| The Mark Ashton Show 15:54 - Nov 6 with 7294 views | MaySixth |
continues |  |
| |  |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:01 - Nov 6 with 5753 views | Churchman |
Why? What’s the beast of Bristol been up to now? |  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:09 - Nov 6 with 5712 views | bluebud |
Lol, I love the guy but the VAR stuff....
"I messaged him as I saw how it was going to go"
Cringe [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:09]
|  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:18 - Nov 6 with 5637 views | waveneyblue |
Thing is, if Mark Ashton doesn't try to stand up for us - no other bug*er is going to.
He's only saying what everyone outside the big clubs think |  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:30 - Nov 6 with 5518 views | hammo56 |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:18 - Nov 6 by waveneyblue |
Thing is, if Mark Ashton doesn't try to stand up for us - no other bug*er is going to.
He's only saying what everyone outside the big clubs think |
All clubs including us had the opportunity to vote for scrapping var and only Wolves did. No good keep moaning about it now. |  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:36 - Nov 6 with 5438 views | ArnieM |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:30 - Nov 6 by hammo56 |
All clubs including us had the opportunity to vote for scrapping var and only Wolves did. No good keep moaning about it now. |
And MA gave the reason why thd club voted for VAR at that time. Now having
" experienced" it first hand and seen it in action for what it is, he states he wouldn't vote "for" it again and that it is ruining the game.
It's called reflection. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:49]
|  |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:37 - Nov 6 with 5424 views | berkstractorboy |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:30 - Nov 6 by hammo56 |
All clubs including us had the opportunity to vote for scrapping var and only Wolves did. No good keep moaning about it now. |
Why would he say no to the vote? We have never experienced it before and the PL gave him a story of how it would be. Politically a very bad call to vote no with no personal evidence why you are voting against it.
So yes we have every right to moan when VAR is being inconsistently applied and suspiciously so far the vast majority have not been in our favour. And by this its not the technology its the application of VAR by officials. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:45 - Nov 6 with 5276 views | RegencyBlue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:30 - Nov 6 by hammo56 |
All clubs including us had the opportunity to vote for scrapping var and only Wolves did. No good keep moaning about it now. |
He’s explained this already.
Ashton took the Premier Leagues presentation about VAR at face value as he had no direct experience of it previously. Having now seen it in action he’s asking not unreasonable questions about it’s operation, rightly in my opinion. |  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:59 - Nov 6 with 5123 views | SE1blue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:18 - Nov 6 by waveneyblue |
Thing is, if Mark Ashton doesn't try to stand up for us - no other bug*er is going to.
He's only saying what everyone outside the big clubs think |
And you can bet the big clubs are in Howard Webb's ear ALL the time.
I don't know if Ashton needed to publicly declare everything that he has but the price of success or failure is much higher in the PL I guess and he's angry. I just think he could have been a bit more 'McKenna' over all this and handled his hand more discreetly. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| The Mark Ashton Show on 17:20 - Nov 6 with 4919 views | Churchman |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:59 - Nov 6 by SE1blue |
And you can bet the big clubs are in Howard Webb's ear ALL the time.
I don't know if Ashton needed to publicly declare everything that he has but the price of success or failure is much higher in the PL I guess and he's angry. I just think he could have been a bit more 'McKenna' over all this and handled his hand more discreetly. |
Oh I don’t know. I can’t see that a bit of public tongue lashing will do any harm. We are getting zippo out of officials now and won’t in the future regardless of whether we quietly say yes sir no sir or otherwise. So we might as well dish out a bit of the old vitriol. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 17:28 - Nov 6 with 4859 views | bluebud |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:45 - Nov 6 by RegencyBlue |
He’s explained this already.
Ashton took the Premier Leagues presentation about VAR at face value as he had no direct experience of it previously. Having now seen it in action he’s asking not unreasonable questions about it’s operation, rightly in my opinion. |
So he took it at face value as he hadn't experienced it yet....
....even though all fans and most clubs had had enough of it by last season. Regardless of direct experience or not. Any fan who had watched any VAR football, internationals or Euros knew about its inconcsistencies and poor appliction of it in the UK. Mark Ashton should have been aware and even said before the season how he'd be keeping an eye on it...........not a quarter of the season through.
