| Genuine question for the Faragets. 09:32 - Jan 5 with 4389 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
What policies are you expecting team Trump/Musk/Farage to present and what is it in their characters that you believe will make things better for the average man and woman? |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:38 - Jan 5 with 2517 views | Dubtractor |
They 'tell it like it is' mate. That's all I need to hear.
This is sarcasm, by the way, just in case anyone is unsure. [Post edited 5 Jan 9:39]
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:39 - Jan 5 with 2508 views | redrickstuhaart |
thEy WiLl SToP ThE BotEs |  | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:41 - Jan 5 with 2464 views | Zapers |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:39 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart |
thEy WiLl SToP ThE BotEs |
I guess you mean boats, but that would be a good start | | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:46 - Jan 5 with 2429 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:41 - Jan 5 by Zapers |
I guess you mean boats, but that would be a good start |
.....well that was easy, but now some detail please. | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:50 - Jan 5 with 2412 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:38 - Jan 5 by Dubtractor |
They 'tell it like it is' mate. That's all I need to hear.
This is sarcasm, by the way, just in case anyone is unsure. [Post edited 5 Jan 9:39]
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Sadly Dubbers I suspect that is all it will take, especially with Starmer and co rolling onto their backs for a nice tummy tickle while doing sweet f#ck all about anything of consequence. (I guess that's me telling it like it is....!!)
Happy New Year BTW. | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:52 - Jan 5 with 2389 views | Zapers |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:46 - Jan 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
.....well that was easy, but now some detail please. |
You need to refer that to red rick, he was the one to suggest it | | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:57 - Jan 5 with 2373 views | Dubtractor |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:50 - Jan 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Sadly Dubbers I suspect that is all it will take, especially with Starmer and co rolling onto their backs for a nice tummy tickle while doing sweet f#ck all about anything of consequence. (I guess that's me telling it like it is....!!)
Happy New Year BTW. |
Happy new year to you 3 too! | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:58 - Jan 5 with 2368 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Anti-globalisation, protectionism, wacky foreign policy, and bigotry.
It reads like Jezza’s career- thought you’d love these guys. | | | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:09 - Jan 5 with 2298 views | MattinLondon |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:39 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart |
thEy WiLl SToP ThE BotEs |
Good old Nige will put on his green wellies, wear a Union Jack tie and board a boat with a pair of Fisher Price binoculars. He’ll point to the sea and promise to stop the boats. He’ll then threaten the EU who in turn, will say nice things and then ignore him.
Something about independence, something about reversing the smoking ban, something about hanging and something about teaching kids proper things like selling stuff in outdated imperial measurements.
He’s an unpatriotic idiot and people who support him are unpatriotic sheep. |  | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:09 - Jan 5 with 2303 views | baxterbasics |
I would like to remind the group, there are still old fashioned conservatives and free marketers around that don’t feel well represented by the likes of Farage. Even as a Brexit voter I have never been a fan. As for Trump, he’s no conservative. |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:11 - Jan 5 with 2291 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:52 - Jan 5 by Zapers |
You need to refer that to red rick, he was the one to suggest it |
It sounds like you literally have nothing in the way of policies other than boats then.....what a vision for us all. | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:13 - Jan 5 with 2279 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:52 - Jan 5 by Zapers |
You need to refer that to red rick, he was the one to suggest it |
You realise I have never voted labour in my life, right? | | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:15 - Jan 5 with 2238 views | StokieBlue |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:41 - Jan 5 by Zapers |
I guess you mean boats, but that would be a good start |
You ignored it in the last thread so lets try again:
Given you don't live in the UK or the US, why are you so keen to see those that do live under governments run by awful individuals?
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:20 - Jan 5 with 2183 views | noggin |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:15 - Jan 5 by StokieBlue |
You ignored it in the last thread so lets try again:
Given you don't live in the UK or the US, why are you so keen to see those that do live under governments run by awful individuals?
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The irony of an immigrant who moved abroad for a better life, complaining about immigrants moving abroad for a better life, is lost on him. |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:25 - Jan 5 with 2156 views | Zapers |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:13 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart |
You realise I have never voted labour in my life, right? |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:38 - Jan 5 with 2089 views | lowhouseblue |
you think people are expressing support for farage because of his policies? really? they like farage because he is a rejection of the status quo. he is the 'f!ck them all' candidate just like trump was. trump won because the democrats became toxic to a large swathe of middle class americans. the democrats were seen as elitist and out of touch. polling shows that the trump ad with the biggest impact was "harris is for they / them, trump is for you". if you're actually serious about the uk avoiding farage, rather than just posing on a message board, then you need to hope that starmer achieves growth and rising real wages, and much better public services. you also need him to engage with the voters' 'genuine concerns' (obviously some posters use that phrase as a smug insult, but ignoring people's concerns hasn't done much good so far). starmer needs to get net immigration down (the boats are a very small part of that). if we ever end up with farage it won't be because of his policies, it'll be because the political class has failed to listen to, and has belittled and rejected as thick and racist, a large swathe of working class voters. it'll because we failed to learn from the democrat car crash. |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:40 - Jan 5 with 2068 views | The_Major |
Ah, Farage, the self proclaimed man of the people who banks at the same institution as the Royal Family, and attended Boxing Day hunts.
