. | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:33 - Oct 25 with 2450 views | Deano69 |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:19 - Oct 25 by homer_123 |
Ball and Humphreys are more than fine as our CMs |
Pretty sure both of them would make the first eleven of pretty much all the teams in this league |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:35 - Oct 25 with 2435 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:29 - Oct 25 by itfcjoe |
For me seems pointless having a senior player on the bench who can only manage a few minutes, especially if 2 players in that situation.....better to use the opportunity to give experience to a youngster even if they don't get on |
Which senior player would only be able to manage a few minutes? Didn't Camara play a good number of minutes for the reserves the other day? Of course, if he does only have 10-15 minutes in him, then a youngster who is definitely ready to make the step up would be better. However, one just for the experience wouldn't even then. What happens if we lose one of Ball or Humphreys with 10-15 minutes to go? A lot can happen in those final minutes.
Also, who are the two players in that position? Or are you referring to Burgess? I think Burgess adds cover for defence and midfield in that Woolfenden could probably move forward if needed. It is far from inconceivable that we lose a defensive midfielder at some point and then have good cause to replace the other one in the last 10-15 minutes as well. Let said youngster have the experience of travelling and being a part of the squad but only sits on the bench if one of the 18 can't. | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:43 - Oct 25 with 2349 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Available players tonight then... on 09:35 - Oct 25 by clive_baker |
Burgess can't be far off, at least for a spot on the bench given the nature of the injury.
My guess is:
Walton
JD Woolf Edmundson
Burns Ball Humphreys Davis
Harness Chaplin
Ladapo
Subs: Hladky, Keogh, Edwards, Jackson, John-Jules, Camara, Burgess. |
Harness to be dropped.
Sorry, rotated. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:45 - Oct 25 with 2329 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:29 - Oct 25 by itfcjoe |
For me seems pointless having a senior player on the bench who can only manage a few minutes, especially if 2 players in that situation.....better to use the opportunity to give experience to a youngster even if they don't get on |
You'd rather give an appearance to a youngster who might not be involved again this season over a new signing who needs minutes for his recovery. Bit odd. |  |
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| Available players tonight then... on 10:52 - Oct 25 with 2291 views | clive_baker |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:35 - Oct 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Which senior player would only be able to manage a few minutes? Didn't Camara play a good number of minutes for the reserves the other day? Of course, if he does only have 10-15 minutes in him, then a youngster who is definitely ready to make the step up would be better. However, one just for the experience wouldn't even then. What happens if we lose one of Ball or Humphreys with 10-15 minutes to go? A lot can happen in those final minutes.
Also, who are the two players in that position? Or are you referring to Burgess? I think Burgess adds cover for defence and midfield in that Woolfenden could probably move forward if needed. It is far from inconceivable that we lose a defensive midfielder at some point and then have good cause to replace the other one in the last 10-15 minutes as well. Let said youngster have the experience of travelling and being a part of the squad but only sits on the bench if one of the 18 can't. |
I don't think Burgess is a worry personally, he had a pre-season and was getting regular minutes up until 4 weeks ago. Given the nature of the injury (facial) and the fact he's been back in training for a few days now I wouldn't be too worried about him.
It's the midfield cover that's probably more questionable, if Ball goes off after 10 minutes what do we do? I guess that's what KM is thinking. Camara is clearly some way off playing 80 minutes of league action, understandably so. Let's hope that's not something we're faced with. | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 11:02 - Oct 25 with 2232 views | itfcjoe |
| Available players tonight then... on 10:35 - Oct 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Which senior player would only be able to manage a few minutes? Didn't Camara play a good number of minutes for the reserves the other day? Of course, if he does only have 10-15 minutes in him, then a youngster who is definitely ready to make the step up would be better. However, one just for the experience wouldn't even then. What happens if we lose one of Ball or Humphreys with 10-15 minutes to go? A lot can happen in those final minutes.
Also, who are the two players in that position? Or are you referring to Burgess? I think Burgess adds cover for defence and midfield in that Woolfenden could probably move forward if needed. It is far from inconceivable that we lose a defensive midfielder at some point and then have good cause to replace the other one in the last 10-15 minutes as well. Let said youngster have the experience of travelling and being a part of the squad but only sits on the bench if one of the 18 can't. |
Camara played 45 minutes at Cambridge last Tuesday and looked miles off it, I didn't go to U21s game on Friday but a few who went said he was just easing himself through it and prob needed another couple of games at that level - he's been out a long time. If we have an early injury or CM then he simply wouldn't be able to help us.
Assuming Burgess is the same, his injury a very different type, but he wasn't ready to play a Papa Johns game this time last week, so again isn't going to be much use for a prolonged period and we have 3 CBs so shouldn't be needed to have 2 on the bench and wouldn't usually do that.
Someone like Albie Armin can cover LB, CB and CM and may be a useful player to have there, who could get some minutes if things go well | |
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| Available players tonight then... on 11:09 - Oct 25 with 2176 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Available players tonight then... on 11:02 - Oct 25 by itfcjoe |
Camara played 45 minutes at Cambridge last Tuesday and looked miles off it, I didn't go to U21s game on Friday but a few who went said he was just easing himself through it and prob needed another couple of games at that level - he's been out a long time. If we have an early injury or CM then he simply wouldn't be able to help us.
Assuming Burgess is the same, his injury a very different type, but he wasn't ready to play a Papa Johns game this time last week, so again isn't going to be much use for a prolonged period and we have 3 CBs so shouldn't be needed to have 2 on the bench and wouldn't usually do that.
Someone like Albie Armin can cover LB, CB and CM and may be a useful player to have there, who could get some minutes if things go well |
I would say that is the argument for needing both Burgess and Camara on the bench. The aim would be that Camara only plays if needed for 10-15 minutes. Burgess would help enable the contingency that someone is needed to cover for longer.
Much as I like the idea of getting more youngsters involved, they have to be good enough and have earned the right. If there is one who is clearly as good as a not-fully-fit Camara, then they should be on the bench. I am not sure any one youngster is standing out as that at the moment. If Humphreys doesn't start, that would be more of a concern about a lack of pathways. | |
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