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Biden has gone for it again 23:33 - May 5 with 1624 viewsStokieBlue

He's stated he supports the waiving of IP rights for C19 vaccines so that the poorer nations of the world can get vaccinated.

This is clearly a massive move and one I really didn't expect from the US but Biden is really changing the game with regards to US policy.

Seems to already be quite a big push back against this decision and not just from the usual suspects in the US.

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Biden has gone for it again on 23:38 - May 5 with 1591 viewsSpruceMoose

Nah mate. Some forum big brain put on here the other day that he hadn't even dun duffink yet and was some kind of swamp monster compared to the saintly Donald Trump.

And that's what I'll be believing.

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Biden has gone for it again on 07:08 - May 6 with 1378 viewsGeoffSentence

There is an argument against waiving IP for covid vaccines, a sensible one

https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccines-why-waiving-patents-wont-fix-global-s

Bullet poins being

IP rights are not getting in the way of vaccine roll out, technical issues are the main problem
IP rights encourage vaccine development - eg. Oxford could not have developed their vaccine without a commercial partner, IP rights were essential for brinng AZ on board

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Biden has gone for it again on 07:26 - May 6 with 1343 views26_Paz

Biden has gone for it again on 23:38 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Nah mate. Some forum big brain put on here the other day that he hadn't even dun duffink yet and was some kind of swamp monster compared to the saintly Donald Trump.

And that's what I'll be believing.


He hadn’t done this at that point.
Agree with the OP this is a very positive move. Fair play to him and well done.

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Biden has gone for it again on 07:34 - May 6 with 1320 viewsStokieBlue

Biden has gone for it again on 07:08 - May 6 by GeoffSentence

There is an argument against waiving IP for covid vaccines, a sensible one

https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccines-why-waiving-patents-wont-fix-global-s

Bullet poins being

IP rights are not getting in the way of vaccine roll out, technical issues are the main problem
IP rights encourage vaccine development - eg. Oxford could not have developed their vaccine without a commercial partner, IP rights were essential for brinng AZ on board


AZ aren't making any profit out of the vaccine during the pandemic though - it's being sold at cost price whilst the WHO declares C19 a pandemic (which will be years probably) and even after that it's going to continue to be sold at cost price to developing nations so profit doesn't seem to have been their main aim. Totally different for the US manufacturers of course who are charging 20 USD+ a shot or whatever it is.

Fully understand the arguments against but if it can allow greater production and more distribution to poorer countries it's going to be a good thing - at the moment it's 1 in 4 people vaccinated in rich western countries and 1 in 500 in poorer countries and that is where the mutant strains are going to come from. Raw materials are an issue but if production is increased then supply chains often follow.

Either way Biden is certainly taking things in a different direction in the US.

SB
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Biden has gone for it again on 07:49 - May 6 with 1290 viewsnoggin

Biden has gone for it again on 23:38 - May 5 by SpruceMoose

Nah mate. Some forum big brain put on here the other day that he hadn't even dun duffink yet and was some kind of swamp monster compared to the saintly Donald Trump.

And that's what I'll be believing.


You just dunt like peepol what say it like it is, innit.

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Biden has gone for it again on 07:57 - May 6 with 1267 viewsPinewoodblue

Biden has gone for it again on 07:08 - May 6 by GeoffSentence

There is an argument against waiving IP for covid vaccines, a sensible one

https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccines-why-waiving-patents-wont-fix-global-s

Bullet poins being

IP rights are not getting in the way of vaccine roll out, technical issues are the main problem
IP rights encourage vaccine development - eg. Oxford could not have developed their vaccine without a commercial partner, IP rights were essential for brinng AZ on board


Initial development was funded by IK government, Astra Zenica came on board later.

Pretty sure both UK and EU were against the proposal but presumably will now change their stance.

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Biden has gone for it again on 08:59 - May 6 with 1198 viewshomer_123

If you look deeper into his policies (such as the Rescue Package) - there's way more in there than many had predicted and also what 'safe Joe' was assumed to be doing.

Poorer families could be receiving $3,000 per child per annum for example - that's a significant chunk of money and is predicted to lift millions of youngsters out of poverty. It's going way further than Obama ever did (think Biden is on record as saying that Obama didn't go far enough).

