| Team stats 15:56 - Nov 13 with 3597 views | Vic |
A few weeks ago someone posted that overall our stats were the worst in the league - and I think a lot worse than last years relegated teams.
I wonder if after the last 3 games much improved performances those stats have shifted upwards. Can we see the green shoots under the surface beginning to show or are we still wearing blue tinted glasses, with the performances not really reflecting the underlying details? |  |
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| Team stats on 16:32 - Nov 13 with 3452 views | gringoblue |
In short, no.
https://theanalyst.com/competition/premier-league/stats
We are still bottom for shots, touches in oppo box, XG, XGA, XGD and XPTS.
EDIT - apologies I can't see if there is a shift upwards from where the stats were 3 games ago, to actually answer your question. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 16:33]
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| Team stats on 17:07 - Nov 13 with 3303 views | Wacko |
In other news Liam Delap is second in the Goals v XG column - great sign for a striker |  |
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| Team stats on 17:17 - Nov 13 with 3257 views | DJR |
According to Match of the Day, our XG was about 1.6 in contrast to Spurs' which was about 0.8 from memory. |  | | |
| ...at half time. (n/t) on 17:20 - Nov 13 with 3225 views | Bloots |
| Team stats on 17:17 - Nov 13 by DJR |
According to Match of the Day, our XG was about 1.6 in contrast to Spurs' which was about 0.8 from memory. |
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| Team stats on 17:21 - Nov 13 with 3218 views | tonybied |
| Team stats on 17:17 - Nov 13 by DJR |
According to Match of the Day, our XG was about 1.6 in contrast to Spurs' which was about 0.8 from memory. |
Wasn't that the XG at half time? I'm sure the XG shown by the live feed on Peacock at FT showed that Spuds had a higher XG than us! |  | | |
| Team stats on 17:25 - Nov 13 with 3190 views | MK1 |
Stats are ok for the managers and pundits, but I like to look at league tables to determine who is worst. At the moment that is Southampton, followed by Wolves and Crystal Palace. |  |
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| ...at half time. (n/t) on 17:46 - Nov 13 with 3118 views | Dubtractor |
| ...at half time. (n/t) on 17:20 - Nov 13 by Bloots |
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It did finish 1.62 to 1.55 in our favour, so we still won the all important xg battle.
We're not creating huge numbers of 'good' chances in games still, though clearly are offering a threat, but we've looked much tighter defensively in the last 2 games. Even against Leicester, where the last 20 minutes felt like a bit of an onslaught, they only finished the game with 6 shots on target and an xg of 1.55. Spurs were reduced to a number of hopeful long shots for the most part, and rarely got in behind us. |  |
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| Team stats on 17:51 - Nov 13 with 3077 views | cbower |
It's fair to say that the stats don't look great and like you, I get the feeling the should be improving with recent performances. I like to look at the fact we have got something from more than half our games and have probably deserved 3 or 4 more points. We can excuse the defeats to Liverpool and Man City, the defeat at Brentford was in large part self inflicted but we were ultra competitive. Only the debacle either side of half time at West Ham and the ultra flat performance at home to Everton have been genuinely worrying. The win on Sunday was huge. I think we will gain significantly more points in the next 11 games than the 8 we have accrued so far and whilst our stats won't set the world on fire, it's points that will put us in position to survive. Really, that's all that matters this season isn't it. |  |
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| ...at half time. (n/t) on 19:37 - Nov 13 with 2924 views | Bugs |
| ...at half time. (n/t) on 17:46 - Nov 13 by Dubtractor |
It did finish 1.62 to 1.55 in our favour, so we still won the all important xg battle.
We're not creating huge numbers of 'good' chances in games still, though clearly are offering a threat, but we've looked much tighter defensively in the last 2 games. Even against Leicester, where the last 20 minutes felt like a bit of an onslaught, they only finished the game with 6 shots on target and an xg of 1.55. Spurs were reduced to a number of hopeful long shots for the most part, and rarely got in behind us. |
I feel like XG is certainly a good guide to performances, however it's certainly not the be all and end all.
Even over a season, there have been numerous teams that have been major XG outliers. We came runners-up to one of them in the league a couple of seasons ago. But it's good to see it going in the right direction. |  | | |
| Team stats on 20:03 - Nov 13 with 2832 views | Oldsmoker |
That first team talk by Rubin Amorim.
"I've seen the stats - we just have to turn up to get the 3 points." |  |
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| Team stats on 20:21 - Nov 13 with 2792 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Team stats on 17:21 - Nov 13 by tonybied |
Wasn't that the XG at half time? I'm sure the XG shown by the live feed on Peacock at FT showed that Spuds had a higher XG than us! |
So Muric had a very good game and the Spurs strikers didn't.
There are limits to all of these stats apart from the goals and points ones. |  |
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| Team stats on 21:49 - Nov 13 with 2640 views | tonybied |
| Team stats on 20:21 - Nov 13 by Nthsuffolkblue |
So Muric had a very good game and the Spurs strikers didn't.
