| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts 21:52 - Jul 27 with 3095 views | unstableblue |
Great Town fans turn out
Some great first half performances from Piggot, Dobra, Harper especially
It was like no pressure season game I’d seen, loads of energy and running, and bite with Judge doing a red card worthy challenge on Dobra, and then Chambo squaring up to him.
But Col U wanted it more, Sears and especially Judge showed real fight and endeavour. And Holy was comical buffoon who gifted goals - shocking.
They edged the game. Deserved the win.
The difference being we had the better players which is a great step forward and that gave us the draw, with Burns wunder free kick.
It was still a friendly with us using a lot of youth and switching loads of players,,, for me too many in a penultimate pre season friendly.
BUT the one concern I have is Col U showed the better shape and system for 70% of the game and we looked ragged.
I would hope with the season close we would know the plan. But to be fair to Cook and the team the amount of squad in flux is crazy and we swapped the team tonight.
I don’t want to leave the Morecombe game still puzzling on our shape and hunger for the second ball.
Great to be with the fans again, great to see Burns, Piggot, Harper. And you know “it’s only a pre season friendly” [Post edited 27 Jul 2021 21:53]
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:56 - Jul 27 with 2960 views | bazza |
Hard to gauge as well as I’m sure for chambers judge and the rest it would have been like a cup
Final To them to try and show cook up. |  | | |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:57 - Jul 27 with 2929 views | Wallingford_Boy |
It was also a second xi back five |  |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:57 - Jul 27 with 2938 views | chrismakin |
The players are well aware of the plan
They go through it every day
This is what happens when you go into a friendly expecting us to want it just like col U. |  |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:04 - Jul 27 with 2758 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:57 - Jul 27 by Wallingford_Boy |
It was also a second xi back five |
Indeed. The defence was the issue and we will have Hladky, Vincent-Young, Edmondson and possibly Nsiala in there for the league. Not sure if we have someone ahead of Penney for left back at the moment do we? There is an issue that we need better strength in depth from some of those back 5 but Burns can cover at RB too. Probably need a better number 2 than Holy but he won't play that poorly all the time if called on. |  |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:13 - Jul 27 with 2603 views | Herbivore |
It's a preseason friendly, really not worth reading much into it, mate. |  |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:18 - Jul 27 with 2514 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Pondering shape and system in a pre season friendly is very much deeping it |  |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:35 - Jul 27 with 2297 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:56 - Jul 27 by bazza |
Hard to gauge as well as I’m sure for chambers judge and the rest it would have been like a cup
Final To them to try and show cook up. |
It definitely felt like the col u players were really up for it and not treating it like a pre season.
So hard to gauge as you say.
BUT, Col U looked better organised in terms of a system, as well as being losing the second ball.
Hoping it’s because we played Ndaba and Donacien and a youngster instead of Evans. And a shed load of changes. And huge flux in the squad.
Rather than a continuation of the bat sh!t crazy systems and formations at the end of last term. | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:37 - Jul 27 with 2276 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:57 - Jul 27 by chrismakin |
The players are well aware of the plan
They go through it every day
This is what happens when you go into a friendly expecting us to want it just like col U. |
3 ways to win a game:
- want it more than the opposition
- have better players than the opposition
- have a better system than the opposition
Think we were behind on 2 of those tonight | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:42 - Jul 27 with 2229 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:04 - Jul 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed. The defence was the issue and we will have Hladky, Vincent-Young, Edmondson and possibly Nsiala in there for the league. Not sure if we have someone ahead of Penney for left back at the moment do we? There is an issue that we need better strength in depth from some of those back 5 but Burns can cover at RB too. Probably need a better number 2 than Holy but he won't play that poorly all the time if called on. |
Not sure Ndaba and Wolfenden were the issue, I thought they played well, it was mess of the middle two in front and a clown performance from Holy | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:53 - Jul 27 with 2132 views | clive_baker |
Not sure we learnt much we didn’t already know tbh.
