| Armin 16:44 - Apr 4 with 2552 views | Hipsterectomy |
Is there a reason Town are releasing him if he's obviously thought of by other clubs?
He wants to leave? |  |
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| Armin on 16:53 - Apr 4 with 2480 views | dirtyboy |
He's having trials.
Most players when released will have a few clubs take a look and see if they are a fit to what they're after. |  | | |
| Armin on 16:54 - Apr 4 with 2462 views | ITFCMonk |
Got a feeling the club decided to release him. Had a very short loan spell at Braintree and wasn’t rated after pre-season. |  |
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| Armin on 17:12 - Apr 4 with 2367 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Was it his dad who often used to be on Twitter bigging him up and saying he should be in the first team picture a couple of years ago?!
If so, coukd be agent / parent pressure making him want to explore ‘Bigger’ clubs? |  | | |
| Armin on 17:13 - Apr 4 with 2349 views | SitfcB |
There was a thread on here last week about a load of U21 players being let go. |  |
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| Armin on 17:17 - Apr 4 with 2323 views | portmanking |
I think there's a sense that the current crop of U21s needs thinning out significantly to give the U18s/16s the room to grow into senior football. Current depth of the U21 setup is creating a bit of a bottleneck. |  | | |
| Armin on 10:05 - Apr 5 with 1890 views | Sharkey |
In all the photos (probably a year or two old), he looks very 'spindly' for a defender. Has he filled out at all?
(In a rare moment of positivity, a Colchester Utd facebook site is wondering if he could be on his way home.) |  | | |
| Armin on 10:10 - Apr 5 with 1859 views | PhilTWTD |
| Armin on 10:05 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
In all the photos (probably a year or two old), he looks very 'spindly' for a defender. Has he filled out at all?
(In a rare moment of positivity, a Colchester Utd facebook site is wondering if he could be on his way home.) |
Photo we used was from the Portsmouth Papa Johns game, so earlier this season. Physically, he's probably still to develop, but he's 18 so he has time for that.
Club is being more ruthless on development squad players, I've got some quotes from Mark Ashton from a couple of weeks ago on the thinking for when they announce the release, which is most of them. Essentially, the feeling is that the previous management held onto young players for too long for fear of them coming back to bite them on the bum by going elsewhere and being successful. |  | | |
| Armin on 10:17 - Apr 5 with 1786 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Armin on 10:10 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD |
Photo we used was from the Portsmouth Papa Johns game, so earlier this season. Physically, he's probably still to develop, but he's 18 so he has time for that.
Club is being more ruthless on development squad players, I've got some quotes from Mark Ashton from a couple of weeks ago on the thinking for when they announce the release, which is most of them. Essentially, the feeling is that the previous management held onto young players for too long for fear of them coming back to bite them on the bum by going elsewhere and being successful. |
"Essentially, the feeling is that the previous management held onto young players for too long for fear of them coming back to bite them on the bum by going elsewhere and being successful."
Ah, the old "Jordan Rhodes" paradox |  |
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| Armin on 10:22 - Apr 5 with 1727 views | PhilTWTD |
| Armin on 10:17 - Apr 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"Essentially, the feeling is that the previous management held onto young players for too long for fear of them coming back to bite them on the bum by going elsewhere and being successful."
