| Seen a few times now various posters saying that 17:01 - Nov 29 with 1106 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
PRP would have had us in the play offs with this squad.
With PRP we'd have lost that yesterday 2-3, no question. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:04 - Nov 29 with 1068 views | positivity |
nonsense, 1-2 or 0-1 |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:20 - Nov 29 with 1011 views | jayessess |
I don't wonder about Lambert (who checked out long before he was actually sacked), I do wonder where we'd be if we'd appointed Matt Gill as interim boss until May. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:34 - Nov 29 with 969 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:20 - Nov 29 by jayessess |
I don't wonder about Lambert (who checked out long before he was actually sacked), I do wonder where we'd be if we'd appointed Matt Gill as interim boss until May. |
difficult to tell on the low sample size.
if the slide from game one to game three had continued, we might have been relegated! i guess we'll only be able to tell if gill is manager material if he gets a job.
i wouldn't have minded kieron getting the gig, but it seemed like the window for getting cook was fairly narrow, so they acted then. | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:36 - Nov 29 with 951 views | N2_Blue |
couldn't disagree more.
Yesterday was the type of game Lambert did ok at, it may have only been 1-0 but comfortable. No way would it have been 2-3...do you not remember style of games under Lambert??
Lambert cam unstuck with any team that was competent at this level and when confidence suffered a bit he absolutely had no way of turning it around. And then he just became a bitter tool.
Under Lambert we were ok at beating the dross (without meaning to be disrespectful of Crewe, but thy are bottom for a reason).
I don't think Lambert would be doing any worse than PC however but neither proved or have proved themselves good enough. [Post edited 29 Nov 2021 17:47]
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:38 - Nov 29 with 941 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nah, we had some organisation under PRP, but zero quality up the top end of the pitch. I think there's some merit to the argument that he could do better. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:49 - Nov 29 with 892 views | BlueBadger |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:36 - Nov 29 by N2_Blue |
couldn't disagree more.
Yesterday was the type of game Lambert did ok at, it may have only been 1-0 but comfortable. No way would it have been 2-3...do you not remember style of games under Lambert??
Lambert cam unstuck with any team that was competent at this level and when confidence suffered a bit he absolutely had no way of turning it around. And then he just became a bitter tool.
Under Lambert we were ok at beating the dross (without meaning to be disrespectful of Crewe, but thy are bottom for a reason).
I don't think Lambert would be doing any worse than PC however but neither proved or have proved themselves good enough. [Post edited 29 Nov 2021 17:47]
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You know what's most depressing about this thread?
It's essentially a poor man's 'Keane or Jewell'. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:54 - Nov 29 with 858 views | HighgateBlue |
No question? Are you serious? We conceded far fewer goals under Lambert. There is no possible basis on which to suggest that we would have conceded three times as many goals as we did. How many 2-3s? were there under Lambert? And how often did we lose pre-Christmas against a bottom-half side, let alone a bottom side?
All this "we've got our club back" nonsense appears to have wiped a few memories. |  | | |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:56 - Nov 29 with 848 views | clive_baker |
Cook failing doesn't make Lambert less of a failure.
I do think he had less resources though. It was a year ago yesterday that we hosted Charlton, when a win would've put us top. I don't imagine he was starting McGavin and Gibbs in the middle for a laugh.
Fast forward 12 months and we've got a bench of Harper, Evans, Pigott, KVY, Edwards etc and we're worse off points wise. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:02 - Nov 29 with 822 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:54 - Nov 29 by HighgateBlue |
No question? Are you serious? We conceded far fewer goals under Lambert. There is no possible basis on which to suggest that we would have conceded three times as many goals as we did. How many 2-3s? were there under Lambert? And how often did we lose pre-Christmas against a bottom-half side, let alone a bottom side?
All this "we've got our club back" nonsense appears to have wiped a few memories. |
we lost 2-3 against swindon at home (and pompey), but i agree 0-1 is much more likely! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:05 - Nov 29 with 817 views | jayessess |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 17:34 - Nov 29 by positivity |
difficult to tell on the low sample size.
if the slide from game one to game three had continued, we might have been relegated! i guess we'll only be able to tell if gill is manager material if he gets a job.
i wouldn't have minded kieron getting the gig, but it seemed like the window for getting cook was fairly narrow, so they acted then. |
Difficult to tell for sure, but it seemed to me that Gill had a strong sense that he needed to adapt to his players' limitations, rather than attempt to forge them into something different. With hindsight that was very much what was required. | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:13 - Nov 29 with 800 views | pointofblue |
Considering how PRP did with a weaker squad you have to wonder how he would have done with this one - couldn't be any worse than PRP2, surely? | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:17 - Nov 29 with 793 views | Trequartista |
PRP would have had us in the playoffs with last season's squad had he not been sacked and maintained the same points-per-game. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:19 - Nov 29 with 783 views | chrismakin |
I beg to differ.
If anything crewe wouldn't have had 6/7 3 on 2 situations with our backline. |  |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:20 - Nov 29 with 783 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:13 - Nov 29 by pointofblue |
Considering how PRP did with a weaker squad you have to wonder how he would have done with this one - couldn't be any worse than PRP2, surely? |
lambert took a championship squad and moulded it into a league one squad.
dread to think what he'd do with a league one squad with a smattering of championship quality players! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:25 - Nov 29 with 768 views | chrismakin |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:20 - Nov 29 by positivity |
lambert took a championship squad and moulded it into a league one squad.
dread to think what he'd do with a league one squad with a smattering of championship quality players! |
Lol championship squad. It was sht.
