| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet 14:45 - Feb 16 with 11929 views | TalkingBlues |
for some time now. We often speak of "must win" games for the team, but I genuinely believe that Saturday is a "must win" for McKenna, anything less than 3 points against FGR and the powers that be start drawing up a list of managerial candidates (if they haven't already). It's the diligent and prudent thing to do, McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked. Our owners are investing a lot of money on and off the pitch and they want results quickly, so will Ashton, before his job comes under scrutiny too. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 14:45]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:46 - Feb 16 with 4779 views | TractorCam |
We're hardly under a crisis which needs clarity from Brett Johnson on twitter. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:49 - Feb 16 with 4722 views | Herbivore |
Obvious budgie is obvious. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:50 - Feb 16 with 4743 views | itfcjoe |
Is that the bar then? Whatever has happened previously in your tenure if you have a bad run of 15 games you are sacked? No such thing as credit in the bank - just the arbitrary 15 game window |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:51 - Feb 16 with 4722 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:49 - Feb 16 by Herbivore |
Obvious budgie is obvious. |
As usual, you have nothing to offer of worth. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:53 - Feb 16 with 4679 views | mrfixit426 |
SMH. |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:54 - Feb 16 with 4674 views | Illinoisblue |
Is your entire life as frantic and overwrought as your posts? |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:56 - Feb 16 with 4664 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:46 - Feb 16 by TractorCam |
We're hardly under a crisis which needs clarity from Brett Johnson on twitter. |
The weird desire to create a fictional crisis scenario in the heads of the owners resurfaces.
We could all imagine what they are saying.
Or we could read their interviews - which include actual words they have said out loud - and conclude they are patient people in for the long haul who believe they have got the right man in McKenna. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:58 - Feb 16 with 4646 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:50 - Feb 16 by itfcjoe |
Is that the bar then? Whatever has happened previously in your tenure if you have a bad run of 15 games you are sacked? No such thing as credit in the bank - just the arbitrary 15 game window |
I think you know that football is cut throat and no, I don't believe with Ashton and Gamechanger that there will be any leeway, McKenna doesn't have any credit in the bank, if he'd got us promoted previously, or steered us out of certain relegation, maybe, but that's not where he has been, he was brought in to achieve promotion ASAP and not only haven't we achieved it (yet) we are performing more poorly than we have under previous managers that were sacked specifically because of the teams form and we are heading towards not even making the playoffs at this rate. All this, despite McK having multiple times the money and considerably better structure around him, from top to bottom, staff, training facilities etc etc. I do not believe for one second that Ashton, or our owners will stand for that sort of dip, I honestly don't and that's why I think this Saturday is so important for McKenna, there are literally no excuses for anything other than 3 points, bottom of the league, in terrible form etc. | |
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| Nothing to see here... on 14:59 - Feb 16 with 4634 views | BiGDonnie |
However fear not, half term is over soon. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:05 - Feb 16 with 4571 views | Herbivore |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:51 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
As usual, you have nothing to offer of worth. |
Well, that's another irony meter fooked. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:06 - Feb 16 with 4569 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:05 - Feb 16 by Herbivore |
Well, that's another irony meter fooked. |
Agreed, I reckon you must be sponsored by the Manufacturer | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:10 - Feb 16 with 4534 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 14:58 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
I think you know that football is cut throat and no, I don't believe with Ashton and Gamechanger that there will be any leeway, McKenna doesn't have any credit in the bank, if he'd got us promoted previously, or steered us out of certain relegation, maybe, but that's not where he has been, he was brought in to achieve promotion ASAP and not only haven't we achieved it (yet) we are performing more poorly than we have under previous managers that were sacked specifically because of the teams form and we are heading towards not even making the playoffs at this rate. All this, despite McK having multiple times the money and considerably better structure around him, from top to bottom, staff, training facilities etc etc. I do not believe for one second that Ashton, or our owners will stand for that sort of dip, I honestly don't and that's why I think this Saturday is so important for McKenna, there are literally no excuses for anything other than 3 points, bottom of the league, in terrible form etc. |
There is no excuse for not beating the team bottom of the table, I would agree.
