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Alleged Southport killer terror charges 17:11 - Oct 29 with 6136 viewsFrimleyBlue

I'll rephrase my post as it caused confusion.

I was just wondering if those convicted for misleading information would be able to appeal.



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Southport killer terror charges on 17:21 - Oct 29 with 3556 viewsSteve_M

Are you just being particularly dim here?

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:26 - Oct 29 with 3526 viewsBarcaBlue

Why?????
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Southport killer terror charges on 17:27 - Oct 29 with 3513 viewsBlueBadger

Impressive that your real world hot takes are even worse than your football ones, really.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 with 3472 viewsGlasgowBlue

I'm not sure the Southport murderer also being charged with terror offences is a reasonable defence for attempting to set fire to a hotel full of innocent asylum seekers, terrorising British asian taxi drivers and trashing corner shops which my be owned by people whose skin colour offends knuckle dragging racists.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 with 3462 viewsFrimleyBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:27 - Oct 29 by BlueBadger

Impressive that your real world hot takes are even worse than your football ones, really.


Hot take? I was asking if it could lead to a long list of court appeals.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:34 - Oct 29 with 3438 viewsFrimleyBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 by GlasgowBlue

I'm not sure the Southport murderer also being charged with terror offences is a reasonable defence for attempting to set fire to a hotel full of innocent asylum seekers, terrorising British asian taxi drivers and trashing corner shops which my be owned by people whose skin colour offends knuckle dragging racists.


Of course not this that's obvious wasn't referring to those. I will amend my OP as I didn't think I needed to be specific. I just meant those who were charged for social media posts labelling him a terrorist

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:34 - Oct 29 with 3421 viewsHorsham

Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Hot take? I was asking if it could lead to a long list of court appeals.


Appeal on what basis though?
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Southport killer terror charges on 17:35 - Oct 29 with 3417 viewsBlueBadger

Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Hot take? I was asking if it could lead to a long list of court appeals.


My bad. You were JAQing off.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:35 - Oct 29 with 3411 viewsBlueBadger

Southport killer terror charges on 17:34 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Of course not this that's obvious wasn't referring to those. I will amend my OP as I didn't think I needed to be specific. I just meant those who were charged for social media posts labelling him a terrorist


Likely that nobody would have been charged for calling him a terrorist, unless they were ALSO actively inciting violence and/or hatred.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:36 - Oct 29 with 3405 viewsBlueBadger

Southport killer terror charges on 17:21 - Oct 29 by Steve_M

Are you just being particularly dim here?


Having read his explanations, my guess is 'yes'.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:38 - Oct 29 with 3375 viewsFrimleyBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:36 - Oct 29 by BlueBadger

Having read his explanations, my guess is 'yes'.


Possibly on this yes. I don't know the ins and outs of it hence the question and why I didn't post in the threads about it at the time.

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:49 - Oct 29 with 3304 viewsTresBonne

Southport killer terror charges on 17:36 - Oct 29 by BlueBadger

Having read his explanations, my guess is 'yes'.


Why is it sometimes on TWTD when someone asks a genuine question, they're met with such a harsh response from people like you and others calling them thick?

I saw his OP and didn't take it as a dim question. Just somebody who wants to know if anyone charged could actually have any grounds for appeal. Educating himself. The world is a much better place when you actually just educate people on the facts and the logic, not just instantly assume they're asserting a statement and call them a dinlo or similar for it.

Frimmers to answer your question. Most likely to absolutely no. As Badger stated, no one would've been put in prison for 'spreading misleading information' unless they were actively inciting violence, as far as reported anywhere (I can't find anything on the internet about anyone charged for purely spreading misinformation).

30+ people found themselves arrested for actions on social media, with 17 of those charged. The police will have deemed that some of those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality. And in plenty of cases, the legal system could be the wrong way to deal with social media posts. (1)

I would imagine that 'those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality' would hint that people posting misinformation couldn't be charged, as it is a bit of a grey area in the UK surrounding it. Further reading available online for that statement. (2)

1 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo

2 - https://www.qmul.ac.uk/lac/our-legal-blog/items/social-media-misinformation-and-
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Southport killer terror charges on 17:50 - Oct 29 with 3293 viewsGlasgowBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Hot take? I was asking if it could lead to a long list of court appeals.


why?

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:56 - Oct 29 with 3266 viewsgtsb1966

I don't think anyone has been charged for just saying they thought Axel Rudakubana was a terrorist.
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Southport killer terror charges on 17:58 - Oct 29 with 3255 viewsGlasgowBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:34 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Of course not this that's obvious wasn't referring to those. I will amend my OP as I didn't think I needed to be specific. I just meant those who were charged for social media posts labelling him a terrorist


The question you should be asking is why has it taken three months for this information to become public?

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:00 - Oct 29 with 3228 viewsFrimleyBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:58 - Oct 29 by GlasgowBlue

The question you should be asking is why has it taken three months for this information to become public?


