| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:27 - Nov 5 with 2534 views | StokieBlue |
That is good information for the masses with regards to entry.
However, in general, nobody takes any notice whatsoever of many of those rules with regards to inside the ground because it's too difficult for them to do things to help other people.
"Face coverings are mandatory in indoor areas such as the concourses and toilets etc."
I rest my case.
SB
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:30 - Nov 5 with 2502 views | unstableblue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:27 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
That is good information for the masses with regards to entry.
However, in general, nobody takes any notice whatsoever of many of those rules with regards to inside the ground because it's too difficult for them to do things to help other people.
"Face coverings are mandatory in indoor areas such as the concourses and toilets etc."
I rest my case.
SB
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I’m talking about lateral flow test proof or double vaccination
We’ve been caught out twice with guests kids not having done it and not being let in… then having to go to the testing station and the wait |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:33 - Nov 5 with 2487 views | SitfcB |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:27 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
That is good information for the masses with regards to entry.
However, in general, nobody takes any notice whatsoever of many of those rules with regards to inside the ground because it's too difficult for them to do things to help other people.
"Face coverings are mandatory in indoor areas such as the concourses and toilets etc."
I rest my case.
SB
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Seeing as you can’t get in without showing proof of test result I doubt many people ignore it. |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:34 - Nov 5 with 2478 views | Fixed_It |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:27 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
That is good information for the masses with regards to entry.
However, in general, nobody takes any notice whatsoever of many of those rules with regards to inside the ground because it's too difficult for them to do things to help other people.
"Face coverings are mandatory in indoor areas such as the concourses and toilets etc."
I rest my case.
SB
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Just being nosey really, Stokie - but have you had covid? You do seem to be really 'interested' in it judging by 95% of your posts on here. |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:35 - Nov 5 with 2461 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:27 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
That is good information for the masses with regards to entry.
However, in general, nobody takes any notice whatsoever of many of those rules with regards to inside the ground because it's too difficult for them to do things to help other people.
"Face coverings are mandatory in indoor areas such as the concourses and toilets etc."
I rest my case.
SB
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That isn't relevant to people not being admitted unless they have proof of a negative lateral flow test. |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:36 - Nov 5 with 2464 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:33 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
Seeing as you can’t get in without showing proof of test result I doubt many people ignore it. |
Not entirely true is it, there were a number of people posting on here last week that they had never been asked for their proof.
However, I am very happy to hear that is the case.
You've missed the point of my post, although I'm not surprised. Will you be wearing your mask in the mandatory areas?
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:37 - Nov 5 with 2449 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:35 - Nov 5 by GlasgowBlue |
That isn't relevant to people not being admitted unless they have proof of a negative lateral flow test. |
And I clearly cited another rule that people totally ignore.
I do believe we can add things to threads?
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:38 - Nov 5 with 2433 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:34 - Nov 5 by Fixed_It |
Just being nosey really, Stokie - but have you had covid? You do seem to be really 'interested' in it judging by 95% of your posts on here. |
As far as I know I've not had covid.
Not really sure how it's relevant though, 200 people are dying a day, more people should be interested in it.
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:38 - Nov 5 with 2420 views | chrismakin |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:36 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
Not entirely true is it, there were a number of people posting on here last week that they had never been asked for their proof.
However, I am very happy to hear that is the case.
You've missed the point of my post, although I'm not surprised. Will you be wearing your mask in the mandatory areas?
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Fair play SB.
I've decided to swap the bus for the train as 99% of bus users ignored mask wearing. Trains isn't 100% mind you. But with the time of the one I get for work it's fairly quiet and at least 50% do wear them. |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:42 - Nov 5 with 2399 views | SitfcB |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:36 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
Not entirely true is it, there were a number of people posting on here last week that they had never been asked for their proof.
However, I am very happy to hear that is the case.
You've missed the point of my post, although I'm not surprised. Will you be wearing your mask in the mandatory areas?
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I have seen people being turned away due to not having proof of test result.
Inevitable that a few may ‘slip the net’ given the crowd size but the club have employed third party security to increase the speed of getting people in etc.
