| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it 21:06 - Jul 19 with 2800 views | FrimleyBlue |
As it stands. The squads weaker than last season in numbers.
In quality. We've added potential for sure but immediate and ready quality I'm not entirely sure as yet.. delap for example has the attributes but is he still a bit raw? Johnson I can't say I know to much about but a versatile option is always good and he does come with a bit of prem and European experience so that's a big plus.
I do like the new keeper I think he'll become a legend at the club.
Hutch we already know so I won't say he's new quality.
We've lost sarmiento so that's a weak point on our left
CM Is very light.
Defence. LB cover needed
CB think we are OK here altho maybe still an older head to come in I'm insure.
I do think we need a couple of wow signings. I don't mean a Messi of course. But two which really do make you think we are taking this league on.
At the moment it feels as if we are protecting our future a bit rather than taking it to the prem which Ashton mentioned.
Plenty of time so this isn't a concern post which I'm historically known for doing. It's more of an appreciation of how busy this next 4 weeks is going to be.
Exciting yet rather nerving at the same time.
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:27 - Jul 19 with 2715 views | NthQldITFC |
As far as immediate quality goes, I think all players have a performance window, and a development window. The performance window is what they are capable of now, consistently, with their worst likely performance at the bottom and their best at the top. KMc seems to have an uncanny knack of getting players to perform consistently close to the top of their performance window.
The new boys performance window looks generally to me to be top end Championship to mid Prem quality, with Hutch and Greaves possibly a little higher still. So add in Leif, Burns, Morsy and you've already got 7+ players who I reckon will be playing at mid table-ish quality - then some of our weaknesses drop us down to say 16th to 18th at a guess.
Then add in a couple more similar quality signings AND factor in the development window (i.e. the window that each player's performance window can move up to with quality coaching) and you've got something, optimistically, close to (lower?) mid-table quality perhaps by mid season. Injuries and depth of quality squad might be the problem.
Further anal-analogy > If the performance window is the bottom half of a closed sash window, a great coach will be able to fully open the window so that the bottom half is totally overlapping the top (we all know how sticky sash windows can be, especially in Norfolk where they tend to be fully jammed or just boarded up).
- Not the best day to be bullsh!tting so much about Windows, uponreflection. |  |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:29 - Jul 19 with 2683 views | FrimleyBlue |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:27 - Jul 19 by NthQldITFC |
As far as immediate quality goes, I think all players have a performance window, and a development window. The performance window is what they are capable of now, consistently, with their worst likely performance at the bottom and their best at the top. KMc seems to have an uncanny knack of getting players to perform consistently close to the top of their performance window.
The new boys performance window looks generally to me to be top end Championship to mid Prem quality, with Hutch and Greaves possibly a little higher still. So add in Leif, Burns, Morsy and you've already got 7+ players who I reckon will be playing at mid table-ish quality - then some of our weaknesses drop us down to say 16th to 18th at a guess.
Then add in a couple more similar quality signings AND factor in the development window (i.e. the window that each player's performance window can move up to with quality coaching) and you've got something, optimistically, close to (lower?) mid-table quality perhaps by mid season. Injuries and depth of quality squad might be the problem.
Further anal-analogy > If the performance window is the bottom half of a closed sash window, a great coach will be able to fully open the window so that the bottom half is totally overlapping the top (we all know how sticky sash windows can be, especially in Norfolk where they tend to be fully jammed or just boarded up).
- Not the best day to be bullsh!tting so much about Windows, uponreflection. |
Absolutely superb reply! | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:40 - Jul 19 with 2593 views | burnbudgiesburn |
We'll get 5-6 more new faces by the time the season kicks off so no worries. We essentially started -1 due to Hutchinson not being our player and so we've done well to get him against many people expectations. Burnley and the Blades were nobbled before the season even started due to losing their best players/loans not joining.
I don't see us signing 'prem ready stars' in all honesty. Wages will be beyond us, we'll have to do this the Ipswich way.
Although you aren't I do wonder how early the worriers will appear this season. Tomorrows friendlies are against a Europa league team who have already played 6 preseason games and we could well lose both comfortably. Just hope those folks remember us losing to Cambridge & Stevenage pre-season on the same day almost exactly a year ago. |  | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:41 - Jul 19 with 2579 views | Vic |
I doubt we’ll get any ‘wow’ signings now - at least on a perm. |  |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:49 - Jul 19 with 2546 views | MK1 |
Muric is an upgrade. Johnson is an upgrade at RB, without a doubt. Greaves gives us a much more solid looking CB option. Delap I think will give us a real threat up front. I think we have upgraded considerably already, but as you say, still work to do. A couple in CM and I feel that we have a much improved squad. (depending if any others leave or not) Our bench will be stacked with last seasons starters, so very good early work by all concerned. |  |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:58 - Jul 19 with 2490 views | southnorfolkblue |
Think you're being overly negative tbh. Numbers may be down but the window has plenty of time left in it. As for the quality I would say that every addition, with the possible exception of Delap, is a significant upgrade on what we already had. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:06 - Jul 19 with 2448 views | WeWereZombies |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:27 - Jul 19 by NthQldITFC |
As far as immediate quality goes, I think all players have a performance window, and a development window. The performance window is what they are capable of now, consistently, with their worst likely performance at the bottom and their best at the top. KMc seems to have an uncanny knack of getting players to perform consistently close to the top of their performance window.