But that doesn't logically mean McKenna will get the boot on Monday. He's part of a long-term plan.
I'd argue he has plenty of credit in the bank, not least that the football he has overseen has seen our average home crowds climb to levels not seen for 15 years. We're not averaging close to 26,000 because the food stalls in the fanzone have improved, they're coming because the football is (mostly) great to watch. I know that doesn't fit with some narratives but that's a fact.
We were far more successful under Mick (ie: holding our own in the division above) but the fans were deserting the club in their thousands.
The Americans and Ashton will have certainly noticed that. Money talks in many ways. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:13 - Feb 16 with 4513 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:10 - Feb 16 by Bobbychase |
There is no excuse for not beating the team bottom of the table, I would agree.
But that doesn't logically mean McKenna will get the boot on Monday. He's part of a long-term plan.
I'd argue he has plenty of credit in the bank, not least that the football he has overseen has seen our average home crowds climb to levels not seen for 15 years. We're not averaging close to 26,000 because the food stalls in the fanzone have improved, they're coming because the football is (mostly) great to watch. I know that doesn't fit with some narratives but that's a fact.
We were far more successful under Mick (ie: holding our own in the division above) but the fans were deserting the club in their thousands.
The Americans and Ashton will have certainly noticed that. Money talks in many ways. |
The football was much better than we've seen previously, for the first 15 matches of this season, since then, it's been pretty awful, the manager and the fans have been living off the hope of recreating that form we had in the first third of the season, but it doesn't look anywhere near returning currently.
I'm not saying it's right/wrong to sack the manager, but given the MO of Ashton and Gamechanger, I think McKenna is in line for serious trouble if we don't get 3 points on Saturday. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:14 - Feb 16 with 4492 views | Herbivore |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:06 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
Agreed, I reckon you must be sponsored by the Manufacturer |
Yeah, I didn't think you'd be bright enough to grasp that one. | |
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| Nothing to see here... on 15:16 - Feb 16 with 4485 views | MattinLondon |
| Nothing to see here... on 14:59 - Feb 16 by BiGDonnie |
However fear not, half term is over soon. |
You’d think he’ll take advantage of half-term and catch up with his marking. |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:18 - Feb 16 with 4466 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
KM was personally identified and serenaded by Ashton, he wont give up on KM without a fight.
I personally don't think any decisions would be taken until the end of the season, even if the mid table form continues. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:19 - Feb 16 with 4454 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:13 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
The football was much better than we've seen previously, for the first 15 matches of this season, since then, it's been pretty awful, the manager and the fans have been living off the hope of recreating that form we had in the first third of the season, but it doesn't look anywhere near returning currently.
I'm not saying it's right/wrong to sack the manager, but given the MO of Ashton and Gamechanger, I think McKenna is in line for serious trouble if we don't get 3 points on Saturday. |
There have been some poor performances, Cambridge away and much of the first half v Sheff Wed I would agree.
But there are also Burnley at home, Rotherham at home, Oxford at home, Morecambe at home in there. It hasn't been all bad recently. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:22 - Feb 16 with 4433 views | SamWhiteUK |
I'd rather them quiet than come out and say he has their full backing... because that invariably means the manager is offski! |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:24 - Feb 16 with 4424 views | itfcjoe |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:13 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
The football was much better than we've seen previously, for the first 15 matches of this season, since then, it's been pretty awful, the manager and the fans have been living off the hope of recreating that form we had in the first third of the season, but it doesn't look anywhere near returning currently.
I'm not saying it's right/wrong to sack the manager, but given the MO of Ashton and Gamechanger, I think McKenna is in line for serious trouble if we don't get 3 points on Saturday. |
Our last 7 home games have seen 4 wins - Posh, Oxford, Rotherham and Morecambe - and 3 draws - Plymouth, Burnley and Sheff Weds.