I still think even the double jabbed should have to show a negative test result. The outbreak around me in SBRL was probably down to a double jabbed attendee.
Not tomorrow I won’t....because I’m not going! But I have been wearing my mask upon entering the ground and the walk thorough the concourse 
IMO especially at HT, and not just down to Covid but the club should look at opening some doors at HT to allow more space in the SBRL concourse as it’s crowded at the best of times, easy enough to fence off an area on the road. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:43 - Nov 5 with 2376 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:42 - Nov 5 by SitfcB |
I have seen people being turned away due to not having proof of test result.
Inevitable that a few may ‘slip the net’ given the crowd size but the club have employed third party security to increase the speed of getting people in etc.
I still think even the double jabbed should have to show a negative test result. The outbreak around me in SBRL was probably down to a double jabbed attendee.
Not tomorrow I won’t....because I’m not going! But I have been wearing my mask upon entering the ground and the walk thorough the concourse
IMO especially at HT, and not just down to Covid but the club should look at opening some doors at HT to allow more space in the SBRL concourse as it’s crowded at the best of times, easy enough to fence off an area on the road. |
I'm very glad to hear it given your previous attitude.
Not sure if the road idea could work (although I commend the effort) as surely there could be a crush of people without a ticket trying to get in?
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:44 - Nov 5 with 2362 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:37 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
And I clearly cited another rule that people totally ignore.
I do believe we can add things to threads?
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You're shoehorning in your legitimate concerns about the lack of mask wearing on the concourse in a thread about the requirement to provide a negative lateral flow test.
The two are completely sperate.
The latter is a requirement to gain entry and will be enforced at the gate. It's a rule that cannot be ignored by the supporter.
The former is a rule that can be ignored by the supporter. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:47 - Nov 5 with 2354 views | SitfcB |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:43 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
I'm very glad to hear it given your previous attitude.
Not sure if the road idea could work (although I commend the effort) as surely there could be a crush of people without a ticket trying to get in?
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I don’t really fancy getting it again if I’m honest and the concourse at football is probably the most crowded place around.
If it was ‘policed’ well enough wouldn’t be a problem, have seen it at a few grounds Up and down the country, just a few barriers connected together and a steward along the perimeter every so often. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:47 - Nov 5 with 2353 views | Fixed_It |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:38 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
As far as I know I've not had covid.
Not really sure how it's relevant though, 200 people are dying a day, more people should be interested in it.
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I agree that people should be interested, and take necessary precautions. But I also think we need to get back to 'normal' life as much as possible. And as I am sure you are aware, if you are double jabbed you are far less likely to get seriously ill. [Post edited 5 Nov 2021 21:51]
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:48 - Nov 5 with 2344 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:38 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
As far as I know I've not had covid.
Not really sure how it's relevant though, 200 people are dying a day, more people should be interested in it.
SB |
You can take this whichever way you decide, and I say this with the best will in the world, but as somebody who has nothing but the utmost respect for you as a poster I think that COVID is consuming you.
I let the antisemitism issue do the same to me. It wasn't healthy and I took myself away from the board because of it. I'm not suggesting you do the same but I'm familiar with the signals you are giving out. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:49 - Nov 5 with 2334 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:44 - Nov 5 by GlasgowBlue |
You're shoehorning in your legitimate concerns about the lack of mask wearing on the concourse in a thread about the requirement to provide a negative lateral flow test.
The two are completely sperate.
The latter is a requirement to gain entry and will be enforced at the gate. It's a rule that cannot be ignored by the supporter.
The former is a rule that can be ignored by the supporter. |
Hang on.
You shoehorned concerns which you felt are legitimate with regards to Corbyn into two entirely different threads within about 30 minutes last week. Seems rather hypocritical to call me out if you feel this is essentially the same thing. For the record I don't think it's the same thing as he posted a link to the rules and I highlighted one that people don't seem to follow.
Surely no mandatory rules should be ignored by supporters? Saying they can be ignored isn't really helping anything beyond showing the semantics of the English language.