Ah, the old "Jordan Rhodes" paradox |
Sort of, although I think they mean players like Armin who are a fair way from the first team. He's probably not the textbook example of what they mean, I think that refers more to players who are into their early 20s and not really anywhere near the first team. Zanda Siziba, for example, who recently joined Yeovil, is 20 soon, for example, and wasn't really that close to the first team. | | | |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 with 1654 views | Sharkey |
| Armin on 10:22 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD |
Sort of, although I think they mean players like Armin who are a fair way from the first team. He's probably not the textbook example of what they mean, I think that refers more to players who are into their early 20s and not really anywhere near the first team. Zanda Siziba, for example, who recently joined Yeovil, is 20 soon, for example, and wasn't really that close to the first team. |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? | | | |
| Armin on 10:45 - Apr 5 with 1602 views | BondiBlue |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? |
Matt Upson? | |
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| Armin on 10:48 - Apr 5 with 1581 views | xrayspecs |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? |
Hourihane has had a good career after leaving us. Not sure if he was in the academy or joined us as a young pro. | | | |
| Armin on 10:50 - Apr 5 with 1571 views | xrayspecs |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? |
Richard Keogh | | | |
| Armin on 10:52 - Apr 5 with 1559 views | PhilTWTD |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? |
Perhaps what instigated the concern, but there have been a few over the years, Ryan Bennett is another.
Although they were both released at 16, like Keogh.
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| Armin on 10:52 - Apr 5 with 1552 views | PhilTWTD |
| Armin on 10:48 - Apr 5 by xrayspecs |
Hourihane has had a good career after leaving us. Not sure if he was in the academy or joined us as a young pro. |
Followed Roy Keane from Sunderland. | | | |
| Armin on 10:53 - Apr 5 with 1547 views | Guthrum |
| Armin on 10:10 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD |
Photo we used was from the Portsmouth Papa Johns game, so earlier this season. Physically, he's probably still to develop, but he's 18 so he has time for that.
Club is being more ruthless on development squad players, I've got some quotes from Mark Ashton from a couple of weeks ago on the thinking for when they announce the release, which is most of them. Essentially, the feeling is that the previous management held onto young players for too long for fear of them coming back to bite them on the bum by going elsewhere and being successful. |
Presumably also, with a bit more transfer money available, there is less urgency about getting every last drop of potential out of the Youth system as a feed for the senior squad? |  |
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| Armin on 11:08 - Apr 5 with 1457 views | Herbivore |
| Armin on 10:22 - Apr 5 by PhilTWTD |
Sort of, although I think they mean players like Armin who are a fair way from the first team. He's probably not the textbook example of what they mean, I think that refers more to players who are into their early 20s and not really anywhere near the first team. Zanda Siziba, for example, who recently joined Yeovil, is 20 soon, for example, and wasn't really that close to the first team. |
I guess with someone like Armin who is likely to end up as a left sided CB(?) he's already got Baggott ahead of him at a similar age and then possibly Ndaba too if we persevere with him. That's a lot of traffic to get through and there's not the kind of money around below the Prem and those with parachute money for it to be worth us keeping him in the hope we get a fee if someone wants to take a punt on him. |  |
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| Armin on 11:41 - Apr 5 with 1331 views | catch74 |
| Armin on 10:38 - Apr 5 by Sharkey |
Is Nick Pope actually the only example of 'one who got away'? |
Not sure we should have let Gibbs go to Norwich, he’s played a bit this season without setting the world on fire. Think Klug rated him highly, unless I’m mixing him up with someone else. |  |
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| Armin on 11:45 - Apr 5 with 1251 views | PhilTWTD |
| Armin on 11:41 - Apr 5 by catch74 |
Not sure we should have let Gibbs go to Norwich, he’s played a bit this season without setting the world on fire. Think Klug rated him highly, unless I’m mixing him up with someone else. |
Gibbs is a bit different as he turned down the offer of a contract. Club basically made a bit of a mess of it. Initial deal didn't have an option year, then they didn't get back to him for an age after the contract was turned down, then the takeover happened and he wasn't top of the priorities. | | | |
| Armin on 11:55 - Apr 5 with 1206 views | NthQldITFC |
| Armin on 10:53 - Apr 5 by Guthrum |
Presumably also, with a bit more transfer money available, there is less urgency about getting every last drop of potential out of the Youth system as a feed for the senior squad? |
My gut feel is that that extra money = lack of pressure to deliver on the youth system, and that by thinning out a bit more ruthlessly you create a better environment for a more elite youth system and a bttter chance of some really good youth players coming through. What you said, really. |  |
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