| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet 14:45 - Feb 16 with 11923 views | TalkingBlues |
for some time now. We often speak of "must win" games for the team, but I genuinely believe that Saturday is a "must win" for McKenna, anything less than 3 points against FGR and the powers that be start drawing up a list of managerial candidates (if they haven't already). It's the diligent and prudent thing to do, McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked. Our owners are investing a lot of money on and off the pitch and they want results quickly, so will Ashton, before his job comes under scrutiny too. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 14:45]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:36 - Feb 16 with 1177 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:33 - Feb 16 by jasondozzell |
John Cobbold, once said, "We don't use chalk to write the manager's name on his office door". |
Great line from a great man, but we are in a completely different world now I'm afraid  | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:40 - Feb 16 with 1162 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:18 - Feb 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
KM was personally identified and serenaded by Ashton, he wont give up on KM without a fight.
I personally don't think any decisions would be taken until the end of the season, even if the mid table form continues. |
Quite possibly, though a lot of people thought Cook might get longer, sacked after a draw and 11th in the table, but a few disappointing results and he was Gamechangers top target for manager. I'd imagine it depends on what managers are around and nearby transfer windows etc. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:49 - Feb 16 with 1142 views | PioneerBlue |
Load of old rubbish. Almost as if you are revelling in a period of worse than expected performance. I imagine you will be asking for a full written apology from the club soon, manager and players have not met your expectations.
It’s a bad run, it’s worse than hoped for, it’s not all the managers fault, form is worse than playoffs but there is a third of the season left and we are placed for playoffs. The club, players, fans need to ride this out and come through it a bit tougher than they started.
All this chat about sacking KMcK and contingency plans for a leading up and coming coaching team is nonsense. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 15:55]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:51 - Feb 16 with 1137 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:49 - Feb 16 by PioneerBlue |
Load of old rubbish. Almost as if you are revelling in a period of worse than expected performance. I imagine you will be asking for a full written apology from the club soon, manager and players have not met your expectations.
It’s a bad run, it’s worse than hoped for, it’s not all the managers fault, form is worse than playoffs but there is a third of the season left and we are placed for playoffs. The club, players, fans need to ride this out and come through it a bit tougher than they started.
All this chat about sacking KMcK and contingency plans for a leading up and coming coaching team is nonsense. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 15:55]
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You are entitled to your view, but please don’t confuse what I’ve said with a perception of your own design with regards to “revelling” in our poor form, I’d much rather be in automatics, points ahead. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:58 - Feb 16 with 1119 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:51 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
You are entitled to your view, but please don’t confuse what I’ve said with a perception of your own design with regards to “revelling” in our poor form, I’d much rather be in automatics, points ahead. |
We all want to go up top two. We all hate the play offs.
Doesn't mean we think the manager will get the boot.
Remember Lambert never got us anywhere near the top six, and Paul Cook was leading us to mid table as well. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:00 - Feb 16 with 1113 views | PioneerBlue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:51 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
You are entitled to your view, but please don’t confuse what I’ve said with a perception of your own design with regards to “revelling” in our poor form, I’d much rather be in automatics, points ahead. |
The op is by your own design. Inadvertently crying for 3Lions or MA to make a statement. Then indicating a short list should be written of potential new managers in the absence of 3 points this Saturday. Baloney.
Calm yourself down :) You are sounding all panicked. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:08 - Feb 16 with 1094 views | Herbivore |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
I'm not splitting the home/away games, but certainly the trend of the first third of the season was completely the opposite to the second third (2nd third being better at home, significantly worse away). That's a problem in itself though, isn't it? The generally accepted key to exiting this league, is consistency and we've simply not had it, we've been all over the shop from one match to the next.
