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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back 13:14 - Aug 17 with 1934 viewsIllinoisblue

So sluggish

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:16 - Aug 17 with 1900 viewsgainsboroughblue

I'm having kittens watching it.

Also, our midfield needs serious work but we already knew that.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:16 - Aug 17 with 1905 viewsgreyhound

Cancel muric loan calls when
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 with 1883 viewsKievthegreat

Matusiwa and Taylor don't open up and turn like Morsy could. It brings the rest of the team into it. Without that The only option is pass it back again. We seem to only get it out by getting it to the fullback atm.
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 with 1878 viewsJ2BLUE

Palmer isn't suited to it. Takes too long and then he only has one option which is closed down immediately.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:18 - Aug 17 with 1860 viewsDarkHorse

Bring back Hladky.
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:18 - Aug 17 with 1837 viewsIllinoisblue

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 by J2BLUE

Palmer isn't suited to it. Takes too long and then he only has one option which is closed down immediately.


Yep it’s a disaster waiting to happen

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:21 - Aug 17 with 1763 viewssurreyblue

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 by Kievthegreat

Matusiwa and Taylor don't open up and turn like Morsy could. It brings the rest of the team into it. Without that The only option is pass it back again. We seem to only get it out by getting it to the fullback atm.


We are replacing Morsy and Luongo but not necessarily like for like. Hopefully Cajuste can replace that turn, drive and pass, whereas while Matusiwa has looked a bit ropey on the ball I've been pretty impressed with him defensively
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:23 - Aug 17 with 1740 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 by J2BLUE

Palmer isn't suited to it. Takes too long and then he only has one option which is closed down immediately.


If Palmer was Muric the board would be bursting with criticism. Palmer seems to just be seen as safer, probably because of his start, and clearly Muric turned straight to unsafe very early days.
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:23 - Aug 17 with 1719 viewsITFC_84

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 by J2BLUE

Palmer isn't suited to it. Takes too long and then he only has one option which is closed down immediately.


This. Palmer just isn’t quite up to playing out from the back. Not quick enough with his decision making when ball is on the floor
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:09 - Aug 17 with 1429 viewsBluesky

Palmer frequently looks so surprised when he's given a back pass. We seriously miss Morsy's confidence picking the ball up from the centre backs
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:18 - Aug 17 with 1355 viewspointofblue

It's not just a lack of Morsy but a lack of Woolfenden as well. We don't have that calming presence on the ball at the back. We've arguably improved in the positions in a basic sense, but not with to suit our style of play.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:21 - Aug 17 with 1327 viewsSWLondonBlue93

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:23 - Aug 17 by Axeldalai_lama

If Palmer was Muric the board would be bursting with criticism. Palmer seems to just be seen as safer, probably because of his start, and clearly Muric turned straight to unsafe very early days.


I was high on Palmer initially, probably because of that initial feeling of safety, but the more I see of him the less convinced he is the man for what we're trying to do. He seems to be getting away with his errors. What's Vas up to these days?
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:37 - Aug 17 with 1203 viewsstiff_talking

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:21 - Aug 17 by SWLondonBlue93

I was high on Palmer initially, probably because of that initial feeling of safety, but the more I see of him the less convinced he is the man for what we're trying to do. He seems to be getting away with his errors. What's Vas up to these days?
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Southampton conceded a goal trying to play the ball out from the back. We didn’t.

At times we looked stressed but we were behave with the ball and I thought overall improvement from Birmingham.
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:40 - Aug 17 with 1149 viewstractor_lady

If fans hadnt hounded him out we could’ve given Muric a chance at championship level - he won golden glove after all…. He naturally suits playing out from the back. Be careful what you wish for! Palmer got away with it previously as Morsy was always there - today he went into panic mode several times. A good keeper undoubtedly but not one suited to our style of play
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:52 - Aug 17 with 1053 viewsEuanTown

Palmer to Taylor was a problem waiting to happen every time.
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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:55 - Aug 17 with 1027 viewsGlasgowBlue

I can’t see how we persist with it having Palmer in goal. But it was the building block of our success in the promotion season so the only solution is to get in a new keeper.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 15:00 - Aug 17 with 976 viewsGlasgowBlue

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 14:37 - Aug 17 by stiff_talking

Southampton conceded a goal trying to play the ball out from the back. We didn’t.

At times we looked stressed but we were behave with the ball and I thought overall improvement from Birmingham.


It’s not so much about conceding goals from playing out the back. It’s a high risk high reward tactic. It’s about how many goals we scored by using that system with Hladky.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 15:27 - Aug 17 with 894 viewsPlums

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 13:17 - Aug 17 by J2BLUE

Palmer isn't suited to it. Takes too long and then he only has one option which is closed down immediately.


Isn't the 'taking too long' part of the plan? To draw the forwards onto the keeper?
None of us know what instruction he's been given but Walton and Hladky both used to stand on the ball and wait for the striker to approach before playing.

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Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 15:29 - Aug 17 with 875 viewstractor_lady

Painful trying to watch us play out from the back on 15:27 - Aug 17 by Plums

Isn't the 'taking too long' part of the plan? To draw the forwards onto the keeper?
None of us know what instruction he's been given but Walton and Hladky both used to stand on the ball and wait for the striker to approach before playing.


Its more the indecisiveness tbh….. really does not look comfortable
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