| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? 11:31 - Dec 16 with 3437 views | nrb1985 |
Romford Blue posted a good ITK post recently on Delap and his buy back. Forgot the details but I think he said, it did exist but was for a higher fee than had been touted?
Catching up on the City highlights from yesterday, it's clear they've hit a wall and are in need of a rebuild. Without much in the way of saleable assets (Haaland aside), you would have to assume, as things stand, there is a high likelihood of them coming for Delap in the summer as a cost efficient and versatile option?
Albeit the above is somewhat irrelevant if we go down as we would have no hope of keeping him regardless (I don't think we'll go down though). [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 11:32]
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:34 - Dec 16 with 3354 views | hype313 |
Thing is, it's not the striker position that's the issue, it's the midfield and defence where they are struggling with ageing players and guys out of form. They need to address other areas before they worry about dropping huge sums on a second striker. |  |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:34 - Dec 16 with 3356 views | SomethingBlue |
The key detail in that post was that (as I'd expected tbh) it was matching rights and not straight buyback. If that's true, there is no set fee so that's less of an issue. | |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:38 - Dec 16 with 3301 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:34 - Dec 16 by hype313 |
Thing is, it's not the striker position that's the issue, it's the midfield and defence where they are struggling with ageing players and guys out of form. They need to address other areas before they worry about dropping huge sums on a second striker. |
Agree but Haaland can't play 60 games a season at full tilt. Plus, Delap can play anywhere across the front 3.
They sold Alvarez last summer to fund buying the new wide guys, a decision that looks ever more peculiar by the day. I assume it was more to do with clever account and sales being booked immediately rather than footballing ability.
Neither of their wide players look at the moment like they could lace Alvarez's boots. [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 17:21]
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:50 - Dec 16 with 3171 views | bsw72 |
City have a number of saleable assets, *if* they need to rebuild they can make money on those, plus they are well placed for FFP rules to also sign other players.
I would be amazed if the solution to City's problems will include a 21 year old player like Delap. He is good, but a long way from what a side like City need to improve - and also he does not suit their style of play currently.
Finally the "buy-back" is only a matching option to other clubs, not a fixed fee or even first option.
I think the bigger concern is how we continue to build on our ongoing development, and off-set the injuries to Tuanzebe, Hurst and Ogbene which have had a huge impact on the team, and our ability to turn one goal defeats to draws, and draws to narrow wins. [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 11:52]
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:01 - Dec 16 with 3080 views | tonybied |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 11:50 - Dec 16 by bsw72 |
City have a number of saleable assets, *if* they need to rebuild they can make money on those, plus they are well placed for FFP rules to also sign other players.
I would be amazed if the solution to City's problems will include a 21 year old player like Delap. He is good, but a long way from what a side like City need to improve - and also he does not suit their style of play currently.
Finally the "buy-back" is only a matching option to other clubs, not a fixed fee or even first option.
I think the bigger concern is how we continue to build on our ongoing development, and off-set the injuries to Tuanzebe, Hurst and Ogbene which have had a huge impact on the team, and our ability to turn one goal defeats to draws, and draws to narrow wins. [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 11:52]
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Foden and Lewis being "home-grown" will mean they are much more saleable assets than Haaland as they'll be counted as 100% profit. I'd imagine at least one of those pair would go before Haaland.
I'm not sure Delap is at the profile they would want yet either. He's been impressive, no doubt, but I suspect the clause was just to protect themselves in case he had the most unlikely of seasons, ie became the leagues to scorer, ousted Kane in becoming England's number one striker etc.
We'll be okay for now, as long as we stay in this league I can't see him going anywhere for another year. |  | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:49 - Dec 16 with 2856 views | davblue |
Not putting Delap down but he’s nowhere near that level at the moment, he wouldn’t start for them so it would be a bad move for him personally in a playing capacity.
Theres so many rough edges there atm, he needs game time to iron them out and playing games for a club like ours or a slightly bigger club would be the best move for him currently. |  | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:58 - Dec 16 with 2758 views | itfc_bucks |
This is Man City's version of all the "we should sign Colby Bishop" posts that have littered this forum over the past month.
We're shopping in a different league to Colby Bishop.
Man City will be shopping in a different league to Liam Delap. | | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 13:45 - Dec 16 with 2528 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:01 - Dec 16 by tonybied |
Foden and Lewis being "home-grown" will mean they are much more saleable assets than Haaland as they'll be counted as 100% profit. I'd imagine at least one of those pair would go before Haaland.
