| Tory leadership candidates.. 21:25 - Jun 5 with 2384 views | SaleAway |
This thread is epic and terrifying. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 21:45 - Jun 5 with 2304 views | Swansea_Blue |
Grim stuff innit. Johnson needs to go and hopefully nobody from his cabal gets anywhere near a nomination. But the rot won’t stop until all the Tory’s clear off. Some pundits are saying this could be the start of the end of them, although that sounds like wishful thinking to me. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:08 - Jun 5 with 2233 views | XYZ |
"Seemingly recruited into Tory ranks directly from a fight over the outcome of a meat raffle outside a flat-roofed pub."
Poetry. | | | |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:19 - Jun 5 with 2192 views | Pablo_Counago |
An impressive collection of people totally devoid of charisma, morals or any ability that would relate to being a good PM |  | | |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:30 - Jun 5 with 2159 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:19 - Jun 5 by Pablo_Counago |
An impressive collection of people totally devoid of charisma, morals or any ability that would relate to being a good PM |
Well that's how we finally get rid of them, because "charisma" is the only thing that's been getting the current pr*ck through the public vote. Get him out and hold on tight for the next election. | | | |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:36 - Jun 5 with 2142 views | HARRY10 |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 21:45 - Jun 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Grim stuff innit. Johnson needs to go and hopefully nobody from his cabal gets anywhere near a nomination. But the rot won’t stop until all the Tory’s clear off. Some pundits are saying this could be the start of the end of them, although that sounds like wishful thinking to me. |
The problem is having to placate the swivel eyed loons, while at the same tome keeping the mainstream voters onside.
The local elections demonstrated that the latter are quite prepared to vote against the party, rather than sit at home, when a shyster like bloater is in charge. And any guff about an 'agenda' is no longer believed - as much of the agenda has been no more than false promises with (I suspect) no intention of following through, or the ability to, either.
The progressives will be hoping for a vote of confidence, that the bloater scrapes home with around 100 or so voting against. Those MPs will then have the power to bring down the government, with there then being no choice but to heave out the walrus from number 10.
All very messy, and allowing time for the bloater to cause further damage to the country via more hare brained schemes - backed by out of touch comments from Dorries, Shapps, the stick insect and any number of barking mad MPs.
The anger at the Major government was not solely down to their 'crimes', but their desperate and long drawn out attempts to cling on. Pervy Pete the porn watching Parliamentarian is now (almost) forgotten. Whether he jumped, or was pushed, matters little to voters. He went, almost immediately.
Whereas it could be that it will take a few crowbars, and (spare) tyre leavers to oust this porcine PM from number 10. [Post edited 5 Jun 2022 22:54]
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:38 - Jun 5 with 2133 views | hype313 |
Brilliant |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 22:58 - Jun 5 with 2085 views | HARRY10 |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 23:53 - Jun 5 with 1981 views | Whos_blue |
How thoroughly depressing.
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:43 - Jun 6 with 1775 views | Pinewoodblue |
Don’t expect Johnson to walk away without a fight. There is no guarantee he won’t still be PM after the leadership vote. If he survives he can’t be challenged again for twelve months.
Not sure Labour could get a vote of no confidence through HoC. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:51 - Jun 6 with 1751 views | hype313 |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:43 - Jun 6 by Pinewoodblue |
Don’t expect Johnson to walk away without a fight. There is no guarantee he won’t still be PM after the leadership vote. If he survives he can’t be challenged again for twelve months.
Not sure Labour could get a vote of no confidence through HoC. |
Very few, if any sitting PM's survive the long term having faced a VONC, Major and May both limped on before they were eventually put down.
I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of MP's have been sitting quietly in the background waiting for this.
Also, Johnson doesn't have many allies in the Tory party, it was a marriage of convenience at best. | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:58 - Jun 6 with 1731 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:51 - Jun 6 by hype313 |
Very few, if any sitting PM's survive the long term having faced a VONC, Major and May both limped on before they were eventually put down.
I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of MP's have been sitting quietly in the background waiting for this.
Also, Johnson doesn't have many allies in the Tory party, it was a marriage of convenience at best. |
John Major went ion for another two years after his confidence vote, completed a full term in government and only left after defeat at the 1997 general election.
Corbyn actually lost a VOC in 2016 and still went on to fight two general elections as Labour leader. I wonder if Johnson will do a Corbyn and go to court to ensure the sitting leader is automatically on the ballot to members. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 09:06 - Jun 6 with 1708 views | Guthrum |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:58 - Jun 6 by GlasgowBlue |
John Major went ion for another two years after his confidence vote, completed a full term in government and only left after defeat at the 1997 general election.