Yeah that does seem rather odd.

Timing because of budget tomorrow?

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:01 - Oct 29 with 3206 viewsCheltenham_Blue

What’s your thinking for why that could even be a possibility?

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Southport killer terror charges on 17:49 - Oct 29 by TresBonne

Why is it sometimes on TWTD when someone asks a genuine question, they're met with such a harsh response from people like you and others calling them thick?

I saw his OP and didn't take it as a dim question. Just somebody who wants to know if anyone charged could actually have any grounds for appeal. Educating himself. The world is a much better place when you actually just educate people on the facts and the logic, not just instantly assume they're asserting a statement and call them a dinlo or similar for it.

Frimmers to answer your question. Most likely to absolutely no. As Badger stated, no one would've been put in prison for 'spreading misleading information' unless they were actively inciting violence, as far as reported anywhere (I can't find anything on the internet about anyone charged for purely spreading misinformation).

30+ people found themselves arrested for actions on social media, with 17 of those charged. The police will have deemed that some of those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality. And in plenty of cases, the legal system could be the wrong way to deal with social media posts. (1)

I would imagine that 'those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality' would hint that people posting misinformation couldn't be charged, as it is a bit of a grey area in the UK surrounding it. Further reading available online for that statement. (2)

1 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo

2 - https://www.qmul.ac.uk/lac/our-legal-blog/items/social-media-misinformation-and-
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In addition, I think nearly all of those (if not every single one) charged with various on-line offences pleaded guilty, which tends to limit their chances of appeal.

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:01 - Oct 29 with 3198 viewsFrimleyBlue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:49 - Oct 29 by TresBonne

Why is it sometimes on TWTD when someone asks a genuine question, they're met with such a harsh response from people like you and others calling them thick?

I saw his OP and didn't take it as a dim question. Just somebody who wants to know if anyone charged could actually have any grounds for appeal. Educating himself. The world is a much better place when you actually just educate people on the facts and the logic, not just instantly assume they're asserting a statement and call them a dinlo or similar for it.

Frimmers to answer your question. Most likely to absolutely no. As Badger stated, no one would've been put in prison for 'spreading misleading information' unless they were actively inciting violence, as far as reported anywhere (I can't find anything on the internet about anyone charged for purely spreading misinformation).

30+ people found themselves arrested for actions on social media, with 17 of those charged. The police will have deemed that some of those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality. And in plenty of cases, the legal system could be the wrong way to deal with social media posts. (1)

I would imagine that 'those investigated did not meet the threshold for criminality' would hint that people posting misinformation couldn't be charged, as it is a bit of a grey area in the UK surrounding it. Further reading available online for that statement. (2)

1 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr548zdmz3jo

2 - https://www.qmul.ac.uk/lac/our-legal-blog/items/social-media-misinformation-and-
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Thank you. Appreciated and insightful.

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:01 - Oct 29 with 3192 viewslowhouseblue

Southport killer terror charges on 17:58 - Oct 29 by GlasgowBlue

The question you should be asking is why has it taken three months for this information to become public?


and why are the police and cps now dancing on the head of a pin to avoid saying that the murders were terrorist related. they are going to lose all credibility over this. how can the al queda manual and the ricin not read as to motive.

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:04 - Oct 29 with 3150 viewsBenters

Southport killer terror charges on 18:01 - Oct 29 by lowhouseblue

and why are the police and cps now dancing on the head of a pin to avoid saying that the murders were terrorist related. they are going to lose all credibility over this. how can the al queda manual and the ricin not read as to motive.


Yeah but he looks nice and cuddly in his school uniform or something.

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Southport killer terror charges on 18:07 - Oct 29 with 3087 viewsBlueBadger

Southport killer terror charges on 17:58 - Oct 29 by GlasgowBlue

The question you should be asking is why has it taken three months for this information to become public?


https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/october/statement-fro

Long story short - because lots of checking and double-checking after the fact was needed.
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Southport killer terror charges on 18:08 - Oct 29 with 3076 viewsPassionNotAnger

Southport killer terror charges on 17:32 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Hot take? I was asking if it could lead to a long list of court appeals.


No, you were gaslighting, everyone know it, just own it and perhaps you might retain a modicum of credibility
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Southport killer terror charges on 18:08 - Oct 29 with 3069 viewsbazza

Southport killer terror charges on 18:00 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue

Yeah that does seem rather odd.

Timing because of budget tomorrow?


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Southport killer terror charges on 18:10 - Oct 29 with 3047 viewsbazza

Southport killer terror charges on 17:58 - Oct 29 by GlasgowBlue

The question you should be asking is why has it taken three months for this information to become public?


Maybe to assess all the information… and for public tensions to settle down..?? Right call in my opinion.. prisons are bursting at the seams .!!
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