| Older supporters please help 18:02 - Jul 20 with 1441 views | chrismakin |
Seeing a few discussions in regards to stand names etc.
Can I ask, besides Sir Bobby and Sir Alf, did any other ipswich manager succeed more than Burley?
For the slightly younger generation he was a hero imo, footballer come manager. 4 x play offs, play off winners. Top 5 in prem.. Europe!! Etc. Would it be to much to have a George Burley Stand? |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:04 - Jul 20 with 1397 views | J2BLUE |
I think a stand is a bit much for Burley. Especially as we'll need one for Cook after he wins three league titles in a row.
Burley needs something but a stand isn't it. |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:05 - Jul 20 with 1386 views | WD19 |
Might be OK for afternoon games. |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 18:05 - Jul 20 with 1386 views | Illinoisblue |
Unless George is going to pay for it, no. We need actual sponsors giving us cold hard cash. |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:09 - Jul 20 with 1350 views | chrismakin |
| Older supporters please help on 18:05 - Jul 20 by Illinoisblue |
Unless George is going to pay for it, no. We need actual sponsors giving us cold hard cash. |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:13 - Jul 20 with 1334 views | Funge |
Chico mentioned earlier that John Lyall's 91/92 promoted team achieved great things in going up - which is fair comment, particularly when considering:-
- where we finished the season before
- the amount of money (or relative lack thereof) spent on the team
- the competition faced from a Blackburn team, most noticeably, who were beginning to spend Jack Walker's millions.
Obviously Lyall moved upstairs, Mick McGiven proceeded to play some truly attritional football, and the less said about 94/95, the better - but 91/92, we looked ace.
EDIT - fck it, name it the John Lyall stand. [Post edited 20 Jul 2021 18:14]
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| Older supporters please help on 18:16 - Jul 20 with 1306 views | MerseyBlue |
| Older supporters please help on 18:04 - Jul 20 by J2BLUE |
I think a stand is a bit much for Burley. Especially as we'll need one for Cook after he wins three league titles in a row.
Burley needs something but a stand isn't it. |
Burley's Beer and Burger Bar and Bistro [Post edited 20 Jul 2021 18:16]
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| Older supporters please help on 18:19 - Jul 20 with 1275 views | positivity |
| Older supporters please help on 18:13 - Jul 20 by Funge |
Chico mentioned earlier that John Lyall's 91/92 promoted team achieved great things in going up - which is fair comment, particularly when considering:-
- where we finished the season before
- the amount of money (or relative lack thereof) spent on the team
- the competition faced from a Blackburn team, most noticeably, who were beginning to spend Jack Walker's millions.
Obviously Lyall moved upstairs, Mick McGiven proceeded to play some truly attritional football, and the less said about 94/95, the better - but 91/92, we looked ace.
EDIT - fck it, name it the John Lyall stand. [Post edited 20 Jul 2021 18:14]
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if you split the lyall/mcgiven eras, then lyall showed the greater improvement.
burley had the higher highs, but arguably left us in much the same place as he joined, but on the brink of administration.
bobby & alf are leagues ahead of both of them for me |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:25 - Jul 20 with 1240 views | Sibelius8 |
Scott Duncan deserves serious consideration. | | | |
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| Older supporters please help on 18:36 - Jul 20 with 1214 views | Funge |
| Older supporters please help on 18:19 - Jul 20 by positivity |
if you split the lyall/mcgiven eras, then lyall showed the greater improvement.
burley had the higher highs, but arguably left us in much the same place as he joined, but on the brink of administration.
bobby & alf are leagues ahead of both of them for me |
Sir Alf and Sir Bobby clearly better than both, and, indeed, every other English manager ever, apart from perhaps Brian Clough.
Agree with the rest of your post, with the caveat that admin was driven by Sheepshanks.
My younger self used to have BIG arguments with a young SomethingBlue about Sheepy.
