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Self-driving bus 21:37 - Apr 4 with 1289 viewsElderGrizzly

Needs two members of staff for safety 🙄

I probably would have chosen a route not across a bloody great big bridge too.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/apr/04/self-driving-buses-to-serve-r
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Self-driving bus on 21:43 - Apr 4 with 1243 viewsNthsuffolkblue

There will come a time when we will question why we ever had an issue with self-driving vehicles.

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Self-driving bus on 21:54 - Apr 4 with 1191 viewsPendejo

So the self driving bus will have a de facto driver and a conductor

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Self-driving bus on 21:55 - Apr 4 with 1185 viewsPendejo

Self-driving bus on 21:43 - Apr 4 by Nthsuffolkblue

There will come a time when we will question why we ever had an issue with self-driving vehicles.


Aeroplanes have been self flying for decades

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Self-driving bus on 21:59 - Apr 4 with 1172 viewsghostofescobar

Self-driving bus on 21:55 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

Aeroplanes have been self flying for decades


Half a dozen or more tube lines are automated. The “drivers” job is basically to open and close the doors.

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Self-driving bus on 22:02 - Apr 4 with 1157 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Self-driving bus on 21:54 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

So the self driving bus will have a de facto driver and a conductor


It appears from the article that having a self-driving bus will enable them to have a conductor once again instead.

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Self-driving bus on 22:11 - Apr 4 with 1117 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Self-driving bus on 21:55 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

Aeroplanes have been self flying for decades


Which makes it remarkable that Unions claim self driving trains are dangerous.
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Self-driving bus on 22:13 - Apr 4 with 1106 viewsNthQldITFC

The one thing that defines the human species is that we don't know when to stop.

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Self-driving bus on 22:19 - Apr 4 with 1090 viewsKropotkin123

Self-driving bus on 21:55 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

Aeroplanes have been self flying for decades


Kind of. There is an auto-pilot, but the pilots do the landing. Would be the equivilent of someone having autopilot for just the motorway and that motorway had no other car on it.

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Self-driving bus on 22:20 - Apr 4 with 1078 viewsHARRY10

Self-driving bus on 21:54 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

So the self driving bus will have a de facto driver and a conductor


for now
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Self-driving bus on 22:22 - Apr 4 with 1083 viewsElderGrizzly

Self-driving bus on 21:55 - Apr 4 by Pendejo

Aeroplanes have been self flying for decades


Yeah, they really aren’t.
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Self-driving bus on 00:16 - Apr 5 with 984 viewsstonojnr

Self-driving bus on 22:19 - Apr 4 by Kropotkin123

Kind of. There is an auto-pilot, but the pilots do the landing. Would be the equivilent of someone having autopilot for just the motorway and that motorway had no other car on it.


planes can autoland, and commercial jets do so when weather conditions make it more hazardous to land with the pilots in control, and so theyre just left maintaining a supervisory role with it, and the system does the whole thing the landing flare, reverse thrust, even the braking and keeps the plane on the centre line of the runway, and can then auto taxi itself to the gate.

in fact they can autoland in zero visibility, but theyre not allowed to because the airport emergency crews need to be able to see the plane, just in case.

the UK actually carried out its autoland experiments at RAF Woodbridge/RAF Martlesham Heath after WW2.
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Self-driving bus on 06:58 - Apr 5 with 877 viewsKropotkin123

Self-driving bus on 00:16 - Apr 5 by stonojnr

planes can autoland, and commercial jets do so when weather conditions make it more hazardous to land with the pilots in control, and so theyre just left maintaining a supervisory role with it, and the system does the whole thing the landing flare, reverse thrust, even the braking and keeps the plane on the centre line of the runway, and can then auto taxi itself to the gate.

in fact they can autoland in zero visibility, but theyre not allowed to because the airport emergency crews need to be able to see the plane, just in case.

the UK actually carried out its autoland experiments at RAF Woodbridge/RAF Martlesham Heath after WW2.


Thanks for correcting

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Self-driving bus on 07:06 - Apr 5 with 865 viewsDanTheMan

Self-driving bus on 00:16 - Apr 5 by stonojnr

planes can autoland, and commercial jets do so when weather conditions make it more hazardous to land with the pilots in control, and so theyre just left maintaining a supervisory role with it, and the system does the whole thing the landing flare, reverse thrust, even the braking and keeps the plane on the centre line of the runway, and can then auto taxi itself to the gate.

in fact they can autoland in zero visibility, but theyre not allowed to because the airport emergency crews need to be able to see the plane, just in case.

the UK actually carried out its autoland experiments at RAF Woodbridge/RAF Martlesham Heath after WW2.


It's also worth mentioning there are conditions when autoland is potentially not suitable.

It's my understanding that most landings are still done manually.

As for automated road vehicles, I'm still not convinced the technology is quite there, especially in cases where the vehicle has to work in more than one area. For a bus that's essentially doing a trained loop, it's a far easier problem to solve.

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Self-driving bus on 07:59 - Apr 5 with 813 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Self-driving bus on 07:06 - Apr 5 by DanTheMan

It's also worth mentioning there are conditions when autoland is potentially not suitable.

It's my understanding that most landings are still done manually.

As for automated road vehicles, I'm still not convinced the technology is quite there, especially in cases where the vehicle has to work in more than one area. For a bus that's essentially doing a trained loop, it's a far easier problem to solve.


There is still the liability aspect before it’s generally rolled out. I.e if an ‘autopilot’ car hits a pedestrian, who is at fault, the ‘driver’, the vehicle manufacturer, or the software company.

No doubt some lawyers will get very wealthy taking the first few cases!
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Self-driving bus on 10:20 - Apr 5 with 726 viewsbrazil1982

Self-driving bus on 22:13 - Apr 4 by NthQldITFC

The one thing that defines the human species is that we don't know when to stop.


Let's hope that bus does.
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Self-driving bus on 10:30 - Apr 5 with 701 viewstivo

Why are you rolling your eyes? Did you expect them to go directly to self driven? Of course it is going to start off with staff members monitoring it, highlighting when it doesn't work as expected and thus being able to take control.

Long term it's great. Imagine if we could reduce the costs of running buses, we would be able to reopen routes, make them more regular, reduce the fees and move people away from personal vehicles.
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Self-driving bus on 10:36 - Apr 5 with 693 viewsSwansea_Blue

Meh. We've been here before with buses that follow side rails (remember that scheme that was in the Kesgrave area years back?). We've had bendy buses here in Swansea that they ripped up the whole city centre for and then after a few years realised they were a waste of money (because they needed a conductor and were gas guzzlers) and ripped up the whole city centre again.

They're always messing about around the edges of buses but nothing changes the actually model of how bus transport works. I'd find it more significant if we were making radical changes towards automated personal transport that didn't rely on roads.

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