| Mills 14:37 - Aug 28 with 3636 views | Garv |
Thoroughly enjoyed someone post match calling him out for being a negative whinge. I missed the start of the call but apparently he was bemoaning the number of corners we won or something?
He got very defensive and childish when challenged. It's about time someone did. |  |
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| Mills on 14:51 - Aug 28 with 3168 views | BlueBadger |
To be fair, I'd get annoyed by people who struggle to understand the concept of automatic doors 'calling me out' if I had his level of insight into the game as well. [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 14:55]
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| Mills on 15:02 - Aug 28 with 3101 views | olimar |
The caller was classic "we are top of the league, stop finding things to moan about" gang.
Mills said we struggled to create much against them in the first 70 mins, couldnt get our game going, probably didnt deserve to win at that point, but then based on the last 20 mins deserved to win.
He pointed out that we only one a single corner in the first half/first 70 mins (forget which) as an example of this lack of dominance.
So the very binary conclusion from the caller was that Mick was criticising the team for not winning enough corners and went off on one about who cares whether we win corners etc etc, that it was finding something to moan about when we are playing well etc etc.
Related, the xG stats are also another indicator of the same point Mills was making.
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| Mills on 15:08 - Aug 28 with 3063 views | jeera |
Thoroughly enjoyed someone post match calling out the Ipswich Town legend Mick Mills for doing the job he is asked to do and analyse what he sees in front of him?
Shameful stuff. |  |
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| Mills on 15:13 - Aug 28 with 3031 views | Whos_blue |
Mills was spot on with his overall summary. He wasn't being negative at all, just measured.
The caller completely missed the point being made and went off at Mills for being negative.
Another classic example of someone who is clearly very passionate about Town but having zero actual football knowledge getting in a tizz. It's seems to be a modern thing and to be fair, the caller probably has no knowledge of Mills or what his history is.
Mills shouldn't hold a moritorium of opinion on Town, but tje caller was just a little naive in my opinion. |  |
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| Mills on 15:13 - Aug 28 with 3032 views | Simonds92 |
I think i could understand the argument both sides, the caller could have pointed to the fact Harness' goal counts and we would have then been very comfortable. I can understand Micks point that Barnsley didnt allow us to settle and play our usual game (we need to be aware of this btw because that will happen all season). I personally thought we were edging it before the last 20 mins but we then hammered them the last part of the game and definitely should have won. However, instead of articulating his point, the caller was just a bit of a nob. | | | |
| Mills on 15:18 - Aug 28 with 3004 views | BlueNomad |
Radio listener knows more than England World Cup Captain on the subject of football……
I don’t think so. |  | | |
| Mills on 15:19 - Aug 28 with 3012 views | SitfcB |
Bit here on it
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| Mills on 15:41 - Aug 28 with 2903 views | DJR |
| Mills on 15:13 - Aug 28 by Whos_blue |
Mills was spot on with his overall summary. He wasn't being negative at all, just measured.
The caller completely missed the point being made and went off at Mills for being negative.
Another classic example of someone who is clearly very passionate about Town but having zero actual football knowledge getting in a tizz. It's seems to be a modern thing and to be fair, the caller probably has no knowledge of Mills or what his history is.
Mills shouldn't hold a moritorium of opinion on Town, but tje caller was just a little naive in my opinion. |
Agreed. The whole point of having a summariser is to tell it as it is, not be a cheerleader for the team. If you want that, I've no doubt Town TV will be right up your street because I rather doubt in-house people will be encouraged to criticise. For what it is worth, MM has been very positive this season, but as he rightly pointed out you don't really want him to mimic Paul Lambert and say we've played well when we haven't. |  | | |
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| Mills on 16:12 - Aug 28 with 2799 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
You missed what he said but enjoyed the caller calling him out for getting it wrong! Wow! Were you the caller by any chance? He, too, completely missed the point MM made and was very rude to him. |  |
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| Mills on 16:16 - Aug 28 with 2776 views | Chrisd |
MM has played at the top level, won major trophies been captain of club sides and his country (42 caps) and has over 900 professional appearances to his name. Think he might know a little bit more about the game, what it takes to win matches and the mentality needed to be successful than Joe Bloggs calling from The Dog and Gun who occasionally turns out for their pub side XI on a Sunday morning. | |
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| Mills on 16:21 - Aug 28 with 2757 views | pennblue |
Mills handled the caller very well I thought.
