| Not scoring from corners 09:33 - Mar 28 with 1767 views | roysboys |
I am loving the KMcK revival at Portman Road and the style of football we are playing but we do seem to lack a goal threat from corners. I wonder what the problem is? Are our centre backs too 'nice'? Is the delivery inconsistent? Discuss! |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 09:39 - Mar 28 with 1737 views | Radlett_blue |
Statistically, only about 4% of corners result in a goal from the ensuing play and far fewer from a direct header from a corner. Crowds always get excited because the ball is going into the danger area, but a goal is very unlikely. Knowing that made Oxford's recent equaliser even more galling. So no, we shouldn't be devoting huge amounts of training time trying to improve something which probably isn't below average and which also is unlikely to bear much fruit. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 09:43 - Mar 28 with 1707 views | SitfcB |
| Not scoring from corners on 09:39 - Mar 28 by Radlett_blue |
Statistically, only about 4% of corners result in a goal from the ensuing play and far fewer from a direct header from a corner. Crowds always get excited because the ball is going into the danger area, but a goal is very unlikely. Knowing that made Oxford's recent equaliser even more galling. So no, we shouldn't be devoting huge amounts of training time trying to improve something which probably isn't below average and which also is unlikely to bear much fruit. |
With the amount of corners we’ve had since we last scored from a corner (Shrewsbury H, 9/10/21) we should’ve scored a few goals from them!
It is something that should be worked on. Wouldn’t be surprised if we get a set piece coach in in the summer. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:07 - Mar 28 with 1614 views | Garv |
Also goals from outside the box. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:08 - Mar 28 with 1610 views | SamWhiteUK |
We don't have enough physical presence to score from corners |  | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:34 - Mar 28 with 1561 views | bobbyramsey |
| Not scoring from corners on 09:39 - Mar 28 by Radlett_blue |
Statistically, only about 4% of corners result in a goal from the ensuing play and far fewer from a direct header from a corner. Crowds always get excited because the ball is going into the danger area, but a goal is very unlikely. Knowing that made Oxford's recent equaliser even more galling. So no, we shouldn't be devoting huge amounts of training time trying to improve something which probably isn't below average and which also is unlikely to bear much fruit. |
Any headed goal would be nice, don't seem to remember too many this season..... |  | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:37 - Mar 28 with 1554 views | PhilTWTD |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:34 - Mar 28 by bobbyramsey |
Any headed goal would be nice, don't seem to remember too many this season..... |
Bonne at Lincoln but no others readily come to mind. |  | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:39 - Mar 28 with 1538 views | Dubtractor |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:34 - Mar 28 by bobbyramsey |
Any headed goal would be nice, don't seem to remember too many this season..... |
Smart tactics to avoid playing for headed goals, future proofing our tactics for when heading the ball gets banned. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:40 - Mar 28 with 1539 views | clive_baker |
Something McKenna touched on in his post match presser, so it's certainly been noted.
I think with 2 of Edmundson, Burgess, Woolfy on the field and probably 1 of Norwood / Bonne / Piggot we do have a bit of a threat. The delivery hasn't been great at times, but it's true that we very rarely threaten from corners. Which is a shame as we're likely to keep winning them with the amount of wide threat we have. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:46 - Mar 28 with 1504 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:40 - Mar 28 by clive_baker |
Something McKenna touched on in his post match presser, so it's certainly been noted.
I think with 2 of Edmundson, Burgess, Woolfy on the field and probably 1 of Norwood / Bonne / Piggot we do have a bit of a threat. The delivery hasn't been great at times, but it's true that we very rarely threaten from corners. Which is a shame as we're likely to keep winning them with the amount of wide threat we have. |
I don't think the delivery is too bad generally, we just don't seem to attack the ball very well. Berra, Chambers and Smith were real masters of that, despite not being towering centre backs. Murphy too. I don't remember Anderson/Tabb's delivery being particularly special. [Post edited 28 Mar 2022 10:50]
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:47 - Mar 28 with 1495 views | franz_tyson |
| Not scoring from corners on 09:39 - Mar 28 by Radlett_blue |
Statistically, only about 4% of corners result in a goal from the ensuing play and far fewer from a direct header from a corner. Crowds always get excited because the ball is going into the danger area, but a goal is very unlikely. Knowing that made Oxford's recent equaliser even more galling. So no, we shouldn't be devoting huge amounts of training time trying to improve something which probably isn't below average and which also is unlikely to bear much fruit. |
Why disregard set-pieces? Especially as we're going to have to find other ways to score more goals.