I wouldn't agree on the performances, I think we've been pretty bad on many more occasions, several of which saw us escape with a lucky draw, coming from goals behind in the match, where I think we actually deserved to lose. I think it's contradictory to say we've put in a good performance and come away with a point, or no points, when there's only really been a handful of teams that posed a genuine threat to us all season, we've lined our own coffins for much of it, not been playing against fantastic opposition teams. |
Which games have we escaped with lucky draws when we deserved to lose, out of interest? |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:09 - Feb 16 with 1090 views | Herbivore |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 15:51 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
You are entitled to your view, but please don’t confuse what I’ve said with a perception of your own design with regards to “revelling” in our poor form, I’d much rather be in automatics, points ahead. |
Yeah but Burnley and Sheffield Untied look too far gone now. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:09 - Feb 16 with 1093 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:08 - Feb 16 by Herbivore |
Which games have we escaped with lucky draws when we deserved to lose, out of interest? |
You beat me to it. I can't think of any games where I've thought we were fortunate to escape with a draw. Or a win. It's always been the other way around. |  | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:10 - Feb 16 with 1093 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:00 - Feb 16 by PioneerBlue |
The op is by your own design. Inadvertently crying for 3Lions or MA to make a statement. Then indicating a short list should be written of potential new managers in the absence of 3 points this Saturday. Baloney.
Calm yourself down :) You are sounding all panicked. |
The OP simply inferred my belief that Ashton and Gamechanger would be put in a position, if we do not achieve 3 points on Saturday, whereby the diligent course of action would be to think about possible successors to McKenna, given our poor run of form and the potential of it continuing. Frankly, I’d be amazed if the group hadn’t already discussed what’s going on and mooted the possibility of change. They took decisive, early action with Cook, after fewer games than our current run, that had actually yielded more points than McKenna has in the period, so why would there would be a different approach with McKenna? It’s a results orientated business. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:17 - Feb 16 with 1074 views | homer_123 |
Pretty sure that promotion this year would be preferred by Gamechanger but they were not banking on it when they took over.
Nothing at all to suggest otherwise. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:18 - Feb 16 with 1070 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:09 - Feb 16 by mrfixit426 |
You beat me to it. I can't think of any games where I've thought we were fortunate to escape with a draw. Or a win. It's always been the other way around. |
Crikey, what games have you two been watching? Do you not remember being 0-2 down in the first half to Wednesday? Do you not remember being lucky not to be 2, 3 or 4 down by half time against Cambridge? Literally, 2 of the last 3 league games we’ve played. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:19 - Feb 16 with 1071 views | Dubtractor |
Stop catastrophising everything, all the bloody time. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:21 - Feb 16 with 1053 views | Herbivore |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:18 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
Crikey, what games have you two been watching? Do you not remember being 0-2 down in the first half to Wednesday? Do you not remember being lucky not to be 2, 3 or 4 down by half time against Cambridge? Literally, 2 of the last 3 league games we’ve played. |
You're not very good at this trolling lark. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:22 - Feb 16 with 1050 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:18 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
Crikey, what games have you two been watching? Do you not remember being 0-2 down in the first half to Wednesday? Do you not remember being lucky not to be 2, 3 or 4 down by half time against Cambridge? Literally, 2 of the last 3 league games we’ve played. |
We battered Sheffield Wednesday in the 2nd half and were unlucky not to win it right at the end.
Cambridge we turned up 2nd half as well and had several really good opportunities to put them away. If the penalty had gone in, it may have been a different story, but not necessarily.
So it seems I was paying more attention than you. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 16:22]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:25 - Feb 16 with 1054 views | BlueBadger |
'McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked.'
Mckenna's win ratio currently stands at 48.4%
Cook's was 29.5%
Lambert 32.7
The conclusion I have come is to is here 'give over, you massive fanny'. |  |
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| Nothing to see here... on 16:28 - Feb 16 with 1019 views | BlueBadger |
| Nothing to see here... on 14:59 - Feb 16 by BiGDonnie |
However fear not, half term is over soon. |
I genuinely don't understand what he gets from this. At least Frimmers is his own original creation(granted, deciding to base your personality around the fact that you once shat yourself in public is A Choice).