Us as fans were aware of how impactful it could be and that we were unlikely to be favoured. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 17:35 - Nov 6 with 4769 views | hammo56 |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:36 - Nov 6 by ArnieM |
And MA gave the reason why thd club voted for VAR at that time. Now having
" experienced" it first hand and seen it in action for what it is, he states he wouldn't vote "for" it again and that it is ruining the game.
It's called reflection. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:49]
|
Well now he has experienced it first hand and seen it in action he can have his little chat with Webb but to put it bluntly I think he will find he is pi$$ing in the wind. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:15 - Nov 6 with 4495 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:18 - Nov 6 by waveneyblue |
Thing is, if Mark Ashton doesn't try to stand up for us - no other bug*er is going to.
He's only saying what everyone outside the big clubs think |
This. How anyone can question his commitment to improve us is beyond me. It’ll probably go t*ts up at some point as nothing lasts forever in this game, but he’s done more in 3 years for our club than any other CEO type in my lifetime. Big credit to the owners too for firstly poaching him and then leaving him alone to get on with transforming us from top to bottom. |  |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:21 - Nov 6 with 4445 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:15 - Nov 6 by Swansea_Blue |
This. How anyone can question his commitment to improve us is beyond me. It’ll probably go t*ts up at some point as nothing lasts forever in this game, but he’s done more in 3 years for our club than any other CEO type in my lifetime. Big credit to the owners too for firstly poaching him and then leaving him alone to get on with transforming us from top to bottom. |
No one has questioned commitment.
There is however a way people believe a ceo/chairman should act especially publicly. |  |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:28 - Nov 6 with 4379 views | CrayonKing |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 16:36 - Nov 6 by ArnieM |
And MA gave the reason why thd club voted for VAR at that time. Now having
" experienced" it first hand and seen it in action for what it is, he states he wouldn't vote "for" it again and that it is ruining the game.
It's called reflection. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 16:49]
|
I’m not sure he said that did he? I think it was phrased as something like “I’m not sure I could guarantee I’d vote the same way again” which isn’t exactly definitive!
I think he’s been great for the club and I’m going against the grain a bit here but it does bother me that he had the chance to vote against it, knowing full well that most fans hate it, and instead voted the way the FA wanted/pressured him to. It does leave the complaints feeling a little performative to me. If it does somehow come up for vote again I hope he does the right thing.
Edit: Not just singling Ashton out here btw. 19 of 20 PL CEOs ignored their fans and voted for it [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 18:37]
|  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:31 - Nov 6 with 4332 views | SitfcB |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:21 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has questioned commitment.
There is however a way people believe a ceo/chairman should act especially publicly. |
He’s hardly acted like the Forest owner/chairman whatever he is has he ffs.
Just came out and said what’s gone on and what everyone wanted to know. |  |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:40 - Nov 6 with 4245 views | FoD_Blue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:21 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has questioned commitment.
There is however a way people believe a ceo/chairman should act especially publicly. |
Honestly amd openly?
Zero complaint from me. He is acting in what he believes is the best interests of the club. Exactly what I would expect from him. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:54 - Nov 6 with 4132 views | Horsham |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:21 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has questioned commitment.
There is however a way people believe a ceo/chairman should act especially publicly. |
He’s acting in the best interest of Ipswich Town Football Club. The more fuss made about us getting the sh!t end of the stick the more pressure put on officials to give us a break.
Also creating a siege mentality of the odds against us etc. That actually can either way. Fine line between it being motivating and feeling sorry for ourselves. |  | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:55 - Nov 6 with 4112 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:31 - Nov 6 by SitfcB |
He’s hardly acted like the Forest owner/chairman whatever he is has he ffs.
Just came out and said what’s gone on and what everyone wanted to know. |
I didn't need to know that he was texting during the game. Why would you do that. What if we scored a 2nd goal before the pen incident would he have texted again and said never mind?
Just so much coming from him. Adding fire to the whole var stuff and boo hiss officials not being fair stuff.
I get it he's trying to deflect the heat away from the players and the manager for not winning a game yet, but many ways he could do that professionally.