I'm not sure Delap is at the profile they would want yet either. He's been impressive, no doubt, but I suspect the clause was just to protect themselves in case he had the most unlikely of seasons, ie became the leagues to scorer, ousted Kane in becoming England's number one striker etc.
We'll be okay for now, as long as we stay in this league I can't see him going anywhere for another year. |
Ah of course, had forgotten about Foden. He's been so below par this season, forgot he existed! But yes you are right, he would I suppose be most likely to go given he's 100% profit.
I disagree re Delap not being of the right profile though. They won't be able to afford a top like for like back up to Haaland, nor would a top player want to go and play as a back up. See Julian Alvarez.
Until a few games ago, Delap had a goal every other game playing for one of the "worst" teams in the league and is English. At the age of 21. [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 13:51]
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 13:48 - Dec 16 with 2493 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:58 - Dec 16 by itfc_bucks |
This is Man City's version of all the "we should sign Colby Bishop" posts that have littered this forum over the past month.
We're shopping in a different league to Colby Bishop.
Man City will be shopping in a different league to Liam Delap. |
I don't agree (he'd go to legoland).
Delap has already been linked to and watched by teams above Man City in the league. David Ornstein (extremely well informed Chelsea journo) has already said they have watched him.
Would also politely point out that Colby Bishop has at no stage had almost a goal every other game in the premier league, the best league in the world...at the age of 21. [Post edited 16 Dec 2024 13:49]
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 13:52 - Dec 16 with 2447 views | bluesbrothers |
Does anyone have a link to the original post? I'd assumed it was just City could match any bid we are willing to accept | | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 14:28 - Dec 16 with 2291 views | Radlett_blue |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 12:49 - Dec 16 by davblue |
Not putting Delap down but he’s nowhere near that level at the moment, he wouldn’t start for them so it would be a bad move for him personally in a playing capacity.
Theres so many rough edges there atm, he needs game time to iron them out and playing games for a club like ours or a slightly bigger club would be the best move for him currently. |
Indeed, his next move is likely to be to a middling PL club, rather than one of the big boys. |  |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 15:23 - Dec 16 with 2036 views | bluejacko |
What is it with this selling Delap obsession? He is our player under contract Ashton has already said anyone who wants to buy him will need a big number with lots of zeros! We will not need to sell and there is every possibility that he won’t even want to leave whatever league we are in.🙄 | | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 15:27 - Dec 16 with 2019 views | Illinoisblue |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 14:28 - Dec 16 by Radlett_blue |
Indeed, his next move is likely to be to a middling PL club, rather than one of the big boys. |
I’m convinced he’ll end up at Liverpool just as soon as they can find someone to take Nunez off their hands. |  |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 16:38 - Dec 16 with 1839 views | OldFart71 |
They were saying yesterday that Jack Grealish hasn't scored since last December probably making him Manchester's most expensive and least effective since Paul Pogba and yes I am aware one is City and the other United. | | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 17:15 - Dec 16 with 1679 views | HatStand |
City are more in need of Kalvin Phillips | |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 17:23 - Dec 16 with 1646 views | nrb1985 |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 16:38 - Dec 16 by OldFart71 |
They were saying yesterday that Jack Grealish hasn't scored since last December probably making him Manchester's most expensive and least effective since Paul Pogba and yes I am aware one is City and the other United. |
Weirdly, getting lashed on a regular basis doesn't seem to have done much for the lad. | | | |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 17:32 - Dec 16 with 1597 views | MK1 |
Taking absolutely nothing away from Delap, but he isn't good enough for a top 4 team yet. He needs to stay here for another 2 seasons regardless of our league position, to develop even more and then have his big move. It will happen, just not yet. |  |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 18:17 - Dec 16 with 1458 views | Radlett_blue |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 15:23 - Dec 16 by bluejacko |
What is it with this selling Delap obsession? He is our player under contract Ashton has already said anyone who wants to buy him will need a big number with lots of zeros! We will not need to sell and there is every possibility that he won’t even want to leave whatever league we are in.🙄 |
If Delap continues to develop but we are relegated, I doubt he would want to return to the Championship, irrespective of the length of his contract with Town. | |
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| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 18:50 - Dec 16 with 1360 views | bluejacko |
| Delap: City's demise bad news for us? on 18:17 - Dec 16 by Radlett_blue |
If Delap continues to develop but we are relegated, I doubt he would want to return to the Championship, irrespective of the length of his contract with Town. |
You or me have no idea on that at all though do we? | | | |
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