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I'm in a YouTube spiral 01:12 - Jul 28 with 2533 viewsLord_Lucan

It saddens me in a way that I am now so old and that da yoof might not know much about Brian Clough.

I think Mark Crossley sets the tone


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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 01:40 - Jul 28 with 2464 viewsgainsboroughblue

Saw his last ever game as manager at PR, as well as many clashes with Forest before.

Some great videos knocking about on YT when he was one of the studio pundits for various world cups along with Brian Moore, Denis Law etc.

A true one off.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 03:21 - Jul 28 with 2397 viewsIllinoisblue

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 01:40 - Jul 28 by gainsboroughblue

Saw his last ever game as manager at PR, as well as many clashes with Forest before.

Some great videos knocking about on YT when he was one of the studio pundits for various world cups along with Brian Moore, Denis Law etc.

A true one off.
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Can you imagine the uproar if a manager did what he did and slapped fans around the head who were on the pitch. The contrived outrage would blow up social media.

This clip of him talking about his kids and grandkids always gets me


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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 04:55 - Jul 28 with 2353 viewsChurchman

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 01:40 - Jul 28 by gainsboroughblue

Saw his last ever game as manager at PR, as well as many clashes with Forest before.

Some great videos knocking about on YT when he was one of the studio pundits for various world cups along with Brian Moore, Denis Law etc.

A true one off.
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I was at that game too. I was in the lower West Stand (Pioneer), so saw him reasonably close up. God, he looked unwell.

He was very much of his time. Unique and never quite as effective without Peter Taylor as his sidekick. His record speaks for itself.

Forest played at PR midweek after they won the old First Division in 78. They were given a standing ovation as they came out and promptly played us off the pitch 2-0. We had a few players out in the run up to the Cup Final, but boy that Forest team were good.

Back to Clough himself, for those who’ve not seen it The Damned United is worth a watch. It’s not 100% accurate, as films rarely are, but I think it captures the essence of him.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 07:52 - Jul 28 with 2123 viewsFrankfurtBlue

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 04:55 - Jul 28 by Churchman

I was at that game too. I was in the lower West Stand (Pioneer), so saw him reasonably close up. God, he looked unwell.

He was very much of his time. Unique and never quite as effective without Peter Taylor as his sidekick. His record speaks for itself.

Forest played at PR midweek after they won the old First Division in 78. They were given a standing ovation as they came out and promptly played us off the pitch 2-0. We had a few players out in the run up to the Cup Final, but boy that Forest team were good.

Back to Clough himself, for those who’ve not seen it The Damned United is worth a watch. It’s not 100% accurate, as films rarely are, but I think it captures the essence of him.
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Concur with all of that. Was in the West Stand for both the games you mentioned. We applauded Cloughie on his way to and from the dugouts, but I couldn't help thinking he looked a shadow of the person he once was.

If the FA had ever had the balls to appoint him England manager, you do have to wonder what might have been.......anything between a Leeds and a Forest outcome, I guess.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 08:02 - Jul 28 with 2085 viewsMetal_Hacker

One thing I'll never for get about Cloughie was that I worked in a pub in my home city of Nottingham during my yoof for about 6 months (owned by Larry Lloyd ex Forest centre half for those not old enough to know) and a big group of the old players were having a night out starting at Larry's pub

I'm obviously star struck at the time seeing the likes of John Robertson , Archie Gemmill and the like stood right in front of me drinking away. As the night went on it got a little loud and to be fair a lot of the old lot weren't the most polite but anyway things were just getting a little rowdy with lots of swearing and banter being shouted about and there became this "do you know who I am ?" sort of atmosphere between the players and the other customers in the pub

Long story short in walked Cloughie !!!! I have never seen a room change it's atmosphere quite as quick. There was an apparent regard for his presence as soon as he walked in the pub from the ex players and everything changed. The swearing had stopped , the boisterous banter and the over drinking were soon curtailed. A really weird and quite obvious situation

Cloughie didn't stay long - the rest is history with Larry having to put Robbo in a taxi home

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 08:16 - Jul 28 with 2033 viewsnodge_blue

That’s a coincidence. I was only yesterday showing my son on YT the interview between cough and don revie that was on Yorkshire tv. That would never happe these days.

