| Chapter 3 17:10 - Mar 5 with 1904 views | flykickingbybgunn |
There is a lot of negativity on here.
Perhaps it comes from recent hangers on, perhaps not. Either way we should all take a step back and remember that this is only Chapter 3 (Season 1 Episode 3 to the Gen Z supporters) of the Gamechanger administration. They have done incredibly well considering.
So we may go down ? So what ?
Let me remind the depressed people here that we thrashed Coventry 4-1 away with our second team. Yes, this is the Cov that is second in the Champs current form list and 5th overall playing most of their first teamers.. Then we just took the team 3rd in the Prem to penalties. Hope. Positivity.
Personally I missed the Chelsea game and have not seen them win so far this season but so what ? This is a long term support thing.
I'm here looking forward to Chapters 4 and 5. And if the Lord wills 6-16.
What about you ?
COYB
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| We were in the 3rd Division two years ago! (n/t) on 17:12 - Mar 5 with 1872 views | Bloots |
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| Chapter 3 on 17:34 - Mar 5 with 1761 views | FrimleyBlue |
My thoughts are mixed.
The chilled part sees a progressive future regardless and the clubs changed dramatically and is building built behind the scenes to not only look but be prem quality.
The support base has grown to big numbers at the ground and on the network which bodes well for town tv again. Plus we have a core of players who know the championship well. Plus we have a squad full of youngish players with some great experience under them.
The other side sees the negatives but that's just naturally me. This is the first season our ceo became both ceo and chairman and our recruitment team who he manages let's just say at present don't look like they've done a good job. So what does they say about the future with this set up and no one at club level poking ashton saying do you think that's wise. Etc.
Plus we don't know who the manager will be next season or what players will be here. Plus we don't know how much we've upset the culture at the club with how this season has gone. And we saw most say relegation to league would simply be for 1 season. And also we don't know financially how we will be effected despite parachute payments.
So that's where I sit. I'm OK but would very much prefer to stay up if we can. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 17:50 - Mar 5 with 1714 views | J2BLUE |
| Chapter 3 on 17:34 - Mar 5 by FrimleyBlue |
My thoughts are mixed.
The chilled part sees a progressive future regardless and the clubs changed dramatically and is building built behind the scenes to not only look but be prem quality.
The support base has grown to big numbers at the ground and on the network which bodes well for town tv again. Plus we have a core of players who know the championship well. Plus we have a squad full of youngish players with some great experience under them.
The other side sees the negatives but that's just naturally me. This is the first season our ceo became both ceo and chairman and our recruitment team who he manages let's just say at present don't look like they've done a good job. So what does they say about the future with this set up and no one at club level poking ashton saying do you think that's wise. Etc.
Plus we don't know who the manager will be next season or what players will be here. Plus we don't know how much we've upset the culture at the club with how this season has gone. And we saw most say relegation to league would simply be for 1 season. And also we don't know financially how we will be effected despite parachute payments.
So that's where I sit. I'm OK but would very much prefer to stay up if we can. |
How much input did O'Leary have into recruitment? He was part time IIRC.
We've signed good young players. I realise you can spin it either way but fans were excited we had three England U21s in the side.
We should have signed some more experienced cover but overall I think our signings will turn out to be pretty decent over the longer term.
I think people need to acknowledge how big the gap is. Town and Leicester are arguably overperforming when you look at the teams directly above Wolves. Everton and West Ham have a lot of quality and Premier League experience. We're unlikely to bridge that gap with two transfer windows. Surviving on goal difference would be an excellent season. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 17:54 - Mar 5 with 1710 views | Dubtractor |
I think it is possible to be both of the following things:
1) Hugely happy with where we are as a club, even if (when) we end up back in the Championship next season.
2) Disappointed with what has been a fairly poor season, with us ultimately falling well short of the level needed.
There are loads of caveats to point 2, not least that our performance seems the be the new norm for promoted clubs, let alone on the back of a double promotion, but this season has mostly been a tough watch. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:09 - Mar 5 with 1647 views | Illinoisblue |
| Chapter 3 on 17:54 - Mar 5 by Dubtractor |
I think it is possible to be both of the following things:
1) Hugely happy with where we are as a club, even if (when) we end up back in the Championship next season.
2) Disappointed with what has been a fairly poor season, with us ultimately falling well short of the level needed.
