| Is that a reason you should always change taker? 20:45 - Dec 10 with 6425 views | FrimleyBlue |
Overthinking after his first? |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:46 - Dec 10 with 3245 views | Keno |
No, he just missed it |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 with 3217 views | homer_123 |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:46 - Dec 10 by Keno |
No, he just missed it |
Indeed....a lot of pens missed this WC. |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 with 3216 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:46 - Dec 10 by Keno |
No, he just missed it |
Do you not think tho that it makes you think differently to someone else? I've already been there do I go there. Etc.
It's a shame as I can't see us scoring in open play. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 with 3218 views | gainsboroughblue |
Not really but must be such an element of kidology/familiarity there. I mean, how many times must have Lloris faced Kane from the spot in training? |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:48 - Dec 10 with 3191 views | Keno |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Do you not think tho that it makes you think differently to someone else? I've already been there do I go there. Etc.
It's a shame as I can't see us scoring in open play. |
No he just missed it | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:48 - Dec 10 with 3194 views | homer_123 |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Do you not think tho that it makes you think differently to someone else? I've already been there do I go there. Etc.
It's a shame as I can't see us scoring in open play. |
No. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:53 - Dec 10 with 3136 views | stonojnr |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:47 - Dec 10 by gainsboroughblue |
Not really but must be such an element of kidology/familiarity there. I mean, how many times must have Lloris faced Kane from the spot in training? |
I was wondering that myself and if he changed it to try and fool him which as John Wark always said you dont change the penalty you want to take. |  | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:54 - Dec 10 with 3121 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:53 - Dec 10 by stonojnr |
I was wondering that myself and if he changed it to try and fool him which as John Wark always said you dont change the penalty you want to take. |
I just think a 2nd pen is to much for one person to think about after already scoring one. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:01 - Dec 10 with 3080 views | Keno |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:54 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I just think a 2nd pen is to much for one person to think about after already scoring one. |
No he just missed it | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:22 - Dec 10 with 3018 views | Ryorry |
I do think the psychological aspect played a big part in that - absolutely wanted to go same side, but guessed that Lloris would guess that, so tried to place it out of his reach in top corner & failed. |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:28 - Dec 10 with 2984 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:22 - Dec 10 by Ryorry |
I do think the psychological aspect played a big part in that - absolutely wanted to go same side, but guessed that Lloris would guess that, so tried to place it out of his reach in top corner & failed. |
Yep exactly how I see that. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:31 - Dec 10 with 2969 views | Keno |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:28 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Yep exactly how I see that. |
No he just missed it | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:32 - Dec 10 with 2963 views | essexpaul64 |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:31 - Dec 10 by Keno |
No he just missed it |
Got to at least hit the target |  | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:34 - Dec 10 with 2949 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:31 - Dec 10 by Keno |
No he just missed it |
Not what most seem to be saying after
Different run up. Changed the way he hit it etc etc.
Correct he missed it. But why is imo because he shouldn't have taken it. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:36 - Dec 10 with 2918 views | Keno |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:34 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
Not what most seem to be saying after
Different run up. Changed the way he hit it etc etc.
Correct he missed it. But why is imo because he shouldn't have taken it. |
I think your best penalty should take the penalty | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:38 - Dec 10 with 2908 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:36 - Dec 10 by Keno |
I think your best penalty should take the penalty |
The first one absolutely
2nd no chance. Similar to when if you miss the first you shouldn't take the 2nd. Mentally different that 2nd pen.
In a squad of internationals there would be someone comfortable taking a pen lmo. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:44 - Dec 10 with 2885 views | clive_baker |
Alright Eniola Aluko. All these captain hindsights are p1ssing me off. Didn’t see many people saying that before Kane stepped up. |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:44 - Dec 10 with 2881 views | Wickets |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 20:54 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I just think a 2nd pen is to much for one person to think about after already scoring one. |
I must admit i did think that perhaps we should change the kicker for the second penalty but it's Harry so i just put it out of my mind and just said a little prayer . I do think the whole squad worked really hard and we could not have asked for more . |  | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:45 - Dec 10 with 2877 views | WicklowBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:38 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
The first one absolutely
2nd no chance. Similar to when if you miss the first you shouldn't take the 2nd. Mentally different that 2nd pen.
In a squad of internationals there would be someone comfortable taking a pen lmo. |
Think you are overreaching here Frimmers. You always want your best penalty taker to take all the penos. Surely if you score the first you are more likely to be confident to score the 2nd. Looks to me as if Kane was in two minds, I thought he should just blast it down the middle. It happens, pressure moments can't be replicated in training. |  | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:47 - Dec 10 with 2861 views | Churchman |
He’s the penalty taker. Of course he should have taken it. Had we got another, he should have taken that too. I say again, he’s the man unless he says no.
He didn’t over think it. He just made a pigs ear of it. He’s human, it happens. Good penalty takers know where they’re going to hit it and do just that. And Kane is good.
At 1-1 we let them back in. That’s where the game was lost. We need better than the two in the centre of defence for me |  | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:47 - Dec 10 with 2862 views | hoppy |
Yes, you could well be. |  |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:47 - Dec 10 with 2859 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:44 - Dec 10 by clive_baker |
Alright Eniola Aluko. All these captain hindsights are p1ssing me off. Didn’t see many people saying that before Kane stepped up. |
Said it to my son if that helps. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:51 - Dec 10 with 2838 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:45 - Dec 10 by WicklowBlue |
Think you are overreaching here Frimmers. You always want your best penalty taker to take all the penos. Surely if you score the first you are more likely to be confident to score the 2nd. Looks to me as if Kane was in two minds, I thought he should just blast it down the middle. It happens, pressure moments can't be replicated in training. |
You've just said what my point is though. He looked caught I'm two minds.
I appreciate confidence.. but if I'm sitting there thinking does he go same way but higher lower. Or does he go right because keeper may think he'll go same way etc.. then god knows what kane has going through his head.
Never mind. It wasn't meant to be as they say. | |
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| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 22:06 - Dec 10 with 2798 views | WicklowBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 21:51 - Dec 10 by FrimleyBlue |
You've just said what my point is though. He looked caught I'm two minds.
I appreciate confidence.. but if I'm sitting there thinking does he go same way but higher lower. Or does he go right because keeper may think he'll go same way etc.. then god knows what kane has going through his head.
Never mind. It wasn't meant to be as they say. |
Well how do you know if Kane was going to be caught in two minds unless he missed the second?
Anyways agreed it just wasn't to be...small margins etc thought England were the better side overall. | | | |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 22:09 - Dec 10 with 2776 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is that a reason you should always change taker? on 22:06 - Dec 10 by WicklowBlue |
Well how do you know if Kane was going to be caught in two minds unless he missed the second?
Anyways agreed it just wasn't to be...small margins etc thought England were the better side overall. |
I think it's natural imo to be double thinking before taking a 2nd penalty. I don't think it's possible not to.
I don't feel we were the better.. France showed when they needed to they upped the gears. They are frightening when they need a goal. | |
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