The new boys performance window looks generally to me to be top end Championship to mid Prem quality, with Hutch and Greaves possibly a little higher still. So add in Leif, Burns, Morsy and you've already got 7+ players who I reckon will be playing at mid table-ish quality - then some of our weaknesses drop us down to say 16th to 18th at a guess.
Then add in a couple more similar quality signings AND factor in the development window (i.e. the window that each player's performance window can move up to with quality coaching) and you've got something, optimistically, close to (lower?) mid-table quality perhaps by mid season. Injuries and depth of quality squad might be the problem.
Further anal-analogy > If the performance window is the bottom half of a closed sash window, a great coach will be able to fully open the window so that the bottom half is totally overlapping the top (we all know how sticky sash windows can be, especially in Norfolk where they tend to be fully jammed or just boarded up).
- Not the best day to be bullsh!tting so much about Windows, uponreflection. |
I think we need to be looking to recruit from Serie A, specifically from a club in the Veneto so that we net a couple of Venetian blinders... |  |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:14 - Jul 19 with 2411 views | FrimleyBlue |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:58 - Jul 19 by southnorfolkblue |
Think you're being overly negative tbh. Numbers may be down but the window has plenty of time left in it. As for the quality I would say that every addition, with the possible exception of Delap, is a significant upgrade on what we already had. |
Think I've covered it quite fairly tbh.
Greaves will be a good signing. I'm unsure if he's a significant upgrade on Burgess as it stands. I think he can develop further and be better yes but I think they're quite equal perhaps speed being a difference between the two. But I wouldn't say its a significant immediate upgrade.
I've agreed johnson has a bit of experience and is a solid signing.
Delap I feel we both agree on.
Hutch we had so It's great to make it perm of course but it's not a new upgrade.
Muric I've said we become a town legend.
So no I don't agree my OP is overly negative when you appear to agree to most of it. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:14 - Jul 19 with 2412 views | NthQldITFC |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:29 - Jul 19 by FrimleyBlue |
Absolutely superb reply! |
I must be pissed then! | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:17 - Jul 19 with 2390 views | NthQldITFC |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:06 - Jul 19 by WeWereZombies |
I think we need to be looking to recruit from Serie A, specifically from a club in the Veneto so that we net a couple of Venetian blinders... |
Which of our current players will that be curtains for? | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:38 - Jul 19 with 2309 views | itfctilidie |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:58 - Jul 19 by southnorfolkblue |
Think you're being overly negative tbh. Numbers may be down but the window has plenty of time left in it. As for the quality I would say that every addition, with the possible exception of Delap, is a significant upgrade on what we already had. |
Delap who come through Man City's academy and has been picked by Pep to play a couple of cup games for city, and has played for England U16/17/18/19/21's (something like thati), is not a significant upgrade on Kayden Jackson? Strewth - think you will be changing that opinion pretty quickly |  | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:47 - Jul 19 with 2254 views | WeWereZombies |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:17 - Jul 19 by NthQldITFC |
Which of our current players will that be curtains for? |
That's railly not for me to say... | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:58 - Jul 19 with 2209 views | Stewart27 |
We’ve not had a wow signing since KM joined.
We’ve spent a heck of a lot of money.
We’ve significantly improved the squad.
We’ve got 4 weeks to go. | | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 02:18 - Jul 20 with 2003 views | hoppy |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:47 - Jul 19 by WeWereZombies |
That's railly not for me to say... |
Some people were suggesting bringing Bart back as gk cover, but I don’t see the Pole wanting to return just as a number 2z |  |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 05:45 - Jul 20 with 1886 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Add in a manager who’ll shamelessly tout himself for any available job at every opportunity and a tightly knit squad being at risk of unravelling with a job lot of additions.
On the other hand the whole point of promotion is to see how the players who excelled in a lower division did in a higher division. Time was when supporters looked forward to that rather than cover other teams’ players. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 06:06 - Jul 20 with 1850 views | Churchman |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 21:27 - Jul 19 by NthQldITFC |
As far as immediate quality goes, I think all players have a performance window, and a development window. The performance window is what they are capable of now, consistently, with their worst likely performance at the bottom and their best at the top. KMc seems to have an uncanny knack of getting players to perform consistently close to the top of their performance window.
The new boys performance window looks generally to me to be top end Championship to mid Prem quality, with Hutch and Greaves possibly a little higher still. So add in Leif, Burns, Morsy and you've already got 7+ players who I reckon will be playing at mid table-ish quality - then some of our weaknesses drop us down to say 16th to 18th at a guess.
Then add in a couple more similar quality signings AND factor in the development window (i.e. the window that each player's performance window can move up to with quality coaching) and you've got something, optimistically, close to (lower?) mid-table quality perhaps by mid season. Injuries and depth of quality squad might be the problem.