There are loads of caveats to point 2, not least that our performance seems the be the new norm for promoted clubs, let alone on the back of a double promotion, but this season has mostly been a tough watch. |
Bingo dubs. For me the biggest disappointment is this was supposed to be different - the investment, the ambition, the momentum, the massive transfer spend - yet we’re likely going down with barely more than a whimper. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:15 - Mar 5 with 1617 views | J2BLUE |
| Chapter 3 on 18:09 - Mar 5 by Illinoisblue |
Bingo dubs. For me the biggest disappointment is this was supposed to be different - the investment, the ambition, the momentum, the massive transfer spend - yet we’re likely going down with barely more than a whimper. |
Look at the table. We have lost less games than Wolves. The margins are very fine. A few more goals, a little bit of luck, a few decisions going our way and without wishing to attack Muric, perhaps a different keeper, and we would have more points. I know our points total is our points total and saying if this happened and if that happened is pointless but the margins really are fine.
11 games to go and we could fine ourselves on the other side of those margins. I don't think it's fair to say we're going down with a whimper.
Cunha has scored 35% of Wolves' goals. 40% away from home. This isn't over yet. | |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:19 - Mar 5 with 1589 views | positivity |
| Chapter 3 on 18:09 - Mar 5 by Illinoisblue |
Bingo dubs. For me the biggest disappointment is this was supposed to be different - the investment, the ambition, the momentum, the massive transfer spend - yet we’re likely going down with barely more than a whimper. |
i think we were naive if we thought that momentum and an above average transfer spend would enable us to bridge gaps which have been building year-on-year, window-on-window for a long time (decades in many cases).
fine for us as a fanbase to be naive, but the club will have planned for the worst; they're serious people now |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:19 - Mar 5 with 1591 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Chapter 3 on 18:09 - Mar 5 by Illinoisblue |
Bingo dubs. For me the biggest disappointment is this was supposed to be different - the investment, the ambition, the momentum, the massive transfer spend - yet we’re likely going down with barely more than a whimper. |
I get where you're coming from, but a positive has to be finishing above Leicester and Southampton (assuming we do).
They have both had Premier League money for most of the last 10 years, and 1st year parachute payments the year they weren't. If you take the-glass-half-full approach, we've done well competing with them. Maybe we fall just short of safety this season, but we can come back much stronger.
It does go to show how massive the step up is. | | | |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:28 - Mar 5 with 1541 views | MK1 |
I'm on chapter 53. Hope to get to at least chapter 65. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:29 - Mar 5 with 1539 views | LankHenners |
| Chapter 3 on 18:15 - Mar 5 by J2BLUE |
Look at the table. We have lost less games than Wolves. The margins are very fine. A few more goals, a little bit of luck, a few decisions going our way and without wishing to attack Muric, perhaps a different keeper, and we would have more points. I know our points total is our points total and saying if this happened and if that happened is pointless but the margins really are fine.
11 games to go and we could fine ourselves on the other side of those margins. I don't think it's fair to say we're going down with a whimper.
Cunha has scored 35% of Wolves' goals. 40% away from home. This isn't over yet. |
I think something people have lost sight of is that if a team finishes 17th in a 20-team league, it (generally) means their results have largely been pretty negative, but they've managed to perform slightly better than the team in 18th.
It's fair enough to say we've not done enough ourselves to get more points (and feel a bit flat about that), but there's a danger of recent disappointing results/performances dictating the overall narrative of the season a bit too much.
Barring a ridiculous surge, or massive drop, in form for either us or Wolves (or Leicester I suppose), it's likely to be fairly close between 17th and 18th. Would it mean that both those teams have had difficult seasons? Yes. Does it mean one was massively better across all the games than the other? No. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:29 - Mar 5 with 1532 views | Dubtractor |
| Chapter 3 on 18:15 - Mar 5 by J2BLUE |
Look at the table. We have lost less games than Wolves. The margins are very fine. A few more goals, a little bit of luck, a few decisions going our way and without wishing to attack Muric, perhaps a different keeper, and we would have more points. I know our points total is our points total and saying if this happened and if that happened is pointless but the margins really are fine.
11 games to go and we could fine ourselves on the other side of those margins. I don't think it's fair to say we're going down with a whimper.
Cunha has scored 35% of Wolves' goals. 40% away from home. This isn't over yet. |
Appreciate that Wolves are our target this season, but it's worth considering that Wolves will almost certainly end up with a points total that would see them relegated most seasons*. There is a 10 point gap to the next team!
*Obviously I still cling to the hope that they will get relegated, and we stay up, but I can't see it if I'm being frank. 3 wins and less than a goal a game scored, coupled with us now having a major injury list, makes me feel pretty pessimistic. I've made my peace with relegation now. | |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:35 - Mar 5 with 1505 views | J2BLUE |
| Chapter 3 on 18:29 - Mar 5 by LankHenners |
I think something people have lost sight of is that if a team finishes 17th in a 20-team league, it (generally) means their results have largely been pretty negative, but they've managed to perform slightly better than the team in 18th.
It's fair enough to say we've not done enough ourselves to get more points (and feel a bit flat about that), but there's a danger of recent disappointing results/performances dictating the overall narrative of the season a bit too much.