I've no idea why the OP, who is definitely not that that wired budge fella returning, has decided he needs to be a tribute act. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 18:14]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:28 - Feb 16 with 1017 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:25 - Feb 16 by BlueBadger |
'McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked.'
Mckenna's win ratio currently stands at 48.4%
Cook's was 29.5%
Lambert 32.7
The conclusion I have come is to is here 'give over, you massive fanny'. |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:30 - Feb 16 with 1003 views | homer_123 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:25 - Feb 16 by BlueBadger |
'McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked.'
Mckenna's win ratio currently stands at 48.4%
Cook's was 29.5%
Lambert 32.7
The conclusion I have come is to is here 'give over, you massive fanny'. |
Facts huh? | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:31 - Feb 16 with 988 views | homer_123 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:22 - Feb 16 by mrfixit426 |
We battered Sheffield Wednesday in the 2nd half and were unlucky not to win it right at the end.
Cambridge we turned up 2nd half as well and had several really good opportunities to put them away. If the penalty had gone in, it may have been a different story, but not necessarily.
So it seems I was paying more attention than you. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 16:22]
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Indeed you were but that narrative doesn't fit his agenda.
But cherry picking that 25 min spell against Wednesday does. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:33 - Feb 16 with 981 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:31 - Feb 16 by homer_123 |
Indeed you were but that narrative doesn't fit his agenda.
But cherry picking that 25 min spell against Wednesday does. |
I mean to be fair, that was a shockingly bad 25 minute spell, but it in no way tells the story of that match. | | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:33 - Feb 16 with 981 views | FrimleyBlue |
I can't imagine we will see any.
But there was a fans forum due soon with Ashton. KM etc.. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:44 - Feb 16 with 968 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:25 - Feb 16 by BlueBadger |
'McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked.'
Mckenna's win ratio currently stands at 48.4%
Cook's was 29.5%
Lambert 32.7
The conclusion I have come is to is here 'give over, you massive fanny'. |
Taken from the EADT article earlier:
""The Blues’ record over the last 15 league games is W4 D9 L2 Pts 21. An average of 1.4 per game is midtable form. For context, 21 points from 15 is fewer than previous managers Paul Cook (23) and Paul Lambert (22) took from their final 15 league games in charge.""
Try putting some positive spin on that. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:45 - Feb 16 with 956 views | blueislander |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:33 - Feb 16 by FrimleyBlue |
I can't imagine we will see any.
But there was a fans forum due soon with Ashton. KM etc.. |
The OP already knows Ashton’s modus operandi so he could tell us what he will say, and save us all the trouble. | | | |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:46 - Feb 16 with 956 views | PioneerBlue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:10 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
The OP simply inferred my belief that Ashton and Gamechanger would be put in a position, if we do not achieve 3 points on Saturday, whereby the diligent course of action would be to think about possible successors to McKenna, given our poor run of form and the potential of it continuing. Frankly, I’d be amazed if the group hadn’t already discussed what’s going on and mooted the possibility of change. They took decisive, early action with Cook, after fewer games than our current run, that had actually yielded more points than McKenna has in the period, so why would there would be a different approach with McKenna? It’s a results orientated business. |
If 3L and MA have become trigger happy because of a 15 game form dip then the club has lost its way dreadfully (again).
I would not be surprised if under the topic of risk, if the group hadn’t discussed in passing during a monthly/quarterly meeting the continued form and it’s impact on likeliness of promotion for this season. I would be a little more surprised if any had been asked to assert their ongoing confidence in the manager and his coaching team, if it was checked around the table I would expect it was met with a raised eyebrow and a unanimous yes vote.
I’m not expecting any comment to this end from 3L or MA whilst we go about securing promotion out of L1 this season.
I would expect in line with how MA operates a supporter debrief at the end for the season irrespective of how it all ends up.
Try and enjoy the rest of the season. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 17:05]
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