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:17 - Jul 28 with 1893 viewsLord_Lucan

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 08:16 - Jul 28 by nodge_blue

That’s a coincidence. I was only yesterday showing my son on YT the interview between cough and don revie that was on Yorkshire tv. That would never happe these days.


I also watched the Revie interview again last night.

What a lot of people don't realise (and I was too young to have seen him play) was that he was a top footballer whose goalscoring record was unbelievable.

I remember his last game at PR as well as others on this thread, If I remember correctly we all went on the pitch and clapped the Forest fans, or was that when they won the league? Memory fades.

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:33 - Jul 28 with 1856 viewsronnyd

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 08:02 - Jul 28 by Metal_Hacker

One thing I'll never for get about Cloughie was that I worked in a pub in my home city of Nottingham during my yoof for about 6 months (owned by Larry Lloyd ex Forest centre half for those not old enough to know) and a big group of the old players were having a night out starting at Larry's pub

I'm obviously star struck at the time seeing the likes of John Robertson , Archie Gemmill and the like stood right in front of me drinking away. As the night went on it got a little loud and to be fair a lot of the old lot weren't the most polite but anyway things were just getting a little rowdy with lots of swearing and banter being shouted about and there became this "do you know who I am ?" sort of atmosphere between the players and the other customers in the pub

Long story short in walked Cloughie !!!! I have never seen a room change it's atmosphere quite as quick. There was an apparent regard for his presence as soon as he walked in the pub from the ex players and everything changed. The swearing had stopped , the boisterous banter and the over drinking were soon curtailed. A really weird and quite obvious situation

Cloughie didn't stay long - the rest is history with Larry having to put Robbo in a taxi home


Yes, i remember Larry Lloyd. Harry Maguire reminds me of him. Absolute beast of a defender. Lloyd that is.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:39 - Jul 28 with 1836 viewsKeno

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:33 - Jul 28 by ronnyd

Yes, i remember Larry Lloyd. Harry Maguire reminds me of him. Absolute beast of a defender. Lloyd that is.


Can you imagine him and Kenny Burns as a centre back pairing nowadays?

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:46 - Jul 28 with 1814 viewsnodge_blue

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:17 - Jul 28 by Lord_Lucan

I also watched the Revie interview again last night.

What a lot of people don't realise (and I was too young to have seen him play) was that he was a top footballer whose goalscoring record was unbelievable.

I remember his last game at PR as well as others on this thread, If I remember correctly we all went on the pitch and clapped the Forest fans, or was that when they won the league? Memory fades.


We also watched the damned united YT clip of the interview which was highly edited and somewhat changed. But my son was amazed. He thought it sounded like it was a made up sketch like from Ted Lasso.

Clough clearly tried to do everything slightly unconventional. Turning up for the Trevor Francis signing with his squash gear still on and his squash racket in hand. But it's all like subliminal messages. Saying to TF you're good but let's settle down here, you've interrupted my squash game.

But at Leeds he clearly upset the apple cart too much.

I remember his last game at PR. But at the time I think I was playing Saturday football more than regularly watching it.

Only time I went on the pitch was the promotion year in 91. When I bumped into a policeman on the pitch who I used to work with before he joined up. He said hello!

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:46 - Jul 28 with 1813 viewsronnyd

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:39 - Jul 28 by Keno

Can you imagine him and Kenny Burns as a centre back pairing nowadays?

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Norman Hunter
Chopper Harris


Those you mentioned, and more besides, wouldn't have had a career in football these days.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:49 - Jul 28 with 1795 viewsKeno

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:46 - Jul 28 by ronnyd

Those you mentioned, and more besides, wouldn't have had a career in football these days.


some CB's could have adapted, Kevin Beattie, Bobby Moore spring to mind

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:51 - Jul 28 with 1785 viewsGlasgowBlue

This is essential viewing.



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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 10:01 - Jul 28 with 1761 viewsurbanblue

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 04:55 - Jul 28 by Churchman

I was at that game too. I was in the lower West Stand (Pioneer), so saw him reasonably close up. God, he looked unwell.