TWTD. | | | |
| Older supporters please help on 19:02 - Jul 20 with 1135 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Older supporters please help on 18:05 - Jul 20 by Illinoisblue |
Unless George is going to pay for it, no. We need actual sponsors giving us cold hard cash. |
Sponsorship money would be greater if they could find someway to move TV cameras to Cobbold Stand. |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 20:16 - Jul 20 with 1035 views | bluebudgie |
Bill Mcgarry for me. He is often overlooked but it has to be remembered he took on a Town team that was really in the doldrums despite being crowned English champions three years earlier. We had been relegated from Division One with an ageing team who had lost all confidence under Jackie Milburn. that was near to the relegation places when Mcgarry took over but with some astute signings(bringing Ray Crawford back was a masterstroke) and tough management skills, he got the Town promoted within 4 years. If it wasn't for Bill Mcgarry I think we would have been relegated that season to the third division and would have missed out on the halcyon days of Bobby Robson. |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 20:33 - Jul 20 with 1000 views | Kropotkin123 |
Unless managers are winning top flight trophies, then I don't think they should be added to stadium names.
I feel like Burley was the victim of his own success. We had too small a squad to play in Europe alongside the Premiership. So it is hard for me to split Lyall and Burley simply on the higher highs argument. |  |
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| Older supporters please help on 21:42 - Jul 20 with 913 views | Illinoisblue |
| Older supporters please help on 19:02 - Jul 20 by Pinewoodblue |
Sponsorship money would be greater if they could find someway to move TV cameras to Cobbold Stand. |
Would it? Majority of time camera is at pitch level rather than top of stand where signage or names spelt out in seats would be | |
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| Older supporters please help on 22:10 - Jul 20 with 877 views | Colin_Viljoen |
How about "The boys of 81" stand.
we could name the blocks after the players.
Mick Mills block, row A, seat 1 etc |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 23:16 - Jul 20 with 822 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Older supporters please help on 18:04 - Jul 20 by J2BLUE |
I think a stand is a bit much for Burley. Especially as we'll need one for Cook after he wins three league titles in a row.
Burley needs something but a stand isn't it. |
I said in a different post today that I'm surprised that no-one has suggested a statue for Paul Mariner. At Busch Stadium, home of the St Louis Cardinals baseball team, they have a walk of champions. It would be great if one day the statues of Sir Alf, Sir Bobby and Kevin Beattie could be joined by some others from their great teams.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chiski/8635270288 | | | |
| Older supporters please help on 23:54 - Jul 20 with 787 views | Churchman |
| Older supporters please help on 18:25 - Jul 20 by Sibelius8 |
Scott Duncan deserves serious consideration. |
Well said,
Without Adam Scott Mathieson Duncan, it’s doubtful whether the club would have made it into the league before WW2. He’s a massive figure in ITFC history, for me 3rd behind Ramsey and Robson. George is next, then Lyall and McGarry. |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 00:12 - Jul 21 with 773 views | Rocky |
Let's not forget an English legend, Jackie Milburn, who as manager signed the likes of Danny Hegan and Frank Brogan and who was responsible for setting up our successful youth system which formed the basis of our most successful years under SBR. |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 07:18 - Jul 21 with 673 views | Leaky |
| Older supporters please help on 18:09 - Jul 20 by chrismakin |
Good point |
Ed Sheeran Stand |  | | |
| Older supporters please help on 07:46 - Jul 21 with 637 views | Bluefields |
| Older supporters please help on 18:36 - Jul 20 by Funge |
Sir Alf and Sir Bobby clearly better than both, and, indeed, every other English manager ever, apart from perhaps Brian Clough.
Agree with the rest of your post, with the caveat that admin was driven by Sheepshanks.
My younger self used to have BIG arguments with a young SomethingBlue about Sheepy.
TWTD. |
Bob Paisley is clear of any English manager by a long way. | | | |
| Older supporters please help on 08:00 - Jul 21 with 621 views | wkj |
Burley did an exceptional job with the town- nobody can ever say his promotion and Premier League runs were lucky, as we played some great football along the way.
However, the other side is that Burley and Sheepshanks both made a lot of mistakes. We were thinking way into the future with the stands being added, as well as our stature in the game. Not a lot felt like we were solidifying at the time, rather trying to run forward. Now Bruley didn't build the stands, however, his recruitment and adaptability made it so we were unable to remain competitive as teams had sussed us out from the season before.
So whilst they both created some great history, they never really cemented a legacy - and for my money, THAT is what makes a manager/player/owner a 'gimme' for a statue, stand or ground named after them. [Post edited 21 Jul 2021 8:02]
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