| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) 21:29 - May 10 with 4098 views | Pippin1970 |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:30 - May 10 with 3689 views | SitfcB |
They like the drama of stuff like that.
They love to stir things up  |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:33 - May 10 with 3658 views | pointofblue |
The interesting question, and I don't mean this to sound overly negative, is why would any Premier League side be interested in McKenna at this point? He didn't really make a mark two seasons ago, albeit with a lot against him. He's clearly an excellent coach but, to an established Premier League side and even a club like Celtic, he would be perceived as a risk. | |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:34 - May 10 with 3629 views | J2BLUE |
Transfer window hasn't got started. Need something to talk about.
I always think football journalists for newspapers make things up using a specific method. I noticed it years ago when we were a mid table Championship club. We would get bundled in with another couple of average mid table but reasonably big clubs and every time we were linked with a player they would be linked to. It's like they make something up to give that story as many eyes on it as possible.
McKenna could leave - Ipswich
Could go to Palace - Palace
If they don't get Iraola - Bournemouth
Who has a choice of Palace or Chelsea - Chelsea
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:36 - May 10 with 3610 views | KBsSocks |
National Newspapers must be stupid, I suppose. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 22:54 - May 10 with 3285 views | MaySixth |
Because McKenna is tired of constantly managing up to Mark Ashton and the drama around him |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 23:09 - May 10 with 3215 views | KBsSocks |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 22:54 - May 10 by MaySixth |
Because McKenna is tired of constantly managing up to Mark Ashton and the drama around him |
I don't think that will make him want to leave.
But I also don't think he will want to put up with any nonsense that might affect his team, staff, and the crowd. And the Community.
He will put up with Ashton, as Ashton's issues are not worth KMc's time, I posit. An annoying distraction, but not football. | |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 04:43 - May 11 with 2870 views | nrb1985 |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:33 - May 10 by pointofblue |
The interesting question, and I don't mean this to sound overly negative, is why would any Premier League side be interested in McKenna at this point? He didn't really make a mark two seasons ago, albeit with a lot against him. He's clearly an excellent coach but, to an established Premier League side and even a club like Celtic, he would be perceived as a risk. |
Brighton and Palace offered him a job with even less experience than he has now.
Not keeping a league 1 team in the PL I doubt dents his record much in most people’s eyes. | | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 05:11 - May 11 with 2851 views | wilhirecup |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 04:43 - May 11 by nrb1985 |
Brighton and Palace offered him a job with even less experience than he has now.
Not keeping a league 1 team in the PL I doubt dents his record much in most people’s eyes. |
it was in the sunday sun written by a norwich fan journo ,enough said ! | | | |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 05:56 - May 11 with 2747 views | nrb1985 |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 05:11 - May 11 by wilhirecup |
it was in the sunday sun written by a norwich fan journo ,enough said ! |
That wasn’t the question posed. It was why would anyone offer him a PL job atm. | | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 06:05 - May 11 with 2715 views | Benters |
What will be will be. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 06:27 - May 11 with 2655 views | Len_Brennan |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:33 - May 10 by pointofblue |
The interesting question, and I don't mean this to sound overly negative, is why would any Premier League side be interested in McKenna at this point? He didn't really make a mark two seasons ago, albeit with a lot against him. He's clearly an excellent coach but, to an established Premier League side and even a club like Celtic, he would be perceived as a risk. |
This is a fair point; his stock was higher after the previous promotion than it is now, because he had only had success at that point having gone from League 1 to the Premier League back to back. The relegation, and the manner of it, definitely took the shine off somewhat; while Sunderland's performance this season (& Leeds's) will also have given some prospective employers a bit of context to mull over.
However, having said all that, getting Ipswich up again, for the 3rd promotion in 4 years, will definitely be enough to have more than one PL club interested in appointing him.
The Crystal Palace job is one I'd like to see someone appointed to asap, because they have previously tried to lure him there, are a well run club, established in the PL & have some quality players already proven at the level. They have known that Glastner is going for some time now &, unlike Bournemouth, haven't made any public moves to secure a replacement, which they surely have done behind the scenes; this suggests they have targeted a manager that is currently employed & are waiting until the season is over, in the league & in Europe, before announcing it, to avoid any distractions.
Looking at it, objectively, from McKenna's point of view, he has done wonders with us getting us to the PL far earlier than expected & then getting us back there again immediately after relegation, placing us in a much better place in terms of quality of player, infrastructure & financial footing. Keeping us up is almost expected this time, so finishing 17th will not now be viewed as a major success in the whole, while another relegation would absolutely be seen as a failure.