"Stop the boats" comes the cry - ok then, presumably you're all for safe and legal routes into the UK. Because if you look at a graph of the UK birth rate, you note that the birth rate in the late fifties, so those who are now retiring and leaving the workforce, is far far higher than the birth rate in the mid 2000s that will now be those coming into working age.
So there's a massive gap.Even with full employment, you'd have this discrepancy. It's a simple demographic fact. And you'll get those who say the solution is for British women to become baby machines and have 47 children each or something. But even if you were to say "Righto, we'll get right on it" - any child born now isn't joining the workforce until 2043.
It's dimwitted short sighted nonsense designed to pander to sheep, as said above. And that's why Farage has formed this unholy trinity with a proven sex offender and a narcissitic man baby. And in answer to the question above, I give it six months before Trump and Musk fall out - see Cummings and Johnson for comparison - these people have massive egos and cannot stand to be seen as the junior partner.
The UK government needs to grow some cojones fast - Look at the things Musk has said about Starmer and Jess Phillips in the last 48 hours - we've got to do better than Wes Streeting's pathetic sycophancy yesterday in calling these things out, and calling these people what they are. Appreciate that the realism of international diplomacy means that as far as Trump is concerned, we have to do it through the correct channels, but Musk is not an elected official and shouldn't be exempt from people telling him some home truths.
One last thing - I note that Farage gave his "New Year message" the other day - now, I'll grant you, I wasn't expecting him to be delivering it strolling down the middle of Pier Avenue in Clacton, but he was in, of all places, Blenheim Palace. Obviously trying to pretend he's Churchill.
Which is ironic, because at the end of the day, Farage is no Churchill, he's a Poundland Lord Haw-Haw. A pathetic quisling. A plague on all their houses. |  | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:49 - Jan 5 with 1974 views | lowhouseblue |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:40 - Jan 5 by The_Major |
Ah, Farage, the self proclaimed man of the people who banks at the same institution as the Royal Family, and attended Boxing Day hunts.
"Stop the boats" comes the cry - ok then, presumably you're all for safe and legal routes into the UK. Because if you look at a graph of the UK birth rate, you note that the birth rate in the late fifties, so those who are now retiring and leaving the workforce, is far far higher than the birth rate in the mid 2000s that will now be those coming into working age.
So there's a massive gap.Even with full employment, you'd have this discrepancy. It's a simple demographic fact. And you'll get those who say the solution is for British women to become baby machines and have 47 children each or something. But even if you were to say "Righto, we'll get right on it" - any child born now isn't joining the workforce until 2043.
It's dimwitted short sighted nonsense designed to pander to sheep, as said above. And that's why Farage has formed this unholy trinity with a proven sex offender and a narcissitic man baby. And in answer to the question above, I give it six months before Trump and Musk fall out - see Cummings and Johnson for comparison - these people have massive egos and cannot stand to be seen as the junior partner.
The UK government needs to grow some cojones fast - Look at the things Musk has said about Starmer and Jess Phillips in the last 48 hours - we've got to do better than Wes Streeting's pathetic sycophancy yesterday in calling these things out, and calling these people what they are. Appreciate that the realism of international diplomacy means that as far as Trump is concerned, we have to do it through the correct channels, but Musk is not an elected official and shouldn't be exempt from people telling him some home truths.
One last thing - I note that Farage gave his "New Year message" the other day - now, I'll grant you, I wasn't expecting him to be delivering it strolling down the middle of Pier Avenue in Clacton, but he was in, of all places, Blenheim Palace. Obviously trying to pretend he's Churchill.
Which is ironic, because at the end of the day, Farage is no Churchill, he's a Poundland Lord Haw-Haw. A pathetic quisling. A plague on all their houses. |
but with jess phillips, who i think is absolutely great, why aren't we having a national enquiry into grooming gangs? it involved multiple cities and local enquiries won't necessarily spot wider systematic failures, it is a huge scandal involving the rape of thousands of children, and lots of people (right or wrong) see the failure to have an enquiry as a cover up by those in power and a lack of concern about working class kids. it is the sort of thing farage et al will pick away at to build political discontent. why not have a full enquiry and get everything out in the open? [Post edited 5 Jan 10:49]
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:51 - Jan 5 with 1948 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:49 - Jan 5 by lowhouseblue |
but with jess phillips, who i think is absolutely great, why aren't we having a national enquiry into grooming gangs? it involved multiple cities and local enquiries won't necessarily spot wider systematic failures, it is a huge scandal involving the rape of thousands of children, and lots of people (right or wrong) see the failure to have an enquiry as a cover up by those in power and a lack of concern about working class kids. it is the sort of thing farage et al will pick away at to build political discontent. why not have a full enquiry and get everything out in the open? [Post edited 5 Jan 10:49]
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Because its neither appropriate nor necessary when we have an existing comprehensive enquiry with recommendations that the last government failed to action, and Oldham can (and were preparing) to do their own in an entirely normal and proper manner.