A few of those players that have moved on are clearly a little bitter still, and I can sympathise with that in some cases. Judge was one of our best players in the 2nd half of last season, he’s a good signing for them and we shouldn’t be surprised to see him play well. Holy’s a terrible goalkeeper, that’s been evident since he arrived and I would imagine he’s well behind Hladky in the pecking order. Dobra has potential and a lot of ability, which he demonstrated.
A handful of those who played tonight will start <3 league games this season I would wager. It’s a friendly, it’s a glorified training session that counts for absolutely nothing at the end of the day. It’s good to get semi competitive action and minutes into them, but the result is barely newsworthy. |  |
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| Good post (n/t) on 23:31 - Jul 27 with 1978 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:53 - Jul 27 by clive_baker |
Not sure we learnt much we didn’t already know tbh.
A few of those players that have moved on are clearly a little bitter still, and I can sympathise with that in some cases. Judge was one of our best players in the 2nd half of last season, he’s a good signing for them and we shouldn’t be surprised to see him play well. Holy’s a terrible goalkeeper, that’s been evident since he arrived and I would imagine he’s well behind Hladky in the pecking order. Dobra has potential and a lot of ability, which he demonstrated.
A handful of those who played tonight will start <3 league games this season I would wager. It’s a friendly, it’s a glorified training session that counts for absolutely nothing at the end of the day. It’s good to get semi competitive action and minutes into them, but the result is barely newsworthy. |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 23:35 - Jul 27 with 1951 views | chrismakin |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:37 - Jul 27 by unstableblue |
3 ways to win a game:
- want it more than the opposition
- have better players than the opposition
- have a better system than the opposition
Think we were behind on 2 of those tonight |
Well yeah. But why would we want it more. It's a friendly.
System. Jeffers even said we got out of it what we wanted in terms of shape.. you dont know what they were looking for.
I honestly dont know what you were expecting. You're almost on par with their commentator but the opposite. [Post edited 27 Jul 2021 23:37]
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 23:40 - Jul 27 with 1902 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:04 - Jul 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed. The defence was the issue and we will have Hladky, Vincent-Young, Edmondson and possibly Nsiala in there for the league. Not sure if we have someone ahead of Penney for left back at the moment do we? There is an issue that we need better strength in depth from some of those back 5 but Burns can cover at RB too. Probably need a better number 2 than Holy but he won't play that poorly all the time if called on. |
No way Penney is more than a squad player.
Coulson will start ahead of him. | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 01:02 - Jul 28 with 1775 views | Sharkey |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 21:56 - Jul 27 by bazza |
Hard to gauge as well as I’m sure for chambers judge and the rest it would have been like a cup
Final To them to try and show cook up. |
Seriously? You think for Judge that would be like for Roger Osborne in 78? |  | | |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 01:28 - Jul 28 with 1711 views | have_a_word_with_him |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 22:37 - Jul 27 by unstableblue |
3 ways to win a game:
- want it more than the opposition
- have better players than the opposition
- have a better system than the opposition
Think we were behind on 2 of those tonight |
Are you a premier league manager masquerading on this site as a town fan? Insightful, 3 ways to win a game...who knew... |  | | |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 08:23 - Jul 28 with 1293 views | xrayspecs |
It was a game of two halves - our midfield and attack versus our defence.
Going forward, we looked bright, had pace and movement, created plenty of chances and scored three very good goals. We displayed quality lacking in so many matches last season. Honourable mention to Dobs who has surely secured a first team squad place this season, he could be a very important player for us this season, great to see.
In comparison, the starting back five largely looked poor. Holy had a pantomime game, some of the passing across the back was reminiscent of last season when the sensible option was to clear the lines. I though Nbada and Penney struggled in the first half and Col U got behind them at least three times.
While there was more end product than versus Palace on Saturday, we did not maintain our shape as well nor have the same intensity. Against a Col U team, some of whom had a point to prove. I thought Chambers and Judge had good games for them and they look like a decent team in League 2.