Further anal-analogy > If the performance window is the bottom half of a closed sash window, a great coach will be able to fully open the window so that the bottom half is totally overlapping the top (we all know how sticky sash windows can be, especially in Norfolk where they tend to be fully jammed or just boarded up).
- Not the best day to be bullsh!tting so much about Windows, uponreflection. |
Did you know that King Louis 6th of France thought he was made of glass? He wore clothes with iron rods in them as he was afraid he might shatter. Must have been a right pain.
No relevance to the thread. Just think of it as blue skylight thinking. |  | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 06:53 - Jul 20 with 1782 views | PioneerBlue |
I’m surprised to read about the sash window, it’s new and novel because I’ve always worked with the extendable ladder but that’s by the by. We will be fine. Given where we’ve come from and where we are heading, this was always going to be imperfect. We’ve missed a whole period of developing club infrastructure and squad by being promoted so quickly. Even the squad will take time to build into a full PL 25, doing that in one summer is unreasonable to expect. We still have 6 weeks of the window to go, we’ve done the tidy up in the wider squad and we are still actively recruiting the players we need to give the squad the depth it needs which could happen right up to the end of the window. It’s possible our starting XI is already in the building. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 07:05 - Jul 20 with 1752 views | MK1 |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 05:45 - Jul 20 by ElephantintheRoom |
Add in a manager who’ll shamelessly tout himself for any available job at every opportunity and a tightly knit squad being at risk of unravelling with a job lot of additions.
On the other hand the whole point of promotion is to see how the players who excelled in a lower division did in a higher division. Time was when supporters looked forward to that rather than cover other teams’ players. |
I never use to mind your swipes at the club and players, they always seemed a little tongue in cheek type quips. Now though, you have turned into a bit of a t1t. May I suggest you go and support your own team rather than coming on here trying to get a reaction. You do know that we have now reclaimed our rightful place as the best team in Anglia, right? (not that there was any doubt about that anyway) | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 08:13 - Jul 20 with 1594 views | Churchman |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 07:05 - Jul 20 by MK1 |
I never use to mind your swipes at the club and players, they always seemed a little tongue in cheek type quips. Now though, you have turned into a bit of a t1t. May I suggest you go and support your own team rather than coming on here trying to get a reaction. You do know that we have now reclaimed our rightful place as the best team in Anglia, right? (not that there was any doubt about that anyway) |
No, I think the hatred is deep set and irreversible. I’ve never seen one positive post about anything to do with this football club or its supporters in years. Not one. Tbf he is consistant.
Now. A little bit of nostalgia is great. Brings back the memories. The best bit about it is that you mentality airbrush out the bad bits. The past was mostly awful for very many people.
My guess is Norwich or Camb Utd, possibly one of the Bristol clubs.
As for the OP, every week is important in the transfer window. We are light in one or two areas but there’s time yet to resolve that. | | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 08:18 - Jul 20 with 1554 views | southnorfolkblue |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:38 - Jul 19 by itfctilidie |
Delap who come through Man City's academy and has been picked by Pep to play a couple of cup games for city, and has played for England U16/17/18/19/21's (something like thati), is not a significant upgrade on Kayden Jackson? Strewth - think you will be changing that opinion pretty quickly |
I hope you’re right and suspect you will be. I was trying to cut Frimmers some slack on saying that we hadn’t improved the quality. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 08:19 - Jul 20 with 1541 views | southnorfolkblue |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 22:14 - Jul 19 by FrimleyBlue |
Think I've covered it quite fairly tbh.
Greaves will be a good signing. I'm unsure if he's a significant upgrade on Burgess as it stands. I think he can develop further and be better yes but I think they're quite equal perhaps speed being a difference between the two. But I wouldn't say its a significant immediate upgrade.
I've agreed johnson has a bit of experience and is a solid signing.
Delap I feel we both agree on.
Hutch we had so It's great to make it perm of course but it's not a new upgrade.
Muric I've said we become a town legend.
So no I don't agree my OP is overly negative when you appear to agree to most of it. |
We’ve clearly improved the quality of the squad though, which seems to be your main concern. | |
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| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 10:10 - Jul 20 with 1317 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 08:13 - Jul 20 by Churchman |
No, I think the hatred is deep set and irreversible. I’ve never seen one positive post about anything to do with this football club or its supporters in years. Not one. Tbf he is consistant.
Now. A little bit of nostalgia is great. Brings back the memories. The best bit about it is that you mentality airbrush out the bad bits. The past was mostly awful for very many people.
My guess is Norwich or Camb Utd, possibly one of the Bristol clubs.
As for the OP, every week is important in the transfer window. We are light in one or two areas but there’s time yet to resolve that. |
Maybe the "Elephant" refers to us having a Coventry supporter in the room?
I have bitten in the past, but try to send them to Coventry, now, anyway. | | | |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 10:12 - Jul 20 with 1304 views | Churchman |
| A very important 4 weeks ahead isn't it on 10:10 - Jul 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Maybe the "Elephant" refers to us having a Coventry supporter in the room?
I have bitten in the past, but try to send them to Coventry, now, anyway. |
It’s a good strategy. I ought to do the same really. | | | |
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