| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet 14:45 - Feb 16 with 11924 views | TalkingBlues |
for some time now. We often speak of "must win" games for the team, but I genuinely believe that Saturday is a "must win" for McKenna, anything less than 3 points against FGR and the powers that be start drawing up a list of managerial candidates (if they haven't already). It's the diligent and prudent thing to do, McKenna has had probably as much time and definitely more money at his disposal than previous managers, but has produced a run of results worse than those before him, runs that saw those managers sacked. Our owners are investing a lot of money on and off the pitch and they want results quickly, so will Ashton, before his job comes under scrutiny too. [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 14:45]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:46 - Feb 16 with 1141 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:44 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
Taken from the EADT article earlier:
""The Blues’ record over the last 15 league games is W4 D9 L2 Pts 21. An average of 1.4 per game is midtable form. For context, 21 points from 15 is fewer than previous managers Paul Cook (23) and Paul Lambert (22) took from their final 15 league games in charge.""
Try putting some positive spin on that. |
That we are 4th in the league.
Under Cook and Lambert we were well off 6th place when they were sacked. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:53 - Feb 16 with 1123 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:46 - Feb 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That we are 4th in the league.
Under Cook and Lambert we were well off 6th place when they were sacked. |
They were sacked, because performances had deteriorated and they were slipping down the league table, exactly the same scenario as we have now. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:56 - Feb 16 with 1104 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:53 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
They were sacked, because performances had deteriorated and they were slipping down the league table, exactly the same scenario as we have now. |
Did you deliberately ignore what I posted in response to your question, what is the difference? | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:00 - Feb 16 with 1089 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:56 - Feb 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Did you deliberately ignore what I posted in response to your question, what is the difference? |
There's no difference, form deteriorated and we slipped down the table, that's the point, did you deliberately ignore my response? | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:05 - Feb 16 with 1074 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:00 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
There's no difference, form deteriorated and we slipped down the table, that's the point, did you deliberately ignore my response? |
There is no difference between 4th in the table, 7 points clear of 7th place and being well behind 6th and on poor form?
Now I understand the level of intelligence behind your posting! | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:07 - Feb 16 with 1075 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:17 - Feb 16 by homer_123 |
Pretty sure that promotion this year would be preferred by Gamechanger but they were not banking on it when they took over.
Nothing at all to suggest otherwise. |
Other than Brett Johnson stating in multiple interviews (when we changed ownership) that the immediate target for 2020/2021 was top 6 and promotion by the following season, promotion was 100% the target for this season, especially given the massive investment they've made and all the backing McK has received. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:15 - Feb 16 with 1043 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:05 - Feb 16 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There is no difference between 4th in the table, 7 points clear of 7th place and being well behind 6th and on poor form?
Now I understand the level of intelligence behind your posting! |
When Cook was sacked, we were 11 points off the top of the table.
Currently, we are 8 points off 2nd (who have a game in hand on us) and we are 10 points off top, yeah, I see your point, we are in a completely different scenario to when Cook was sacked. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:19 - Feb 16 with 1039 views | Scuzzer |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:19 - Feb 16 by Dubtractor |
Stop catastrophising everything, all the bloody time. |
But that is the norm nowadays. That's why everything reported in the media suddenly becomes a 'crisis'. It's all very pathetic. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:26 - Feb 16 with 1013 views | BiGDonnie |
Are you telling me that talkingblues is, in fact, talkinsh}te?
Interesting. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:27 - Feb 16 with 1009 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:15 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
When Cook was sacked, we were 11 points off the top of the table.
Currently, we are 8 points off 2nd (who have a game in hand on us) and we are 10 points off top, yeah, I see your point, we are in a completely different scenario to when Cook was sacked. |
We were 4th and 7 points ahead of 7th place? Wow! I really don't recall that. Or are you just persisting in ignoring that clearly stated fact and trolling?
There is a big difference between being 4th and well ahead of 7th place and being outside the top 6 and well off 6th place.
On 4 December 2021, with the team sat in 11th and 7 points adrift of the playoffs, Cook was sacked by the club.
https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-one/04-december-2021/ | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:30 - Feb 16 with 1004 views | textbackup |
I’m pretty sure MA has a list of managers in the same shape as KM, if KM were to be poached away etc.
I very much doubt he’s currently actively looking to replace KM however.
And as disappointing as things have been of late, I’d be pretty annoyed if we got rid of KM at this time. We are a far better footballing team than we have been in many many years, so he still gets my vote as the manager. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 with 975 views | TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:36 - Feb 16 with 957 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. |
So you have made it up. I looked. I found. Your imagination is wrong, hence why you cannot link them either. The interviews exist, your take on them does not. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:39 - Feb 16 with 939 views | jayessess |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:15 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
When Cook was sacked, we were 11 points off the top of the table.
Currently, we are 8 points off 2nd (who have a game in hand on us) and we are 10 points off top, yeah, I see your point, we are in a completely different scenario to when Cook was sacked. |
4th isn't 11th.
57 points in 31 games isn't 27 points from 20 games.
7 points off 6th isn't 4 points ahead of 6th.
An 11-point gap over 20 games isn't a 10-point gap over 31 games.