Taking the positives, most of the defence that started last night are unlikely to be regular starters in the League this season, Woolfenden possibly. A new left back, Edmundson, possibly another new CB and KVY will start in front of Vklady. That should make us much more solid.
Milwall should give us a better sense of where we are as this will more likely be indicative of our current first XI going into the season.
Fwiw
Vladky
KVY
Edmundson
Woolfenden (unless new CB)
Penney (unless Coulson)
Evans
Harper
Chaplin
Piggott
Burns
Bonne
Subs
Holy
Donacien
Nsiala
Humpreys
Dobra
Fraser
Norwood [Post edited 28 Jul 2021 8:26]
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 08:27 - Jul 28 with 1259 views | BlueNomad |
Well according to my Col U supporting mate we are in for a “lousy” season and no better than them. Hasn’t a clue what is going on at Ipswich but has reached that verdict. We’re stuffed then! |  | | |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 08:56 - Jul 28 with 1155 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 08:27 - Jul 28 by BlueNomad |
Well according to my Col U supporting mate we are in for a “lousy” season and no better than them. Hasn’t a clue what is going on at Ipswich but has reached that verdict. We’re stuffed then! |
I went with a neutral and his thoughts on leaving the ground were that Col U deserved to win and were playing a far more effective system and showed the better interplay.
I think he missed the amount of player change, youth and B players used. And even with these factors when we went up a gear we caused real problems.
But we need Evans back and a clearer system | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 09:03 - Jul 28 with 1120 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 08:23 - Jul 28 by xrayspecs |
It was a game of two halves - our midfield and attack versus our defence.
Going forward, we looked bright, had pace and movement, created plenty of chances and scored three very good goals. We displayed quality lacking in so many matches last season. Honourable mention to Dobs who has surely secured a first team squad place this season, he could be a very important player for us this season, great to see.
In comparison, the starting back five largely looked poor. Holy had a pantomime game, some of the passing across the back was reminiscent of last season when the sensible option was to clear the lines. I though Nbada and Penney struggled in the first half and Col U got behind them at least three times.
While there was more end product than versus Palace on Saturday, we did not maintain our shape as well nor have the same intensity. Against a Col U team, some of whom had a point to prove. I thought Chambers and Judge had good games for them and they look like a decent team in League 2.
Taking the positives, most of the defence that started last night are unlikely to be regular starters in the League this season, Woolfenden possibly. A new left back, Edmundson, possibly another new CB and KVY will start in front of Vklady. That should make us much more solid.
Milwall should give us a better sense of where we are as this will more likely be indicative of our current first XI going into the season.
Fwiw
Vladky
KVY
Edmundson
Woolfenden (unless new CB)
Penney (unless Coulson)
Evans
Harper
Chaplin
Piggott
Burns
Bonne
Subs
Holy
Donacien
Nsiala
Humpreys
Dobra
Fraser
Norwood [Post edited 28 Jul 2021 8:26]
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You’re back on that we lost our shape and intensity - it wasn’t really a pre-season game given how fired up Col U were. And in a way our players didn’t have as much skin in the game.
Don’t want us as ragged and losing the second ball in a league game this season.
You’re right a game of two halves, we were more composed and controlled first half Piggot and Harper superb. They also couldn’t get near Dobra, and he’ll be a super sub this year, just needs to work on the final product.
Agree with line up, I’d keep Wolfenden in, but a young pairing.
We need Evans playing, and a quality back-up. Can we not rehabilitate Downes? | |
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| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 09:19 - Jul 28 with 1010 views | unstableblue |
| Hmmmmmm… match thoughts on 01:28 - Jul 28 by have_a_word_with_him |
Are you a premier league manager masquerading on this site as a town fan? Insightful, 3 ways to win a game...who knew... |
There’s also point 4 - score more goals than the opposition
That ones a bit complex for people so thought I’d exclude | |
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