What is in it for him, in terms of his career & overall status, to spend the season fighting relegation, if the option to be managing a strong mid-table side fighting to be top half or even for European football; not to mention the fact that Palace will qualify for the Europa League if they win the Conference final, so he may well be managing in Europe next season if he was to take the job at Crystal Palace. All of that should bring him far closer to his ultimate dream of managing Manchester United or another potential title chasing side also playing in the Champions League; last time we went up he probably wasn't ready for all that, but now he is looking at Michael Carrick & thinking that could/should be me.
He has been brilliant for us and clearly loves the club & the area, I also think he is a genuine guy who would always have wanted to bring the club to the PL, while obviously receiving the compensation he feels he would have been due had he taken other options available to him; however, we have to recognise that he isn't one of us, for whom Ipswich Town have been our club since we were kids, & will always be our primary love (outside of family members), he will move on to bigger opportunities at some point, like countless others have done in the past, some of whom were local lads who also supported the club. It could happen over the coming weeks. [Post edited 11 May 6:31]
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 07:56 - May 11 with 2264 views | Texaco73 |
McK still needs to prove himself at a higher level iIMO.
The Nodge are just taking spoonfuls of copium and hoping he leaves.
Would have thought Clemente is more likely to be targeted by bigger teams in the Championship after pulling them out of the fire. They should be more worried. |  | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:00 - May 11 with 2237 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 21:34 - May 10 by J2BLUE |
Transfer window hasn't got started. Need something to talk about.
I always think football journalists for newspapers make things up using a specific method. I noticed it years ago when we were a mid table Championship club. We would get bundled in with another couple of average mid table but reasonably big clubs and every time we were linked with a player they would be linked to. It's like they make something up to give that story as many eyes on it as possible.
McKenna could leave - Ipswich
Could go to Palace - Palace
If they don't get Iraola - Bournemouth
Who has a choice of Palace or Chelsea - Chelsea
etc etc. |
I particularly enjoyed this one ..
Headline: Ipswich Town stars fear manager Kieran McKenna may leave ..
And the only quotes in the whole article are of Mckenna post QPR speaking about how much it means.
Just rank clickbait journalism.
https://www.dailymail.com/spor | | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:09 - May 11 with 2180 views | NedPlimpton |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 06:27 - May 11 by Len_Brennan |
This is a fair point; his stock was higher after the previous promotion than it is now, because he had only had success at that point having gone from League 1 to the Premier League back to back. The relegation, and the manner of it, definitely took the shine off somewhat; while Sunderland's performance this season (& Leeds's) will also have given some prospective employers a bit of context to mull over.
However, having said all that, getting Ipswich up again, for the 3rd promotion in 4 years, will definitely be enough to have more than one PL club interested in appointing him.
The Crystal Palace job is one I'd like to see someone appointed to asap, because they have previously tried to lure him there, are a well run club, established in the PL & have some quality players already proven at the level. They have known that Glastner is going for some time now &, unlike Bournemouth, haven't made any public moves to secure a replacement, which they surely have done behind the scenes; this suggests they have targeted a manager that is currently employed & are waiting until the season is over, in the league & in Europe, before announcing it, to avoid any distractions.
Looking at it, objectively, from McKenna's point of view, he has done wonders with us getting us to the PL far earlier than expected & then getting us back there again immediately after relegation, placing us in a much better place in terms of quality of player, infrastructure & financial footing. Keeping us up is almost expected this time, so finishing 17th will not now be viewed as a major success in the whole, while another relegation would absolutely be seen as a failure.
What is in it for him, in terms of his career & overall status, to spend the season fighting relegation, if the option to be managing a strong mid-table side fighting to be top half or even for European football; not to mention the fact that Palace will qualify for the Europa League if they win the Conference final, so he may well be managing in Europe next season if he was to take the job at Crystal Palace. All of that should bring him far closer to his ultimate dream of managing Manchester United or another potential title chasing side also playing in the Champions League; last time we went up he probably wasn't ready for all that, but now he is looking at Michael Carrick & thinking that could/should be me.
He has been brilliant for us and clearly loves the club & the area, I also think he is a genuine guy who would always have wanted to bring the club to the PL, while obviously receiving the compensation he feels he would have been due had he taken other options available to him; however, we have to recognise that he isn't one of us, for whom Ipswich Town have been our club since we were kids, & will always be our primary love (outside of family members), he will move on to bigger opportunities at some point, like countless others have done in the past, some of whom were local lads who also supported the club. It could happen over the coming weeks. [Post edited 11 May 6:31]
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"keeping us up is almost expected this time"
Is it? We will almost certainly be strong favourites for relegation along with the other promoted sides
We'd have to have one hell of a summer in the transfer window to put us ahead of any of the current PL clubs in terms of likelihood to stay up |  | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:25 - May 11 with 2045 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:00 - May 11 by Bellevue_Blue |
I particularly enjoyed this one ..
Headline: Ipswich Town stars fear manager Kieran McKenna may leave ..
