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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) 13:54 - Dec 19 with 6019 viewsPAFCSurrey

hi guys,

Really looking forward to my first visit to P.R in January, should be a decent game if we're both still in the same/similar positions come mid Jan. I am more muted about our prospects over the last 6 games, before that I was really quite confident of autos. Now.....not so much

Anyway, wanted to ask on how our old boy Panutche and what the current verdict is on him? He doesnt seem to be playing much? Still injured whats the view from your side on him.

Cheers,
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:01 - Dec 19 with 5928 viewsStewart27

I would say good luck but I’d be lying!

Well done on the season so far though. Impressive stuff.

Can’t comment on Camara. He’s played a few minutes here and there and is now injured again. Dear you have got a great deal here and we’ve signed a crock.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:03 - Dec 19 with 5916 viewsclive_baker

Basically hasn't got fit since he arrived. Played a little bit but looked very rusty, and been deemed not to have recovered from his injury so taken out again until that's put right. I dare say we didn't anticipate such a long lay off, but I think it's the right thing to not rush it back.

Looking forward to your visit to PR though, should be a big game between 2 decent sides. We owe you for the defeat at Home Park.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:12 - Dec 19 with 5824 viewsLankHenners

As others said he's basically been injured the whole time and the few times he has played he's clearly needed some more game time to get back into top gear so can't really give an opinion. There's been no word on when he'll be back so assume it'll be a while still which is unfortunate.

In a way I think it's a shame when top of the table clashes aren't until later in the season but will be a good game in January. Both teams have had results recently which they should have done better with and will be interesting to see if any transfer business is done for either side in the first couple of weeks to bolster each squad.

Would be good if both of us could finish top two, obviously want Town up there but would rather you come up as well rather than Wednesday.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:25 - Dec 19 with 5717 viewsPAFCSurrey

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:01 - Dec 19 by Stewart27

I would say good luck but I’d be lying!

Well done on the season so far though. Impressive stuff.

Can’t comment on Camara. He’s played a few minutes here and there and is now injured again. Dear you have got a great deal here and we’ve signed a crock.


Word is we sold him for £500k, which to us is loads but probably peanuts to most others.

OK thats interesting, thanks.

Yes i'd be very disappointed if we lost out to Wednesday, I dont mind them as a club but i'd rather it was you and us.

We've done incredibly well so far for the budget we have compared to, well, you lot, Wednesday, Derby etc. Its going to be key to see how we strengthen in Jan, we've really missed our loanee from Villa, Azaz since he's been injured.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:30 - Dec 19 with 5662 viewsJ2BLUE

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:25 - Dec 19 by PAFCSurrey

Word is we sold him for £500k, which to us is loads but probably peanuts to most others.

OK thats interesting, thanks.

Yes i'd be very disappointed if we lost out to Wednesday, I dont mind them as a club but i'd rather it was you and us.

We've done incredibly well so far for the budget we have compared to, well, you lot, Wednesday, Derby etc. Its going to be key to see how we strengthen in Jan, we've really missed our loanee from Villa, Azaz since he's been injured.


Ignore the crock comment. Some Ipswich fans have a bizarre fetish with injured players never recovering and never playing for us again. He might not, but chances are we did some research before signing him and he's just had a set back.

Truly impaired.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:34 - Dec 19 with 5631 viewsPAFCSurrey

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:30 - Dec 19 by J2BLUE

Ignore the crock comment. Some Ipswich fans have a bizarre fetish with injured players never recovering and never playing for us again. He might not, but chances are we did some research before signing him and he's just had a set back.


we have similar though. We got a guy from Rotherham in pre season, Mickael Miller and he's hardly played. Another set back. James Bolton the same.

A few fans asking questions, as we supposedly vwry hot on the data analytics and these sorts of injury records shouldve come up.

As another non Camara aside, James Wilson really has been decent for us since he joined. He's not out best defender (Dan Scarr is) but he's very solid. Probably not the best technical ball playing player, but just a really solid pro
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:40 - Dec 19 with 5558 viewsBlueandTruesince82

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:25 - Dec 19 by PAFCSurrey

Word is we sold him for £500k, which to us is loads but probably peanuts to most others.

