| This is a poser for the French FA 16:14 - Jun 3 with 3789 views | gainsboroughblue |
Bordeaux-Rodez abandoned after Bordeaux fan attacked a Rodez player. Rodez one up at the time.
Bordeaux needed a win to go up. Rodez a win to stay up. All other games have been played and the season is 'over.'
What to do?
It's Rodez I feel for in this situation.
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:24 - Jun 3 with 3715 views | Freddies_Ears |
Natural justice would award the game 1-0 to Rodez, but that would be open to legal challenge, surely. Resumption at 0-1 would be next best option. Oh, and make Bordeaux play BCD for a few games too... |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:27 - Jun 3 with 3708 views | gainsboroughblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:24 - Jun 3 by Freddies_Ears |
Natural justice would award the game 1-0 to Rodez, but that would be open to legal challenge, surely. Resumption at 0-1 would be next best option. Oh, and make Bordeaux play BCD for a few games too... |
If it wasn't last game of the season, the awarding to Rodez would've seemed logical but there would rightly be uproar from the team who would go down in their place.
Unless Bordeaux get demoted as a result. Extreme but a hell of a message! Resume at 0-1 behind closed doors would be my choice I guess. [Post edited 3 Jun 2023 16:27]
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:39 - Jun 3 with 3656 views | HighgateBlue |
I'd be interested to know what the applicable rules say. But media outlets are notoriously bad at informing us of this (accurately), and the BBC haven't bothered to try.
I would imagine that the relevant decision maker has a discretion as to what to do, but how broad that discretion is, what options are open to them, and what tests they are obliged to apply appear to be opaque. |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:44 - Jun 3 with 3633 views | J2BLUE |
Bordeaux need to win by 5 to go up.
Restart from 0-1 behind closed doors.
Edit: Realised 4 go down, not 3. [Post edited 3 Jun 2023 16:46]
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:10 - Jun 3 with 3532 views | ONENIL78 |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:39 - Jun 3 by HighgateBlue |
I'd be interested to know what the applicable rules say. But media outlets are notoriously bad at informing us of this (accurately), and the BBC haven't bothered to try.
I would imagine that the relevant decision maker has a discretion as to what to do, but how broad that discretion is, what options are open to them, and what tests they are obliged to apply appear to be opaque. |
BBC wont report it as it dosnt involve any the the top 6 in the english prem [Post edited 3 Jun 2023 17:14]
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:17 - Jun 3 with 3485 views | Swansea_Blue |
What should happen is any team whose fans attack an opposing player forfeits the match, whatever the score when the game is stopped. It might focus the minds of some idiotic fans then. |  |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:27 - Jun 3 with 3438 views | Ftnfwest |
Would have thought there must be a law to cover it but if it’s replayed from the point it stopped, where’s the punishment? Some BCD games yes but you have a chance to play a game and achieve a result and if your fans prevent that, tough. |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:37 - Jun 3 with 3413 views | gainsboroughblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:27 - Jun 3 by Ftnfwest |
Would have thought there must be a law to cover it but if it’s replayed from the point it stopped, where’s the punishment? Some BCD games yes but you have a chance to play a game and achieve a result and if your fans prevent that, tough. |
The situation isn't as straight forward as that. Fair enough punishing Bordeaux but the wider picture is this complicates things for the teams around Rodez at the bottom who've done nothing wrong. | |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:41 - Jun 3 with 3393 views | Ftnfwest |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:37 - Jun 3 by gainsboroughblue |
The situation isn't as straight forward as that. Fair enough punishing Bordeaux but the wider picture is this complicates things for the teams around Rodez at the bottom who've done nothing wrong. |
Shame it wasn’t foggy, the ref could have made up a rule and blown for full time! | | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 18:18 - Jun 3 with 3329 views | Clapham_Junction |
While it's unacceptable for fans to do this, Rodez are absolutely milking it. The player got shoved. There is no way he needed stretching off or had concussion.
Some French fans don't seem overly impressed.
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 18:58 - Jun 3 with 3257 views | gainsboroughblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 18:18 - Jun 3 by Clapham_Junction |
While it's unacceptable for fans to do this, Rodez are absolutely milking it. The player got shoved. There is no way he needed stretching off or had concussion.
Some French fans don't seem overly impressed.
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That almost looked choreographed from a drama school. Not quite the image I had in my head of what happened. The guy had a camera round his neck, looked like he was already over the perimeter boards and just looked a bit, well, suspect! | |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:09 - Jun 3 with 3204 views | Naylorsrightboot |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:39 - Jun 3 by HighgateBlue |
I'd be interested to know what the applicable rules say. But media outlets are notoriously bad at informing us of this (accurately), and the BBC haven't bothered to try.