We can't expect to score all our goals from crosses from the right where a midfielder arrives just at the right time, right place.
There's teams whose main strategy is making the most out of set-pieces. Why can't we learn from them? We too good for that? Chambers used to get his fair-share, Smith, too. We don't have to compromise our playing style in the slightest.Just give ourselves that extra chance of scoring. It's not as if we're banging in goals left, right and centre . | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:58 - Mar 28 with 1453 views | SitfcB |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:37 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
Bonne at Lincoln but no others readily come to mind. |
Bonne against Shrewsbury. | |
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| Not scoring from corners on 10:58 - Mar 28 with 1456 views | rickw |
Statistically we have 8 goals from set pieces this season - which places us 21st in the table for that (Rotherham top with 19) , we've only conceded 9 from set pieces too, (5th best record - again Rotherham top with just 4).
It does make a big difference and I'm sure McKenna knows that and is working on it, Mick always had us doing well with set pieces - but it's not just managers like him who clearly work on them - Man City and Liverpool have scored the most set piece goals in the PL and Man City have only conceded 1 from set pieces too. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 11:02 - Mar 28 with 1437 views | SitfcB |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:58 - Mar 28 by SitfcB |
Bonne against Shrewsbury. |
Lee Evans against Doncaster. | |
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| Not scoring from corners on 11:03 - Mar 28 with 1432 views | PhilTWTD |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:58 - Mar 28 by SitfcB |
Bonne against Shrewsbury. |
Ah yes, that was a really good header from a set piece. | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 11:06 - Mar 28 with 1409 views | clive_baker |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:46 - Mar 28 by tractorboy1978 |
I don't think the delivery is too bad generally, we just don't seem to attack the ball very well. Berra, Chambers and Smith were real masters of that, despite not being towering centre backs. Murphy too. I don't remember Anderson/Tabb's delivery being particularly special. [Post edited 28 Mar 2022 10:50]
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Yeah definitely think it's a bit of both, Smith, Berra, Chambers were really threatening from set pieces, I think we also had a culture and identity that put a lot of emphasis on it under Mick, which I would imagine we don't now. Anderson put a lovely ball in though, to be fair to him. | |
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| Not scoring from corners on 11:55 - Mar 28 with 1318 views | SamWhiteUK |
That year when we had Chambers, Berra and Smith going up was brilliant for set pieces. I genuinely felt we were likely to score every time we went up there. I'd be interested to see the stats, to see if goals were as common as I remember. I'd wager we were one of the top teams in that regard that year. | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 13:08 - Mar 28 with 1244 views | longtimefan |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:37 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
Bonne at Lincoln but no others readily come to mind. |
Norwood against Sunderland (not from a corner) | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 13:11 - Mar 28 with 1236 views | PhilTWTD |
| Not scoring from corners on 11:55 - Mar 28 by SamWhiteUK |
That year when we had Chambers, Berra and Smith going up was brilliant for set pieces. I genuinely felt we were likely to score every time we went up there. I'd be interested to see the stats, to see if goals were as common as I remember. I'd wager we were one of the top teams in that regard that year. |
I think the two centre-halves that season, Smith and Berra, scored 13 between them. Murphy was obviously a big presence as well and I'm sure plenty of his 27 came from set pieces. | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 14:22 - Mar 28 with 1116 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Not scoring from corners on 10:07 - Mar 28 by Garv |
Also goals from outside the box. |
Jackson vs Burton the most recent one I can think of. |  |
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| Not scoring from corners on 11:04 - Apr 1 with 919 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Not scoring from corners on 13:11 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
I think the two centre-halves that season, Smith and Berra, scored 13 between them. Murphy was obviously a big presence as well and I'm sure plenty of his 27 came from set pieces. |
Murphy as well, of course, I'd forgotten that was his goal-scoring year. | | | |
| Not scoring from corners on 11:18 - Apr 1 with 883 views | jayessess |
| Not scoring from corners on 09:39 - Mar 28 by Radlett_blue |
Statistically, only about 4% of corners result in a goal from the ensuing play and far fewer from a direct header from a corner. Crowds always get excited because the ball is going into the danger area, but a goal is very unlikely. Knowing that made Oxford's recent equaliser even more galling. So no, we shouldn't be devoting huge amounts of training time trying to improve something which probably isn't below average and which also is unlikely to bear much fruit. |
We've had 405 corners this season and I think we've scored three times (Evans v Doncaster, Bonne v Shrews, Aluko v Cambridge). At 4% that's 13 goals we've missed out on.
If we'd scored another 13 goals our goal difference would be the same as Wigan's... |  |
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