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:49 - Nov 5 with 2325 views | gtsb1966 |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:38 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
As far as I know I've not had covid.
Not really sure how it's relevant though, 200 people are dying a day, more people should be interested in it.
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200 people a day ARE NOT dying OF covid. Let's get that straight. That's my last word on this thread because you will go on and on. |  | | |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:56 - Nov 5 with 2270 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:48 - Nov 5 by GlasgowBlue |
You can take this whichever way you decide, and I say this with the best will in the world, but as somebody who has nothing but the utmost respect for you as a poster I think that COVID is consuming you.
I let the antisemitism issue do the same to me. It wasn't healthy and I took myself away from the board because of it. I'm not suggesting you do the same but I'm familiar with the signals you are giving out. |
I thank you for your concern but I am not sure they are comparable.
What annoys me is misinformation and people deliberately ignoring things which are for the benefit of other people. I'd probably go further and it's the dismissal of science which is hard for the individual that I get annoyed with. It's the same with climate change. Nobody would even be posting here if it wasn't for science but it's the picking and choosing that is annoying.
I present the information in a factual way, if people ignore me then that's a shame but if some don't then that's for the benefit of everyone.
If we are going to be honest with each other then I think you've gone the other way and tried to pretend that covid is behind us. I understand why and you've been clear with your reasons but as it stands we are at a bit of a juxtaposition of views. I hope you're right but even if you are that doesn't mean people can't take extra mitigating actions now.
The world is full of difficult debates which are hard to have. Climate change, mask wearing in winter, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.
I took a break and the misinformation I saw on here was pretty upsetting, especially given many people didn't seem to care. It seems that when I come back people are upset to have their lack of concerns pointed out to them.
SB [Post edited 5 Nov 2021 22:04]
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:58 - Nov 5 with 2241 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:49 - Nov 5 by gtsb1966 |
200 people a day ARE NOT dying OF covid. Let's get that straight. That's my last word on this thread because you will go on and on. |
I'm sure your in-depth analysis of the excess deaths numbers has lead you to that conclusion.
You're barely worth replying to, nothing you say is accurate.
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:11 - Nov 5 with 2169 views | Fixed_It |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:56 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
I thank you for your concern but I am not sure they are comparable.
What annoys me is misinformation and people deliberately ignoring things which are for the benefit of other people. I'd probably go further and it's the dismissal of science which is hard for the individual that I get annoyed with. It's the same with climate change. Nobody would even be posting here if it wasn't for science but it's the picking and choosing that is annoying.
I present the information in a factual way, if people ignore me then that's a shame but if some don't then that's for the benefit of everyone.
If we are going to be honest with each other then I think you've gone the other way and tried to pretend that covid is behind us. I understand why and you've been clear with your reasons but as it stands we are at a bit of a juxtaposition of views. I hope you're right but even if you are that doesn't mean people can't take extra mitigating actions now.
The world is full of difficult debates which are hard to have. Climate change, mask wearing in winter, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.
I took a break and the misinformation I saw on here was pretty upsetting, especially given many people didn't seem to care. It seems that when I come back people are upset to have their lack of concerns pointed out to them.
SB [Post edited 5 Nov 2021 22:04]
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It comes across as being obsessive, which isn't healthy. If you, or your family, have had negative personal experience of covid, then I fully understand and sympathise. If not, then please don't allow it to consume you. I am one of the many, many lucky ones to have had covid with no serious or lasting effects. We do need to get back to 'normal' as much as possible, whilst still being vigilant and taking necessary precautions. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:13 - Nov 5 with 2145 views | unstableblue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:36 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
Not entirely true is it, there were a number of people posting on here last week that they had never been asked for their proof.
However, I am very happy to hear that is the case.
You've missed the point of my post, although I'm not surprised. Will you be wearing your mask in the mandatory areas?