The plans he has for infrastructure is also hugely substantive, potentially creating millions of job for Americans and building/ improving the basics within the US which have been allowed to deteriorate over the years (bridges and roads). In addition, in an effort to create more equity, if you look closely, it also covers things like improved digital access as well. We are talking 'trillions' of dollars of investment.

Anyone thinking that Biden was simply going to hold the reigns until a younger incumbent comes in has been misguided to say the least.

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Biden has gone for it again on 10:27 - May 6 with 1130 viewsBlueBadger

Biden has gone for it again on 07:26 - May 6 by 26_Paz

He hadn’t done this at that point.
Agree with the OP this is a very positive move. Fair play to him and well done.


LOL

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Biden has gone for it again on 10:28 - May 6 with 1125 viewsStokieBlue

Biden has gone for it again on 08:59 - May 6 by homer_123

If you look deeper into his policies (such as the Rescue Package) - there's way more in there than many had predicted and also what 'safe Joe' was assumed to be doing.

Poorer families could be receiving $3,000 per child per annum for example - that's a significant chunk of money and is predicted to lift millions of youngsters out of poverty. It's going way further than Obama ever did (think Biden is on record as saying that Obama didn't go far enough).

The plans he has for infrastructure is also hugely substantive, potentially creating millions of job for Americans and building/ improving the basics within the US which have been allowed to deteriorate over the years (bridges and roads). In addition, in an effort to create more equity, if you look closely, it also covers things like improved digital access as well. We are talking 'trillions' of dollars of investment.

Anyone thinking that Biden was simply going to hold the reigns until a younger incumbent comes in has been misguided to say the least.


I think it's possible that because he is likely to be a one-term president (mainly due to age) he can push through these policies without worrying about whether people will vote for him in the next election.

He's doing some really good stuff.

SB
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Biden has gone for it again on 10:41 - May 6 with 1095 viewstonybied

Biden has gone for it again on 08:59 - May 6 by homer_123

If you look deeper into his policies (such as the Rescue Package) - there's way more in there than many had predicted and also what 'safe Joe' was assumed to be doing.

Poorer families could be receiving $3,000 per child per annum for example - that's a significant chunk of money and is predicted to lift millions of youngsters out of poverty. It's going way further than Obama ever did (think Biden is on record as saying that Obama didn't go far enough).

The plans he has for infrastructure is also hugely substantive, potentially creating millions of job for Americans and building/ improving the basics within the US which have been allowed to deteriorate over the years (bridges and roads). In addition, in an effort to create more equity, if you look closely, it also covers things like improved digital access as well. We are talking 'trillions' of dollars of investment.

Anyone thinking that Biden was simply going to hold the reigns until a younger incumbent comes in has been misguided to say the least.


This is really what needs to happen on our shores too.

Our infrastructure is crumbling around us and more and more kids fall into poverty. Yet our government continue to cut budgets or invest in white elephant projects such as HS2.

This is the kind of spending that would help the economy bounce back much quicker and would benefit everyone.
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Biden has gone for it again on 11:45 - May 6 with 1047 viewsSpruceMoose

Biden has gone for it again on 07:26 - May 6 by 26_Paz

He hadn’t done this at that point.
Agree with the OP this is a very positive move. Fair play to him and well done.


Idiot.

Careful Paz, you almost got yourself banned for this exact trolling earlier this week...
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Biden has gone for it again on 11:50 - May 6 with 1046 viewsBlueBadger

Biden has gone for it again on 10:28 - May 6 by StokieBlue

I think it's possible that because he is likely to be a one-term president (mainly due to age) he can push through these policies without worrying about whether people will vote for him in the next election.

He's doing some really good stuff.

SB


There's a lesson here for the cultists of the Dear Leader. Just because someone isn't on-the-face radical, doesn't mean they WON'T be. You have to actively pitch at more people than the Che-Guavara-poster-and-radical-beat-poetry set.

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Biden has gone for it again on 11:52 - May 6 with 1031 viewsStokieBlue

Biden has gone for it again on 11:50 - May 6 by BlueBadger

There's a lesson here for the cultists of the Dear Leader. Just because someone isn't on-the-face radical, doesn't mean they WON'T be. You have to actively pitch at more people than the Che-Guavara-poster-and-radical-beat-poetry set.