OK thats interesting, thanks.

Yes i'd be very disappointed if we lost out to Wednesday, I dont mind them as a club but i'd rather it was you and us.

We've done incredibly well so far for the budget we have compared to, well, you lot, Wednesday, Derby etc. Its going to be key to see how we strengthen in Jan, we've really missed our loanee from Villa, Azaz since he's been injured.


I think it's probably fair to say must of us would rather see you pip Weds too.

I'd be very happy with you and us going up and then rooting for anyone but Weds in the play offs

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:43 - Dec 19 with 5519 viewsFrimleyBlue

Some brief appearances due to his injury and possible flare up of the same recently. And whilst when he played you couldn't really say wow... there was still something within his appearances where you could see the potential that is there once fit.

I'd suggest we've seen all we have of him this season now and will work with him behind the scenes. Get a pre season behind him and see him at his fittest next season. With the Jan window coming. Potential loaness to recall in his place.. I think a bit part Camara is no use to us at the business end of the season.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:51 - Dec 19 with 5417 viewsPAFCSurrey

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:43 - Dec 19 by FrimleyBlue

Some brief appearances due to his injury and possible flare up of the same recently. And whilst when he played you couldn't really say wow... there was still something within his appearances where you could see the potential that is there once fit.

I'd suggest we've seen all we have of him this season now and will work with him behind the scenes. Get a pre season behind him and see him at his fittest next season. With the Jan window coming. Potential loaness to recall in his place.. I think a bit part Camara is no use to us at the business end of the season.


The thing is with him, is that when hes on form - which you've not seen - is that he really is quite unlike other players. His fitness and work rate is quite amazing and he has this like gazelle like long strides when he runs, some of the rampaging runs from midfield for us were absolutely terrific.

Fingers crossed he comes good for you......after the 14th
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:55 - Dec 19 with 5339 viewsclive_baker

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:51 - Dec 19 by PAFCSurrey

The thing is with him, is that when hes on form - which you've not seen - is that he really is quite unlike other players. His fitness and work rate is quite amazing and he has this like gazelle like long strides when he runs, some of the rampaging runs from midfield for us were absolutely terrific.

Fingers crossed he comes good for you......after the 14th


We saw glimpses, he looked unfit, a little sloppy in possession and his passing was loose which I guess was to be expected given his rustiness. However there were one or 2 of those moments you describe, long strides, covering the ground quickly. He came on for 10 minutes in the FA Cup and scored with pretty much his first touch. He then came on for injury time against Cheltenham and very nearly scored a winner with the last kick, he hit the top of the post. He won't be bit part, he'll be heavily involved as and when we can get him fit but the club is clearly, rightly, taking their time over that and not rushing it.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 15:00 - Dec 19 with 5282 viewsFrimleyBlue

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:51 - Dec 19 by PAFCSurrey

The thing is with him, is that when hes on form - which you've not seen - is that he really is quite unlike other players. His fitness and work rate is quite amazing and he has this like gazelle like long strides when he runs, some of the rampaging runs from midfield for us were absolutely terrific.

Fingers crossed he comes good for you......after the 14th


Thanks.

I definitely caught a brief moment of what you mention. It was one of the appearances where he chased a lost cause and altho it wasn't anything special. It showcased what we probably will get when fully fit.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 15:04 - Dec 19 with 5254 viewsBasuco

As already said, he looked good in the brief moments we have seen him, I think he was brought back earlier than intended due to a lot of other Town injuries, but I personally see him as a good buy. On other matters I think you have a great manager in Steven Schumacher, like many I thought you would fall away following the departure of Ryan Lowe, but you did the opposite and look stronger, I hope to play you in the Championship next season.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 16:11 - Dec 19 with 4766 viewsfranz_tyson

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:34 - Dec 19 by PAFCSurrey

we have similar though. We got a guy from Rotherham in pre season, Mickael Miller and he's hardly played. Another set back. James Bolton the same.

A few fans asking questions, as we supposedly vwry hot on the data analytics and these sorts of injury records shouldve come up.