Corbyn actually lost a VOC in 2016 and still went on to fight two general elections as Labour leader. I wonder if Johnson will do a Corbyn and go to court to ensure the sitting leader is automatically on the ballot to members. |
I thought the party's rules specifically excluded the loser of a VONC from standing in the subsequent leadership election? |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 09:21 - Jun 6 with 1675 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 09:06 - Jun 6 by Guthrum |
I thought the party's rules specifically excluded the loser of a VONC from standing in the subsequent leadership election? |
Is a a rule or is it convention? Corbyn was the first to challenge the convention in 2016. But their rules may be different.
That said, if they are different then why did Corbyn have to go to court to get in the ballot. | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 09:52 - Jun 6 with 1631 views | Guthrum |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 09:21 - Jun 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Is a a rule or is it convention? Corbyn was the first to challenge the convention in 2016. But their rules may be different.
That said, if they are different then why did Corbyn have to go to court to get in the ballot. |
Each party's rules are distinct and of their own making. Leadership is, after all, entirely an internal affair - and technically unrelated to who is Prime Minister (they do not need to be the same individual, as happened in 1940 when Chamberlain retained the party leadership while stepping down as PM). | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 10:04 - Jun 6 with 1597 views | Chrisd |
Labour could knock this right out of the park, but the fact Starmer isn't someone that many are able to buy into or convinced by leaves them missing a huge trick. It's right there for you Labour, go and grab it instead of just watching, they won't get a better time to get their boot more firmly on the Tory throats. | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:20 - Jun 6 with 1518 views | chicoazul |
Why do all these Coldplay centrist dads have the same beard glasses and smirk. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:32 - Jun 6 with 1497 views | MattinLondon |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:20 - Jun 6 by chicoazul |
Why do all these Coldplay centrist dads have the same beard glasses and smirk. |
Same reason why some always use ‘centralist’ as some sort of insult…fashion. |  | | |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:44 - Jun 6 with 1456 views | chicoazul |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:32 - Jun 6 by MattinLondon |
Same reason why some always use ‘centralist’ as some sort of insult…fashion. |
“Centrist” | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 12:11 - Jun 6 with 1399 views | MattinLondon |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 11:44 - Jun 6 by chicoazul |
“Centrist” |
Fashionista. | | | |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 12:26 - Jun 6 with 1362 views | bournemouthblue |
Tory leadership battles are a strange thing, logic would suggest Rishi but in reality you'll probably end up with Priti Patel
I do think the Tories are too scared to dismiss Boris, simply because they know he is deceptively popular with idiots |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 12:58 - Jun 6 with 1317 views | Chrisd |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 12:26 - Jun 6 by bournemouthblue |
Tory leadership battles are a strange thing, logic would suggest Rishi but in reality you'll probably end up with Priti Patel
I do think the Tories are too scared to dismiss Boris, simply because they know he is deceptively popular with idiots |
If the Tories had an opposition they feared I doubt very much if Bojo would still be their leader. It is a sad reflection of the political playground at the moment. | |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 13:10 - Jun 6 with 1279 views | Radlett_blue |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 10:04 - Jun 6 by Chrisd |
Labour could knock this right out of the park, but the fact Starmer isn't someone that many are able to buy into or convinced by leaves them missing a huge trick. It's right there for you Labour, go and grab it instead of just watching, they won't get a better time to get their boot more firmly on the Tory throats. |
Starmer is uncharismatic, but the electorate generally turf out unpopular governments rather than vote in oppositions so safe & steady may do the job, unlike Corbyn who would have scared off many potential Tory waverers.
If Boris is turfed out by his MPs, I will put my fingers in my ears when Starmer makes the inevitable, fruitless call for an immediate General Election. |  |
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| Tory leadership candidates.. on 13:46 - Jun 6 with 1208 views | HARRY10 |
| Tory leadership candidates.. on 08:58 - Jun 6 by GlasgowBlue |
John Major went ion for another two years after his confidence vote, completed a full term in government and only left after defeat at the 1997 general election.
Corbyn actually lost a VOC in 2016 and still went on to fight two general elections as Labour leader. I wonder if Johnson will do a Corbyn and go to court to ensure the sitting leader is automatically on the ballot to members. |
Majors error was to hang on for another two years. Having won the vote of confidence with his MPs there was every chance he would win a GE. Those two years led to the huge Labour landslide of 1997.
The Tories need this resolved quickly. Johnson is stinking out the office of PM. If there is around 100 (or more) against then he is as good as dead in the water. Labour can pick him off at will. He would lose a Labour VONC in the commons.
As expected, bar the stick insect, the rest are keeping schtum. His contribution this morning was merely to confirm how wrong he was in 2018. You don't need to look too closely to see why, within the confines of Parliament, Oxford and Eton, he was regarded as one of the lesser intellects. And he seems to be determined to spread that appraisal to the wider electorate.
Sounds just the sort of clueless idiot to carry on the bloaters catastrophic tenure as PM  | | | |
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