Stop being daft. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:39 - Feb 16 with 944 views | StokieBlue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. |
That's not how it works, if you've asserted something then you need to provide the evidence, not tell others to go look for it.
A few posters seem to have an issue with this at the moment, making bold assertions and then refusing to back them up or telling others to "do their own research".
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:44 - Feb 16 with 916 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:39 - Feb 16 by jayessess |
4th isn't 11th.
57 points in 31 games isn't 27 points from 20 games.
7 points off 6th isn't 4 points ahead of 6th.
An 11-point gap over 20 games isn't a 10-point gap over 31 games.
Stop being daft. |
57 points in 31 games isn't 27 points from 20 games.
So, if Cook had managed another 11 matches that season he was sacked, he would have needed to have won 10 of them to have the same points total as the position we are in now.
But to talkingblues that is the exact same position.
Daft or trolling. I am wavering much more on the second side of that as he says he is looking at articles that he is unable to link. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:58 - Feb 16 with 880 views | BlueBadger |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:44 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
Taken from the EADT article earlier:
""The Blues’ record over the last 15 league games is W4 D9 L2 Pts 21. An average of 1.4 per game is midtable form. For context, 21 points from 15 is fewer than previous managers Paul Cook (23) and Paul Lambert (22) took from their final 15 league games in charge.""
Try putting some positive spin on that. |
Mckenna has a much better record than his three predecessors. There you go.
You probably thought you sounded quite clever there didn't you, budgie boy? [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 18:04]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:05 - Feb 16 with 877 views | BlueBadger |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:30 - Feb 16 by textbackup |
I’m pretty sure MA has a list of managers in the same shape as KM, if KM were to be poached away etc.
I very much doubt he’s currently actively looking to replace KM however.
And as disappointing as things have been of late, I’d be pretty annoyed if we got rid of KM at this time. We are a far better footballing team than we have been in many many years, so he still gets my vote as the manager. |
Basically this. He's the only one of our post-Mick managers who hasn't offered some guff about having a 'long term plan' but the only one who might actually have one. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:13 - Feb 16 with 861 views | homer_123 |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. |
Here you go - do you have anything that is contrary to that?
https://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/gamechanger20-completes-ipswich-town-takeover/
“We are here to help the club climb the football pyramid. Promotion to the Championship as soon as possible is the immediate aim. It’s possible this season but if it takes another year or so, so be it." [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 18:14]
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:13 - Feb 16 with 856 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. |
TB are you getting them mixed up?
O leary spoke about promotion either this season or next ( when he joined) but that's been the only one I think.
You do have Steeds comment about stop seeing losses and seeing results.. but as pointed out at the team by some of the forum. As he's the money man results to him could literally just be financial results which whilst it will help and be better promoted... High attendances etc even now could be a result in his eyes. |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:38 - Feb 16 with 806 views | BlueBadger |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 16:21 - Feb 16 by Herbivore |
You're not very good at this trolling lark. |
If the purpose of trolling is to make people look angry and/or stupid, he's succeeding marvellously.
In a very specific sense. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:58 - Feb 16 with 771 views | BlueBadger |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:34 - Feb 16 by TalkingBlues |
LMFAO, like everybody on this forum, I can link to thousands of articles that doesn't contain any specific information on a subject , should we choose.
I'm not going to provide the links for you, I want you to go find them yourself, they're out there, I'm looking at them now. |
Link us up, oh oracle.
Otherwise it rather looks like you're making shït up.
Again. | |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 19:03 - Feb 16 with 766 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 17:39 - Feb 16 by StokieBlue |
That's not how it works, if you've asserted something then you need to provide the evidence, not tell others to go look for it.
A few posters seem to have an issue with this at the moment, making bold assertions and then refusing to back them up or telling others to "do their own research".
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"A few posters seem to have an issue with this at the moment". That's a rather bold assertion. Do you have any evidence to back it up?  |  |
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| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 19:07 - Feb 16 with 745 views | TalkingBlues |
| Ashton and our owners have been very quiet on 18:13 - Feb 16 by homer_123 |
Here you go - do you have anything that is contrary to that?
https://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/gamechanger20-completes-ipswich-town-takeover/
“We are here to help the club climb the football pyramid. Promotion to the Championship as soon as possible is the immediate aim. It’s possible this season but if it takes another year or so, so be it." [Post edited 16 Feb 2023 18:14]
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It's a mixture of a few articles, in his very first press conference he says he has a "healthy impatience" and wants promotion "immediately, this season" and they will provide plenty of funds to do so, in later articles that year, he admits that it seems unlikely (after a bad run) and says they want out of the league the following season (at the latest, says 3 seasons in this league is too long) but still holds out hope for the current season etc etc.
The whole gist of all the interviews he gives, is that Gamechanger want promotion yesterday and they are providing the infrastructure and the funds for players to do so "immediately" and they expect to see a return on that investment. We have seen first hand how they deal with a perceived failure to meet expectations (Paul Cook) after only 20 games and I don't see McKenna being treated any differently, this is a terrible run, having received another massive financial handout in January, the return has been a big drop in form and a move down the table, same as Cook. | |
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