He was very much of his time. Unique and never quite as effective without Peter Taylor as his sidekick. His record speaks for itself.

Forest played at PR midweek after they won the old First Division in 78. They were given a standing ovation as they came out and promptly played us off the pitch 2-0. We had a few players out in the run up to the Cup Final, but boy that Forest team were good.

Back to Clough himself, for those who’ve not seen it The Damned United is worth a watch. It’s not 100% accurate, as films rarely are, but I think it captures the essence of him.
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Even better read the book 'The Damned United' by David Peace on which the film was based ... A great read as it also goes into his thoughts which the film couldn't do.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:44 - Jul 28 with 1633 viewsMisterBlue

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 10:01 - Jul 28 by urbanblue

Even better read the book 'The Damned United' by David Peace on which the film was based ... A great read as it also goes into his thoughts which the film couldn't do.


Not sure if it was the book or the film, but didn’t the Clough family attempt legal action against its release?
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:47 - Jul 28 with 1606 viewsBluefields

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:46 - Jul 28 by ronnyd

Those you mentioned, and more besides, wouldn't have had a career in football these days.


All of those were very technical players who would've comfortably adapted the modern game.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:54 - Jul 28 with 1595 viewschicoazul

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:46 - Jul 28 by ronnyd

Those you mentioned, and more besides, wouldn't have had a career in football these days.


Woof, cannot disagree more. Imagine those players with modern nutrition training boots pitches etc. they’d be worth £50m each!

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 12:01 - Jul 28 with 1561 viewsJ4ck22

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:44 - Jul 28 by MisterBlue

Not sure if it was the book or the film, but didn’t the Clough family attempt legal action against its release?


I'm pretty sure it was the book that was considered pretty libelous. The film toned a lot of that down, mind you the Leeds players from back then still weren't very happy about it from what I can remember.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 12:05 - Jul 28 with 1547 viewsFifeITFC


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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 12:30 - Jul 28 with 1485 viewsjontysnut

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 12:01 - Jul 28 by J4ck22

I'm pretty sure it was the book that was considered pretty libelous. The film toned a lot of that down, mind you the Leeds players from back then still weren't very happy about it from what I can remember.


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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 13:22 - Jul 28 with 1382 viewsronnyd

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:47 - Jul 28 by Bluefields

All of those were very technical players who would've comfortably adapted the modern game.


I was more alluding to how they played at the time, not how they could be now. It goes without saying that football has changed from those days. The advance in pitch technology has helped in that. When the pitches were like ploughed fields they could be partly blamed for the odd overzealous tackle.
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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 13:23 - Jul 28 with 1369 viewsKeno

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 11:54 - Jul 28 by chicoazul

Woof, cannot disagree more. Imagine those players with modern nutrition training boots pitches etc. they’d be worth £50m each!


as long as they adapted to the modern game, especially the changes in tackling

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I'm in a YouTube spiral on 13:40 - Jul 28 with 1348 viewsChurchman

I'm in a YouTube spiral on 09:17 - Jul 28 by Lord_Lucan

I also watched the Revie interview again last night.

What a lot of people don't realise (and I was too young to have seen him play) was that he was a top footballer whose goalscoring record was unbelievable.

I remember his last game at PR as well as others on this thread, If I remember correctly we all went on the pitch and clapped the Forest fans, or was that when they won the league? Memory fades.


No, nobody went on the pitch when they won the league. The season was still going and it was an evening game. We did after Clough’s last game which was also our last game of that season. There was an awful lot of respect shown towards him, which he appreciated.

His playing career was wrecked by injury, but his record until then was extraordinary. Could Clough have managed England? If the old FA duffers had left him alone, I believe he could. Some of the names of the time wouldn’t have liked it, but one of the good things about Clough was that he never cared what anyone thought if he believed he was right, i.e. most of the time!

With regard to players of old, most would have adapted very well to the modern game. Kenny Burns was an animal, but he could also play. So could all the heathens that played for Leeds. Hunter and Beattie didn’t exactly take any nonsense and they could both play in their different ways.
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