And the only quotes in the whole article are of Mckenna post QPR speaking about how much it means.
Just rank clickbait journalism.
https://www.dailymail.com/spor |
Jounos making copy. |  | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:37 - May 11 with 1937 views | Herbivore |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 07:56 - May 11 by Texaco73 |
McK still needs to prove himself at a higher level iIMO.
The Nodge are just taking spoonfuls of copium and hoping he leaves.
Would have thought Clemente is more likely to be targeted by bigger teams in the Championship after pulling them out of the fire. They should be more worried. |
The same Clement that McKenna completely out-thought when we beat them at Carrow Road?
I find it bizarre that some of our fans think McKenna wouldn't appeal to a more established Prem side. When he took over we were bottom half in League 1 and he's now taken us back to the Prem a second time in four and a half years. The head winds against us in our first season back were too strong but even then he showed enough until January to impress people, we were making a decent fight of it for quite a while which I think has been coloured by the collapse from January onwards (for which there are many reasons). He's one of the brightest young managers in Europe and we're lucky to have him. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:37 - May 11 with 1935 views | Scuzzer |
Because they have to produce content for them to make money out of. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 13:23 - May 11 with 1533 views | PioneerBlue |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 22:54 - May 10 by MaySixth |
Because McKenna is tired of constantly managing up to Mark Ashton and the drama around him |
But would love 6-9 months at Chelsea or the small club vibe at Brentford or the opportunity at an unfashionable crystal palace rather than the biggest club in East Anglia. | |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 13:35 - May 11 with 1457 views | RetroBlue |
He's proved nothing at this level , yet. In fact quite the reverse. He needs to stay here and show what he can do and if he has developed as a manager at the higher level. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:11 - May 11 with 1317 views | NederlandseBlue |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:37 - May 11 by Herbivore |
The same Clement that McKenna completely out-thought when we beat them at Carrow Road?
I find it bizarre that some of our fans think McKenna wouldn't appeal to a more established Prem side. When he took over we were bottom half in League 1 and he's now taken us back to the Prem a second time in four and a half years. The head winds against us in our first season back were too strong but even then he showed enough until January to impress people, we were making a decent fight of it for quite a while which I think has been coloured by the collapse from January onwards (for which there are many reasons). He's one of the brightest young managers in Europe and we're lucky to have him. |
I think there's a narrative (which is rather unfair), that our success has been (at least partially) bought and is therefore not down to great management. Clearly big budgets do not guarantee success either but it lessens the perceived achievement.
We all know the investment that has been necessary to drag us up from the depths we had sunk, and that we have not spent that much on a net basis. But the headlines of regularly splashing 10 million+ have made us appear to be high spenders. | |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:18 - May 11 with 1279 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 08:09 - May 11 by NedPlimpton |
"keeping us up is almost expected this time"
Is it? We will almost certainly be strong favourites for relegation along with the other promoted sides
We'd have to have one hell of a summer in the transfer window to put us ahead of any of the current PL clubs in terms of likelihood to stay up |
Yep. KM keeping us up would be a monumental achievement.
As it has been for Le Bris and Farke.
I expect the Prem to be harder next season too. |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:43 - May 11 with 1176 views | lazyblue |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 22:54 - May 10 by MaySixth |
Because McKenna is tired of constantly managing up to Mark Ashton and the drama around him |
Sorry to disappoint you but they get on very very well | | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:48 - May 11 with 1149 views | NedPlimpton |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:18 - May 11 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Yep. KM keeping us up would be a monumental achievement.
As it has been for Le Bris and Farke.
I expect the Prem to be harder next season too. |
There's an argument to be made for it being slightly easier as Leeds and Sunderland are staying up and replacing two more established Prem sides in Wolves and West Ham/Spurs
Would still be an incredible achievement and i'd absolutely bite your hand off now for 17th on GD | | | |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:51 - May 11 with 1136 views | LeoMuff |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:43 - May 11 by lazyblue |
Sorry to disappoint you but they get on very very well |
So Mark says… |  |
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| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 15:24 - May 11 with 1023 views | Herbivore |
| Why are national newspapers convinced Mckenna leave this summer? (n/t) on 14:11 - May 11 by NederlandseBlue |
I think there's a narrative (which is rather unfair), that our success has been (at least partially) bought and is therefore not down to great management. Clearly big budgets do not guarantee success either but it lessens the perceived achievement.
We all know the investment that has been necessary to drag us up from the depths we had sunk, and that we have not spent that much on a net basis. But the headlines of regularly splashing 10 million+ have made us appear to be high spenders. |
Where has this narrative come from, because it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. It was true in League 1 but we spent very little on promotion to the Championship and had a tiny budget compared to the parachute clubs that season and not a particularly big budget compared to the rest either. | |
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