There are limits to all of these stats apart from the goals and points ones. |
I wasn't saying we didn't deserve to win, I was just saying those were the HT XG stats. XG although tells a story is far from the whole picture. I don't read to much into XG tbh. | | | |
| Team stats on 21:53 - Nov 13 with 2617 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Team stats on 21:49 - Nov 13 by tonybied |
I wasn't saying we didn't deserve to win, I was just saying those were the HT XG stats. XG although tells a story is far from the whole picture. I don't read to much into XG tbh. |
Agreed. Mine was a general comment rather than any criticism of your comment. I can see value in stats such as xG but there is more to it than that alone. A clinical striker or two and an excellent keeper can make a lot of difference but the stats can help to show them for what they are too. | |
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| Team stats on 21:55 - Nov 13 with 2597 views | WicklowBlue |
| Team stats on 21:49 - Nov 13 by tonybied |
I wasn't saying we didn't deserve to win, I was just saying those were the HT XG stats. XG although tells a story is far from the whole picture. I don't read to much into XG tbh. |
Agree, while XG is an indicator like all stats it's one particular of the bigger picture. From experience (corporate) if you chase one stat the others go to hell!
Ultimately at the end of the day, stats don't matter its the results and points on the pitch that do. You can over analyse things to the nth degree. All you need is Delap est al scoring every semi/half/unbelievable chance which matters. Along with claiming the title of Super Lucky Ipswich!
Did XG go back as far as Murph's unbelievable season? |  | | |
| Team stats on 22:21 - Nov 13 with 2519 views | Vic |
I absolutely get that points are what counts, but I doubt there’s a team that had the poorest stats in the league has done very well over the course of a season. Thus it would be good to see them starting to tick upwards. | |
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| Team stats on 23:30 - Nov 13 with 2388 views | charlie1 |
It’s seemed to me that McKenna, knowing how massive the increase in standard of the opposition was and how leaky we were last season, has spent the season so far trying desperately hard to find a system and personnel that make us hard to beat.
Injuries, suspensions etc on top of there being 12 new arrivals has really hampered any consistency.
But I think we’re finally there.
The new guys get it. Delap and Szmodics defend from the front like animals.
Cajuste is starting to purr. O’Shea and Johnson getting stronger every game.
The squad is all looking so settled.
The Spurs result had been coming the last few weeks, and will give the whole squad a massive confidence boost.
The stats will take care of themselves. | | | |
| ...at half time. (n/t) on 09:25 - Nov 14 with 2080 views | DJR |
| ...at half time. (n/t) on 17:20 - Nov 13 by Bloots |
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That's what comes of skim watching. | | | |
| Team stats on 09:43 - Nov 14 with 2011 views | cvillageblue |
| Team stats on 17:17 - Nov 13 by DJR |
According to Match of the Day, our XG was about 1.6 in contrast to Spurs' which was about 0.8 from memory. |
End of game XG was Spurs 1.8 us 1.65 or something. | |
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| Team stats on 18:48 - Nov 14 with 1670 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Team stats on 09:43 - Nov 14 by cvillageblue |
End of game XG was Spurs 1.8 us 1.65 or something. |
What was the xG on the chance Solanke handled? I guess that probably made quite a difference alongside a couple of good saves that Muric made. | |
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| Team stats on 19:03 - Nov 14 with 1626 views | Weekender |
| Team stats on 09:43 - Nov 14 by cvillageblue |
End of game XG was Spurs 1.8 us 1.65 or something. |
Our xG was skewed somewhat by Delap's goal. The xG for that was 0.99. |  |
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| Team stats on 19:18 - Nov 14 with 1583 views | SWBlue22 |
| Team stats on 21:49 - Nov 13 by tonybied |
I wasn't saying we didn't deserve to win, I was just saying those were the HT XG stats. XG although tells a story is far from the whole picture. I don't read to much into XG tbh. |
I've never understood the XG stat. You either score a goal or you don't and the only stat that matters really is the final score whether you've had 30 shots or 3. |  | | |
| Team stats on 19:25 - Nov 14 with 1563 views | jayessess |
I suspect our stats would've improved somewhat over the past 3 games if we hadn't played a substantial proportion of games 1 and 2 with ten men! |  |
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| Team stats on 21:57 - Nov 14 with 1432 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Team stats on 19:25 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
I suspect our stats would've improved somewhat over the past 3 games if we hadn't played a substantial proportion of games 1 and 2 with ten men! |
And even more so had the referee given a penalty instead of waved it away before issuing the red card!
Lies, damn lies and statistics! | |
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| Team stats on 08:06 - Nov 15 with 1186 views | E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
All these stats although a slight gage should be taken with a pinch of salt. The fact we have been very competitive is almost all games is good enough for me. The manager said at the start of the season we'd begin to see much better performances come November and he is being proven correct. And for those going by stats only, playing Spurs away and being level on stats and Villa at home similar with 10 corners to 0 is reason enough to know we'll have a fighting chance, these are the kind of games previous relegated sides get hammered in all aspects. Certainly not us and if we were to go down come seasons end it will be very very marginal. | | | |
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