I don't personally feel a professional ceo/chairman should be publicly vocal about. Sure deal with it behind the scenes but be professional about it. | |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:16 - Nov 6 with 4008 views | braveblue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:55 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't need to know that he was texting during the game. Why would you do that. What if we scored a 2nd goal before the pen incident would he have texted again and said never mind?
Just so much coming from him. Adding fire to the whole var stuff and boo hiss officials not being fair stuff.
I get it he's trying to deflect the heat away from the players and the manager for not winning a game yet, but many ways he could do that professionally.
I don't personally feel a professional ceo/chairman should be publicly vocal about. Sure deal with it behind the scenes but be professional about it. |
Why not let the fans know what you think? A refreshing change. Fully back him. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:19 - Nov 6 with 3974 views | bluebud |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:55 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't need to know that he was texting during the game. Why would you do that. What if we scored a 2nd goal before the pen incident would he have texted again and said never mind?
Just so much coming from him. Adding fire to the whole var stuff and boo hiss officials not being fair stuff.
I get it he's trying to deflect the heat away from the players and the manager for not winning a game yet, but many ways he could do that professionally.
I don't personally feel a professional ceo/chairman should be publicly vocal about. Sure deal with it behind the scenes but be professional about it. |
Exactly right on all counts | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:25 - Nov 6 with 3932 views | victorysquad |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:19 - Nov 6 by bluebud |
Exactly right on all counts |
What on earth is this thread?
Never read such tripe in 30 years of being on here. | |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:26 - Nov 6 with 3931 views | Nutkins_Return |
Does Mark Ashton love the sound of his voice and can r a bit cheesy sometimes. Yes absolutely 100%.
Has the guy worked his absolute nuts off and transformed this football club and taken us to the division in no time. Yes.
Does point 2 dwarf the minor annoyance of point 1 to the point of next to no issue. Yep.
Guy deserves all our respect for what he's done. He actually limits his output quite a lot which is good. Couldn't care less if he's a bit cheesy sometimes. You put that amount of hardwork and dedication in and get the results he does. All he gets from me is thank you. [Post edited 6 Nov 2024 23:06]
| |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:35 - Nov 6 with 3815 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:16 - Nov 6 by braveblue |
Why not let the fans know what you think? A refreshing change. Fully back him. |
Because he's now a chairman and ceo of a premierleague football club not some tin pot non league club where you need to feel like your having beers with the owner.
Each their own. But I prefer a chairman/ceo to act with dignity and professionalism at all times. Its a representation of the club and poor us poor us isn't one I want ipswich to be known for tbh. | |
| |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 19:54 - Nov 6 with 3708 views | Churchman |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 18:55 - Nov 6 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't need to know that he was texting during the game. Why would you do that. What if we scored a 2nd goal before the pen incident would he have texted again and said never mind?
Just so much coming from him. Adding fire to the whole var stuff and boo hiss officials not being fair stuff.
I get it he's trying to deflect the heat away from the players and the manager for not winning a game yet, but many ways he could do that professionally.
I don't personally feel a professional ceo/chairman should be publicly vocal about. Sure deal with it behind the scenes but be professional about it. |
Interesting that you use the word ‘professional’. In the world of football, define professional. Were Leicester professional working the ref over the way they did? Were there owners professional in how they took advantage of the financial rules? Was it professional to submit annual accounts for 13 months?
In many ways, there is nothing professional about how professional football operates at the upper echelons from what I can see. Ashton is trying to defend his and my club. So he uses what mechanisms he can. I’m glad he’s doing that. Far better than tugging a forelock and saying ‘thank ee sur’, just before getting another slap round the chops.
Will he get anywhere? Of course not, but at least the bloke cares. There are a few things I think our CEO has not handled so well but this isn’t one of them.
However, I am aware that you believe the referee handled that game even handedly and fairly to both teams from the other thread so we are not going to agree on this. | | | |
| The Mark Ashton Show on 20:02 - Nov 6 with 3648 views | Epiphone |
I wish we could go back to the days where everyone from the owner,through the CEO,manager down to the gate man really didn't give a stuff about the Club!! |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