Barring a ridiculous surge, or massive drop, in form for either us or Wolves (or Leicester I suppose), it's likely to be fairly close between 17th and 18th. Would it mean that both those teams have had difficult seasons? Yes. Does it mean one was massively better across all the games than the other? No. |
The difference between us and Wolves is they have an elite player who is single-handedly saving them.
Cunha's lethal finishing is the difference. He has scored 13 goals. His xG is 6.62. He is having an extraordinary season.
By comparison, Delap's xG is 10.1 and he has scored 10 goals. Very good but not hitting the heights of Cunha (even Salah is not coming close and Haaland is actually slightly below xG). [Post edited 5 Mar 20:07]
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| Chapter 3 on 18:37 - Mar 5 with 1491 views | Mullet |
I don’t care as long as these patronising “everything is brilliant or else” posts end. We seem to have them most days and they just make people sound delusional.
It’s been miserable barely winning, being patted on the head by media and tourist fans alike. The whole dewy eyed gawping and just being happy to be here mentality is even worse than that of any hangers on.
I’m an Ipswich fan, I want Ipswich to win, I want us to compete. Not spaff myself to sawdust cos I saw some famous stuff and participated. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:38 - Mar 5 with 1479 views | J2BLUE |
| Chapter 3 on 18:29 - Mar 5 by Dubtractor |
Appreciate that Wolves are our target this season, but it's worth considering that Wolves will almost certainly end up with a points total that would see them relegated most seasons*. There is a 10 point gap to the next team!
*Obviously I still cling to the hope that they will get relegated, and we stay up, but I can't see it if I'm being frank. 3 wins and less than a goal a game scored, coupled with us now having a major injury list, makes me feel pretty pessimistic. I've made my peace with relegation now. |
Agree, we will probably go down but I think the strong criticism (from others) is wrong.
A second season in the Prem to retain our best players and add some experience would be huge. | |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:46 - Mar 5 with 1421 views | Illinoisblue |
| Chapter 3 on 18:19 - Mar 5 by positivity |
i think we were naive if we thought that momentum and an above average transfer spend would enable us to bridge gaps which have been building year-on-year, window-on-window for a long time (decades in many cases).
fine for us as a fanbase to be naive, but the club will have planned for the worst; they're serious people now |
It’s definitely been a rude awakening to see how far the smaller mid tier clubs are in front of us in terms of squad strength and recruitment. We’ve a lot of catching up to do. | |
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| Chapter 3 on 18:48 - Mar 5 with 1410 views | Illinoisblue |
| Chapter 3 on 18:19 - Mar 5 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I get where you're coming from, but a positive has to be finishing above Leicester and Southampton (assuming we do).
They have both had Premier League money for most of the last 10 years, and 1st year parachute payments the year they weren't. If you take the-glass-half-full approach, we've done well competing with them. Maybe we fall just short of safety this season, but we can come back much stronger.
It does go to show how massive the step up is. |
I take your general point but being slightly less worse than those two is really not much of a consolation . | |
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| Chapter 3 on 19:12 - Mar 5 with 1255 views | positivity |
| Chapter 3 on 18:46 - Mar 5 by Illinoisblue |
It’s definitely been a rude awakening to see how far the smaller mid tier clubs are in front of us in terms of squad strength and recruitment. We’ve a lot of catching up to do. |
50 million here, 100 million there. every window for years. it's scary stuff! | |
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| Chapter 3 on 19:18 - Mar 5 with 1227 views | Swansea_Blue |
Don’t take the Championship lightly. Lots of us seem to think that relegation is no problem at all because we’re bound to bounce back up and quote Ashton’s plan as ‘evidence’.
The Championship doesn’t give a monkeys about Aston’s plan. Maybe we would bounce back, maybe we wouldn’t. Staying in the PL is by FAR the better option if we can somehow manage it. |  |
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| Chapter 3 on 20:38 - Mar 5 with 1082 views | syntaxerror |
Most pundits tipped us to be 20th.
We aren’t.
Our squad needed huge investment to compete, and the fact that we are is down to team spirit, management and a future England striker.
Yes, we recruited with the possibility of going back down, and not everyone has been great in the premiership, but we are in a much stronger position to bounce back.
Buying a bunch of aging premiership level players would have cost much the same as what we spent, with much less resale value.
Out strategy might not keep all the fans happy, but it’s a sound one. |  | | |
| Chapter 3 on 21:43 - Mar 5 with 988 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I supported the club in Ferguson's time, in the Duncan years, whilst Roy Keane was boss and Jewell, Hirst, Lambert and Cook.
I have enjoyed being a fan under Lyall, Burley and Royle. No way am I doing anything other than enjoying McKenna's tenure. Anyone who isn't is welcome to let me have their ticket! |  |
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