SB |
Think I’ve been to every home game including pizza cup and in groups and no one has never not been asked
I would say that stewards do review your vaccine card, photo or email more rigorously, but they are generally checking | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:14 - Nov 5 with 2147 views | wkj |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:11 - Nov 5 by Fixed_It |
It comes across as being obsessive, which isn't healthy. If you, or your family, have had negative personal experience of covid, then I fully understand and sympathise. If not, then please don't allow it to consume you. I am one of the many, many lucky ones to have had covid with no serious or lasting effects. We do need to get back to 'normal' as much as possible, whilst still being vigilant and taking necessary precautions. |
I know for a fact that someone Stokie is close with has been gripped by covid. |  |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:15 - Nov 5 with 2133 views | Fixed_It |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:13 - Nov 5 by unstableblue |
Think I’ve been to every home game including pizza cup and in groups and no one has never not been asked
I would say that stewards do review your vaccine card, photo or email more rigorously, but they are generally checking |
And of course, this does not happen at other grounds at this level. | |
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:18 - Nov 5 with 2115 views | StokieBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:11 - Nov 5 by Fixed_It |
It comes across as being obsessive, which isn't healthy. If you, or your family, have had negative personal experience of covid, then I fully understand and sympathise. If not, then please don't allow it to consume you. I am one of the many, many lucky ones to have had covid with no serious or lasting effects. We do need to get back to 'normal' as much as possible, whilst still being vigilant and taking necessary precautions. |
What is normal though?
Normal surely evolves with the data and the times. To naively look at what used to be and call it normal would mean that nothing ever changes. People would still be throwing their smelly business out the window and looking at Bazalgette with suspicion. We would still be looking to open coal fired power stations or pumping CFC's into the atmosphere and destroying the Ozone layer.
I don't believe it's wrong to challenge peoples views.
Unfortunately TWTD is the place where I see the most stuff which needs challenging and that includes covid which I barely discuss elsewhere.
Perhaps this wasn't the best thread to do it but when presented with a link to a list of mandatory measures which people don't actually follow I don't think it's particularly wrong to point that out.
SB [Post edited 5 Nov 2021 22:20]
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| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 22:27 - Nov 5 with 2063 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Don’t forget it’s still lateral flow test proof for the Oldham game on 21:56 - Nov 5 by StokieBlue |
I thank you for your concern but I am not sure they are comparable.
What annoys me is misinformation and people deliberately ignoring things which are for the benefit of other people. I'd probably go further and it's the dismissal of science which is hard for the individual that I get annoyed with. It's the same with climate change. Nobody would even be posting here if it wasn't for science but it's the picking and choosing that is annoying.
I present the information in a factual way, if people ignore me then that's a shame but if some don't then that's for the benefit of everyone.
If we are going to be honest with each other then I think you've gone the other way and tried to pretend that covid is behind us. I understand why and you've been clear with your reasons but as it stands we are at a bit of a juxtaposition of views. I hope you're right but even if you are that doesn't mean people can't take extra mitigating actions now.
The world is full of difficult debates which are hard to have. Climate change, mask wearing in winter, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them.
I took a break and the misinformation I saw on here was pretty upsetting, especially given many people didn't seem to care. It seems that when I come back people are upset to have their lack of concerns pointed out to them.
SB [Post edited 5 Nov 2021 22:04]
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I’m not sure how how draw the conclusion at the beginning of your 4th paragraph. I live every day with the pandemic an mitigate the risks.
It’s far from over. But I refuse to let it consume me or dominate my every waking thought. I dint want to be reminded of it 24/7. People shouldn’t be made to feel morally inferior for wanting life to return to normal at some stage in the future, or taking some comfort from rare positive news.
People also have other things going in in their lives. Some people have a lot of other crap to deal with. Others have a lot of positives in their lives. COVID isn’t the be all and end all.
I’m 100% behind you in wanting to combat fake information and dangerous conspiracies. And Phil has been very good at removing posters who perpetuate these . But if I’m being brutally honest with you Stokie, I feel that you have appointed yourself as the arbitrator of what is morally correct with regards to other board members behaviour and aspirations.
Edit. This is an edited reply because I replied just as I was posting from bed with the wife nagging me to get off my iPad, and it was too brief.
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