I would imagine that the relevant decision maker has a discretion as to what to do, but how broad that discretion is, what options are open to them, and what tests they are obliged to apply appear to be opaque. |
The BBC are too busy trying to find the next angle to dis the Tory party. |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:16 - Jun 3 with 3189 views | stonojnr |
so what youre saying is some pitch invasions are bad and can have repercussions ? | | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:41 - Jun 3 with 3135 views | gainsboroughblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:16 - Jun 3 by stonojnr |
so what youre saying is some pitch invasions are bad and can have repercussions ? |
Oh God. I've started a pitch invasion thread. Partly unwittingly. | |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 20:50 - Jun 3 with 2996 views | Freddies_Ears |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:09 - Jun 3 by Naylorsrightboot |
The BBC are too busy trying to find the next angle to dis the Tory party. |
You spell "Labour" wrong. | | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 21:09 - Jun 3 with 2949 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:17 - Jun 3 by Swansea_Blue |
What should happen is any team whose fans attack an opposing player forfeits the match, whatever the score when the game is stopped. It might focus the minds of some idiotic fans then. |
I would suggest a 3-0 award of the match would not be unreasonable.
There is an element that it is the actions of one individual fan but a serious consequence for a serious offence seems fairly reasonable.
I don't think a blanket rule can be set, though. What if a 3-0 result was needed and the attack happened at 1-0 with plenty of time to play?
Whatever happens, there have to be serious consequences for the fan (presumably they are facing legal action) but also some consequence for the club. |  |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 21:16 - Jun 3 with 2935 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 18:18 - Jun 3 by Clapham_Junction |
While it's unacceptable for fans to do this, Rodez are absolutely milking it. The player got shoved. There is no way he needed stretching off or had concussion.
Some French fans don't seem overly impressed.
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He hit his head on the ground. One wonders if the concussion protocol would have seen him subbed if it had been different circumstances. Ultimately the referee made the decision to call the match off on the basis he had been concussed. Would be difficult for the referee to do anything other than accept a doctor's assessment. | |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 21:47 - Jun 3 with 2881 views | jaykay |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:09 - Jun 3 by Naylorsrightboot |
The BBC are too busy trying to find the next angle to dis the Tory party. |
no need for the bbc to look for a angle the tories hand it to them on a plate |  |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 21:50 - Jun 3 with 2867 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 17:17 - Jun 3 by Swansea_Blue |
What should happen is any team whose fans attack an opposing player forfeits the match, whatever the score when the game is stopped. It might focus the minds of some idiotic fans then. |
Nope. Forfeit it 3-0, else sides that need a draw to stay up will be getting pitch invasions. |  |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 22:19 - Jun 3 with 2825 views | Churchman |
Relegate Bordeaux from the existing division for the assault. Relegate Rodez from the existing division for milking it.
Throw Man City out of the Champions League final because without the English starting and exporting football violence this would never have happened. Relegate Norwich City because, well, life isn’t fair and the thought of Delia going berserk and Look East exploding amuses me.. |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 00:06 - Jun 4 with 2765 views | BigCommon |
Play the remaining time at 0-1, without Bordeax fans. But allow Rodez fans in.
And amend the rule book, for future, such incidents.
Always hard to justify punishing the entire club, for the behaviour of one individual, imo. Although you'd think some kind of hard precedent should be set on Bordeax, once the match result and league positions are finalised. |  | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 04:32 - Jun 4 with 2713 views | charlie1 |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:16 - Jun 3 by stonojnr |
so what youre saying is some pitch invasions are bad and can have repercussions ? |
He was just enjoying the moment.
Can’t believe that there are some puritanical bedwetters who would condemn this….. | | | |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 19:56 - Jun 4 with 2334 views | southnorfolkblue |
| This is a poser for the French FA on 16:27 - Jun 3 by gainsboroughblue |
If it wasn't last game of the season, the awarding to Rodez would've seemed logical but there would rightly be uproar from the team who would go down in their place.
Unless Bordeaux get demoted as a result. Extreme but a hell of a message! Resume at 0-1 behind closed doors would be my choice I guess. [Post edited 3 Jun 2023 16:27]
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Never going to happen with over an hour to play. Replay the game behind closed doors is the most likely option. | |
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| This is a poser for the French FA on 01:04 - Jun 5 with 2187 views | TresBonne |
Carried off on a stretcher after that?
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