As another non Camara aside, James Wilson really has been decent for us since he joined. He's not out best defender (Dan Scarr is) but he's very solid. Probably not the best technical ball playing player, but just a really solid pro


Wilson was our Player of the Season before he joined Plymouth. Even though he only played 18 games.... not much competition TBF. that season, but an underrated player i liked.We should have held onto him, but sounds like he made a good choice to join Plymouth. Think he would have helped us in our crazy transfer transition season.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 16:22 - Dec 19 with 4719 viewschicoazul

Strongly believe Camara will be the last Banter Era signing and, by being signed injured and by being constantly injured thereafter and the team he came from being the only one above us in the table, you couldn’t hope for a more perfect capper.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 17:02 - Dec 19 with 4478 viewshomer_123

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 16:11 - Dec 19 by franz_tyson

Wilson was our Player of the Season before he joined Plymouth. Even though he only played 18 games.... not much competition TBF. that season, but an underrated player i liked.We should have held onto him, but sounds like he made a good choice to join Plymouth. Think he would have helped us in our crazy transfer transition season.


Wilson, as good at defending as he is, doesn't fit into the ball playing CB that KM is looking for.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 18:30 - Dec 19 with 4119 viewsTangledupin_Blue

Looking forward to your visit. Best parking is at Gatwick which, I assume, should be quite convenient for you.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 18:48 - Dec 19 with 4016 viewsGlasgowBlue

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:43 - Dec 19 by FrimleyBlue

Some brief appearances due to his injury and possible flare up of the same recently. And whilst when he played you couldn't really say wow... there was still something within his appearances where you could see the potential that is there once fit.

I'd suggest we've seen all we have of him this season now and will work with him behind the scenes. Get a pre season behind him and see him at his fittest next season. With the Jan window coming. Potential loaness to recall in his place.. I think a bit part Camara is no use to us at the business end of the season.


He'll be back by late January/ early February.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 19:02 - Dec 19 with 3938 viewsFrimleyBlue

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 18:48 - Dec 19 by GlasgowBlue

He'll be back by late January/ early February.


Do you think we will see much of him?

I just Don't know if he'll offer enough whilst getting back to fitness to be picked over others who will be match fit come what will be the most important weeks of the season.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 21:06 - Dec 19 with 3521 viewsCoastalblue

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 19:02 - Dec 19 by FrimleyBlue

Do you think we will see much of him?

I just Don't know if he'll offer enough whilst getting back to fitness to be picked over others who will be match fit come what will be the most important weeks of the season.


I think we may well see quite a bit of him in the run in, that energy and drive he brings will be important and is different to what we have elsewhere. Maybe not 90 minutes every week, but if he's fit I would imagine he will get a fair bit of game time.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 22:04 - Dec 19 with 3255 viewsLeoMuff

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 18:48 - Dec 19 by GlasgowBlue

He'll be back by late January/ early February.


Will it be that long ? I got the impression he wasn’t that far away, just a minor set back. It’s been such a shame, was a player I was hoping we would sign and would really add something different to us.

He looked decent in his fa cup cameo, albeit against a very tired opponent, and against Cheltenham when he bit the post.

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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 22:28 - Dec 19 with 3132 viewsJuggsy

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 22:04 - Dec 19 by LeoMuff

Will it be that long ? I got the impression he wasn’t that far away, just a minor set back. It’s been such a shame, was a player I was hoping we would sign and would really add something different to us.

He looked decent in his fa cup cameo, albeit against a very tired opponent, and against Cheltenham when he bit the post.


hope he's got a good dentist.
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Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 11:12 - Dec 20 with 2311 viewsStewart27

Argyle Fan in Peace (Camara) on 14:30 - Dec 19 by J2BLUE

Ignore the crock comment. Some Ipswich fans have a bizarre fetish with injured players never recovering and never playing for us again. He might not, but chances are we did some research before signing him and he's just had a set back.


No bizarre fetish here thank you.

Not blaming the club or player. It’s unfortunate that we may have signed a crock. It’s happened before and was disappointing then also.

It happens.
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