The last government declined to agree a national one as well.
The "need" for this is the creation of Tommy Robinson, Farage et al. Why on earth are people interested in dancing to their tune? | | | |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:54 - Jan 5 with 1911 views | lowhouseblue |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:51 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart |
Because its neither appropriate nor necessary when we have an existing comprehensive enquiry with recommendations that the last government failed to action, and Oldham can (and were preparing) to do their own in an entirely normal and proper manner.
The last government declined to agree a national one as well.
The "need" for this is the creation of Tommy Robinson, Farage et al. Why on earth are people interested in dancing to their tune? |
it's not just about oldham though is it. who amongst the police and social services etc has been held to account as a result of the enquiries to date. why hold out against openness when there is clearly a widespread perception that things are being covered up and action isn't being taken. if you want to defuse the current political discontent, and the rise of farage, politicians need to listen to what lots of voters are concerned by. why let this stuff fester. | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:57 - Jan 5 with 1875 views | Guthrum |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:49 - Jan 5 by lowhouseblue |
but with jess phillips, who i think is absolutely great, why aren't we having a national enquiry into grooming gangs? it involved multiple cities and local enquiries won't necessarily spot wider systematic failures, it is a huge scandal involving the rape of thousands of children, and lots of people (right or wrong) see the failure to have an enquiry as a cover up by those in power and a lack of concern about working class kids. it is the sort of thing farage et al will pick away at to build political discontent. why not have a full enquiry and get everything out in the open? [Post edited 5 Jan 10:49]
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Vast expense and years of time to come to the same conclusions which have already been ignored from the original inquiries.
Quite apart from the fact that grooming gangs are a tiny element of child abuse in the UK, much of which is committed by family members of the victims. |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 11:01 - Jan 5 with 1827 views | Benters |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:20 - Jan 5 by noggin |
The irony of an immigrant who moved abroad for a better life, complaining about immigrants moving abroad for a better life, is lost on him. |
How is Norway today ? |  |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 11:02 - Jan 5 with 1814 views | Benters |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 09:39 - Jan 5 by redrickstuhaart |
thEy WiLl SToP ThE BotEs |
I like that one 😂 | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 11:02 - Jan 5 with 1813 views | lowhouseblue |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:57 - Jan 5 by Guthrum |
Vast expense and years of time to come to the same conclusions which have already been ignored from the original inquiries.
Quite apart from the fact that grooming gangs are a tiny element of child abuse in the UK, much of which is committed by family members of the victims. |
but this is a massive scandal involving the rape of thousands of children. it was a systematic public sector failure across multiple cities. in terms of scale and public concern it ticks all the boxes for a national enquiry. the widespread perception is that we have a political elite which is scared of being open about this. this stuff left fester builds up resentment and empowers opportunists like farage. | |
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| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 11:03 - Jan 5 with 1793 views | Whos_blue |
| Genuine question for the Faragets. on 10:40 - Jan 5 by The_Major |
Ah, Farage, the self proclaimed man of the people who banks at the same institution as the Royal Family, and attended Boxing Day hunts.
"Stop the boats" comes the cry - ok then, presumably you're all for safe and legal routes into the UK. Because if you look at a graph of the UK birth rate, you note that the birth rate in the late fifties, so those who are now retiring and leaving the workforce, is far far higher than the birth rate in the mid 2000s that will now be those coming into working age.
So there's a massive gap.Even with full employment, you'd have this discrepancy. It's a simple demographic fact. And you'll get those who say the solution is for British women to become baby machines and have 47 children each or something. But even if you were to say "Righto, we'll get right on it" - any child born now isn't joining the workforce until 2043.
It's dimwitted short sighted nonsense designed to pander to sheep, as said above. And that's why Farage has formed this unholy trinity with a proven sex offender and a narcissitic man baby. And in answer to the question above, I give it six months before Trump and Musk fall out - see Cummings and Johnson for comparison - these people have massive egos and cannot stand to be seen as the junior partner.
The UK government needs to grow some cojones fast - Look at the things Musk has said about Starmer and Jess Phillips in the last 48 hours - we've got to do better than Wes Streeting's pathetic sycophancy yesterday in calling these things out, and calling these people what they are. Appreciate that the realism of international diplomacy means that as far as Trump is concerned, we have to do it through the correct channels, but Musk is not an elected official and shouldn't be exempt from people telling him some home truths.
One last thing - I note that Farage gave his "New Year message" the other day - now, I'll grant you, I wasn't expecting him to be delivering it strolling down the middle of Pier Avenue in Clacton, but he was in, of all places, Blenheim Palace. Obviously trying to pretend he's Churchill.
Which is ironic, because at the end of the day, Farage is no Churchill, he's a Poundland Lord Haw-Haw. A pathetic quisling. A plague on all their houses. |
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