This has been said numerous times, their minds won't be changed.

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Biden has gone for it again on 12:02 - May 6 with 1015 viewsSpruceMoose

Biden has gone for it again on 10:28 - May 6 by StokieBlue

I think it's possible that because he is likely to be a one-term president (mainly due to age) he can push through these policies without worrying about whether people will vote for him in the next election.

He's doing some really good stuff.

SB


He's off to a flyer to be fair. That's not to say that there isn't still work to be done, but Phil threatened Paz with a ban for a reason - anyone denying that there have been major actions since Biden came to power is just trolling.

Not that he will read it, but I'm leaving this handy reference list here for Paz. It sets out what has and hasn't been achieved by Biden since his Presidency began. It doesn't cover covid response though (which has been a massive success in its own right). There's a lot on there that boils down to treating everyone fairly, respectfully and without discrimination - so it's no wonder Paz is upset about how it's going.

https://madison.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/president-joe-bidens-first-1
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Biden has gone for it again on 12:39 - May 6 with 964 viewsjaykay

Biden has gone for it again on 08:59 - May 6 by homer_123

If you look deeper into his policies (such as the Rescue Package) - there's way more in there than many had predicted and also what 'safe Joe' was assumed to be doing.

Poorer families could be receiving $3,000 per child per annum for example - that's a significant chunk of money and is predicted to lift millions of youngsters out of poverty. It's going way further than Obama ever did (think Biden is on record as saying that Obama didn't go far enough).

The plans he has for infrastructure is also hugely substantive, potentially creating millions of job for Americans and building/ improving the basics within the US which have been allowed to deteriorate over the years (bridges and roads). In addition, in an effort to create more equity, if you look closely, it also covers things like improved digital access as well. We are talking 'trillions' of dollars of investment.

Anyone thinking that Biden was simply going to hold the reigns until a younger incumbent comes in has been misguided to say the least.


didn't trump say he had something better for u.s.a. health care than obama care , which he was going to dismantle.
i think the words were , its going to be great and tremendous. when pushed to explain it.
what ever happened to obamagate lol

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Biden has gone for it again on 13:02 - May 6 with 934 viewsFreddies_Ears

Biden has gone for it again on 12:02 - May 6 by SpruceMoose

He's off to a flyer to be fair. That's not to say that there isn't still work to be done, but Phil threatened Paz with a ban for a reason - anyone denying that there have been major actions since Biden came to power is just trolling.

Not that he will read it, but I'm leaving this handy reference list here for Paz. It sets out what has and hasn't been achieved by Biden since his Presidency began. It doesn't cover covid response though (which has been a massive success in its own right). There's a lot on there that boils down to treating everyone fairly, respectfully and without discrimination - so it's no wonder Paz is upset about how it's going.

https://madison.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/president-joe-bidens-first-1
[Post edited 6 May 2021 12:06]


For the first time, I almost wish that we could become the next US State! Biden is doing an amazing job... and they're leaning diplomatically on UK (we didn't decide unilaterally to accept proper diplomatic status for the EU!).
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Biden has gone for it again on 13:21 - May 6 with 924 views26_Paz

Biden has gone for it again on 11:45 - May 6 by SpruceMoose

Idiot.

Careful Paz, you almost got yourself banned for this exact trolling earlier this week...
[Post edited 6 May 2021 12:05]


I got in trouble for using the term ‘drain the swamp’ which was admittedly a juvenile attempt to get a reaction out of you. This doesn’t mean I am banned from making serious comment on Biden policies when they are brought up.

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Biden has gone for it again on 13:33 - May 6 with 910 viewsSpruceMoose

Biden has gone for it again on 13:21 - May 6 by 26_Paz

I got in trouble for using the term ‘drain the swamp’ which was admittedly a juvenile attempt to get a reaction out of you. This doesn’t mean I am banned from making serious comment on Biden policies when they are brought up.


You were busted for trolling.

You've never made a serious comment in your life. You're only here to try and wind people up.

You claim otherwise, but that just makes you either a troll or an idiot. Pick one.

There's no point downvoting me Paz. You can't get away with lying when I can post Phil's actual post from the other day.

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Swamp was nearly drained? This is just trolling, isn't it? What's people's thoughts? Time for a rest?

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