The away form has been disappointing, but we've put in 4-5 poor performances in 40 games this season - it just happens that 2-3 of them have been in the last 6-7 games
Even when we've played poorly we've generally done enough to win, but we haven't got it over the line - that seems to be becoming a mental block but it's an absolute folly to suggest the last 15 matches have seen awful performances | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:25 - Feb 16 with 4411 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:19 - Feb 16 by Bobbychase |
There have been some poor performances, Cambridge away and much of the first half v Sheff Wed I would agree.
But there are also Burnley at home, Rotherham at home, Oxford at home, Morecambe at home in there. It hasn't been all bad recently. |
Indeed, there has been the occasional half where we've bucked the trend, which makes the position we find ourselves in more annoying. I'm not sure how much we can take from Rotherham, or Burnley, where all sides concerned made multiple changes to personnel ( though some would argue that we actually fielded a more effective side than our starting league XI).
Oxford was a good win, but Morecambe were the worst team I've seen this season, by a long, long way, our academy sides could probably have won that game. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:26 - Feb 16 with 4380 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:13 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
The football was much better than we've seen previously, for the first 15 matches of this season, since then, it's been pretty awful, the manager and the fans have been living off the hope of recreating that form we had in the first third of the season, but it doesn't look anywhere near returning currently.
I'm not saying it's right/wrong to sack the manager, but given the MO of Ashton and Gamechanger, I think McKenna is in line for serious trouble if we don't get 3 points on Saturday. |
I mean that's just blatantly untrue. Awful since the first 15 games? I'm not sure what you've been watching. | | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:32 - Feb 16 with 4347 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:26 - Feb 16 by mrfixit426 |
I mean that's just blatantly untrue. Awful since the first 15 games? I'm not sure what you've been watching. |
Discounts the wins at Exeter and home v Peterborough which I thought were actually very good performances, aside from the others mentioned. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:32 - Feb 16 with 4338 views | blueislander |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:13 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
The football was much better than we've seen previously, for the first 15 matches of this season, since then, it's been pretty awful, the manager and the fans have been living off the hope of recreating that form we had in the first third of the season, but it doesn't look anywhere near returning currently.
I'm not saying it's right/wrong to sack the manager, but given the MO of Ashton and Gamechanger, I think McKenna is in line for serious trouble if we don't get 3 points on Saturday. |
I am intrigued that you know the MO of Gamechanger and Ashton. Do enlighten us to what it is , and how you have got to that conclusion. |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:33 - Feb 16 with 4353 views | jasondozzell |
John Cobbold, once said, "We don't use chalk to write the manager's name on his office door". |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:34 - Feb 16 with 4336 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:24 - Feb 16 by itfcjoe |
Our last 7 home games have seen 4 wins - Posh, Oxford, Rotherham and Morecambe - and 3 draws - Plymouth, Burnley and Sheff Weds.
The away form has been disappointing, but we've put in 4-5 poor performances in 40 games this season - it just happens that 2-3 of them have been in the last 6-7 games
Even when we've played poorly we've generally done enough to win, but we haven't got it over the line - that seems to be becoming a mental block but it's an absolute folly to suggest the last 15 matches have seen awful performances |
I'm not splitting the home/away games, but certainly the trend of the first third of the season was completely the opposite to the second third (2nd third being better at home, significantly worse away). That's a problem in itself though, isn't it? The generally accepted key to exiting this league, is consistency and we've simply not had it, we've been all over the shop from one match to the next.
I wouldn't agree on the performances, I think we've been pretty bad on many more occasions, several of which saw us escape with a lucky draw, coming from goals behind in the match, where I think we actually deserved to lose. I think it's contradictory to say we've put in a good performance and come away with a point, or no points, when there's only really been a handful of teams that posed a genuine threat to us all season, we've lined our own coffins for much of it, not been playing against fantastic opposition teams. | |
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