Lambert was sht too overall 4 wins in 31.
But that side was anything but championship. | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:29 - Nov 29 with 756 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:25 - Nov 29 by chrismakin |
Lol championship squad. It was sht.
Lambert was sht too overall 4 wins in 31.
But that side was anything but championship. |
it was in the championship! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:32 - Nov 29 with 736 views | chrismakin |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:29 - Nov 29 by positivity |
it was in the championship! |
Filled with league 1 and 2 players yes thanks to Hurst | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:38 - Nov 29 with 718 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:32 - Nov 29 by chrismakin |
Filled with league 1 and 2 players yes thanks to Hurst |
he only had time to make 7 signings, that's not the bulk of lambert's "championship" squad! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:42 - Nov 29 with 703 views | chrismakin |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:38 - Nov 29 by positivity |
he only had time to make 7 signings, that's not the bulk of lambert's "championship" squad! |
He signed 9 players
The squad ( no where near champ standard)
efenders: Donacien, Spence, Emmnanuel, Cotter, Chambers, Nsiala, Woolfenden, Knudsen, Kenlock
Midfielders: Skuse, Nolan, Chalobah, Edun, Huws, Dozzell, Nydam, Downes, Bishop, Adeyemi
Wingers: Edwards, Ward, Roberts, Rowe
Strikers: Harrison, Jackson, Sears, Morris, Folami | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:48 - Nov 29 with 675 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:42 - Nov 29 by chrismakin |
He signed 9 players
The squad ( no where near champ standard)
efenders: Donacien, Spence, Emmnanuel, Cotter, Chambers, Nsiala, Woolfenden, Knudsen, Kenlock
Midfielders: Skuse, Nolan, Chalobah, Edun, Huws, Dozzell, Nydam, Downes, Bishop, Adeyemi
Wingers: Edwards, Ward, Roberts, Rowe
Strikers: Harrison, Jackson, Sears, Morris, Folami |
so 19 mick, 9 hurst
if you're including loanees now, lambert signed 7 players in the championship (and 27 in total!)
how many are still at the club?! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:52 - Nov 29 with 640 views | chrismakin |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:48 - Nov 29 by positivity |
so 19 mick, 9 hurst
if you're including loanees now, lambert signed 7 players in the championship (and 27 in total!)
how many are still at the club?! |
What's now got to do with it? Or even what transfers lambeth made overall. He had 1 window in the championship.
You said he took a championship team and moulded it into a league 1 team.
He didn't.
He took on a league 1 standard squad. Tried to rescue the damage made by Hurst but failed and he took the side down to a level it deserved.
Lambert then failed to do anything more with the squad and finally got the sack after failing for 2 seasons further.
But it can't be ignored that he had a shocking squad to choose from. Just look at some of those players. | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:53 - Nov 29 with 640 views | Churchman |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:20 - Nov 29 by positivity |
lambert took a championship squad and moulded it into a league one squad.
dread to think what he'd do with a league one squad with a smattering of championship quality players! |
He’d have got us relegated. I keep hearing he’d have got us in the play offs, but forgetting he was a mile off it the previous season, four days into Cook’s tenure before he’d done anything they were ripped a new one by Gillingham. Given the runaround. Does anyone really think it’d have been different if PL had been there with the same team?
This time last year we lost to Swindon 3-2. Relegated Swindon who beat us with ease. 3-2 was a travesty of a score line. Six games of eight at home lost in the meat of the season. Beaten without laying a glove on any of those teams. Who can forget the glory of that home draw with relegated Northampton? Lambert inherited chaos from dumbo Hurst and kept chucking loanees and all sorts at it finishing with 40+ players who would no more have got us promoted than flown to the moon.
How he wasn’t sacked a year or more before is quite beyond me. [Post edited 29 Nov 2021 18:54]
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:59 - Nov 29 with 618 views | positivity |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:52 - Nov 29 by chrismakin |
What's now got to do with it? Or even what transfers lambeth made overall. He had 1 window in the championship.
You said he took a championship team and moulded it into a league 1 team.
He didn't.
He took on a league 1 standard squad. Tried to rescue the damage made by Hurst but failed and he took the side down to a level it deserved.
Lambert then failed to do anything more with the squad and finally got the sack after failing for 2 seasons further.
But it can't be ignored that he had a shocking squad to choose from. Just look at some of those players. |
nonsense, more than two thirds of that squad were mick championship players, others had the potential to become solid championship players under the right manager.
he had one window in the championship to improve it and did even worse than hurst! | |
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| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 19:42 - Nov 29 with 555 views | OsborneOneNil |
Lambert was horrific.
That is all. |  | | |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 19:47 - Nov 29 with 532 views | chrismakin |
| Seen a few times now various posters saying that on 18:59 - Nov 29 by positivity |
nonsense, more than two thirds of that squad were mick championship players, others had the potential to become solid championship players under the right manager.
he had one window in the championship to improve it and did even worse than hurst! |
Which players do you consider champ players out of that list at the time Lambert took them on. | |
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