With regards to the 'why can't we just enjoy being top of the league' viewpoint of the caller. 'Winners' (aka Mick Mills) are constantly striving to do better, to drive up the standards.
Until we are smashing Barnsley 9-0 then the caller should expect Mills to be critical. | |
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| Mills on 16:23 - Aug 28 with 2744 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Mills on 16:16 - Aug 28 by Chrisd |
MM has played at the top level, won major trophies been captain of club sides and his country (42 caps) and has over 900 professional appearances to his name. Think he might know a little bit more about the game, what it takes to win matches and the mentality needed to be successful than Joe Bloggs calling from The Dog and Gun who occasionally turns out for their pub side XI on a Sunday morning. |
Plus the argument was over a complete misunderstanding.
MM said our lack of corners showed we were not putting the opposition under enough pressure because good pressure will lead to corners. The caller took that to mean we should be trying to earn corners and argued that we shouldn't be because we rarely score from them. That was not MM's point at all. | |
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| Mills on 20:01 - Aug 28 with 2480 views | monkeymagic |
The caller was either incredibly thick or didn’t realise the context of Mills comments. To side with him over an ex pro with circa 700 first class games, captaining both his Club and County, is staggering. Mills is employed by RS to give his opinions, not sugar coated post most analysis. | | | |
| Mills on 20:06 - Aug 28 with 2436 views | GlasgowBlue |
The bloke was called a Nathan and he was a complete arse who didn’t seem to grasp the finer points in football.
Mick Mills was saying that we didn’t force a corner until the 60th minute. Nathan said that getting corners was pointless as we don’t score from them. He couldn’t grasp Mills point that winning corners is a result of the attacking team putting pressure on the defence.
Mick Mills has captained Ipswich to FA Cup and UEFA Cup wins and captained England in a World Cup. Nathan has called a regional phone in.
I know who understands more about football bwteeen those two. [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 20:07]
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| Mills on 20:25 - Aug 28 with 2357 views | DJR |
| Mills on 20:06 - Aug 28 by GlasgowBlue |
The bloke was called a Nathan and he was a complete arse who didn’t seem to grasp the finer points in football.
Mick Mills was saying that we didn’t force a corner until the 60th minute. Nathan said that getting corners was pointless as we don’t score from them. He couldn’t grasp Mills point that winning corners is a result of the attacking team putting pressure on the defence.
Mick Mills has captained Ipswich to FA Cup and UEFA Cup wins and captained England in a World Cup. Nathan has called a regional phone in.
I know who understands more about football bwteeen those two. [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 20:07]
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Bring back Frank from Holland, who used to be a regular caller and has his own take on the matter. https://ipswich.vitalfootball.co.uk/mick-mills-backed-into-a-corner/ [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 20:36]
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| Mills on 20:30 - Aug 28 with 2326 views | lazyblue |
The caller was an idiot and did not get the (Correct)point Mills was making and just went off on one, complete disrespect to the clubs most successful captain we will ever have! | | | |
| Mills on 20:42 - Aug 28 with 2239 views | DJR |
| Mills on 20:30 - Aug 28 by lazyblue |
The caller was an idiot and did not get the (Correct)point Mills was making and just went off on one, complete disrespect to the clubs most successful captain we will ever have! |
I think Mick Mills was a bit taken aback because I can't imagine any caller has ever been as rude to him as that. Graham Mac was quite polite to him but I suppose it's a bit similar to a shop assistant who can't answer back however rude the customer. Someone like Brian Hayes (who adopted an aggressive approach to callers and whom I listened to on LBC when I accompanied my dad on work trips to London in the 70s) would have given him short shrift, but that probably isn't the done thing these days. [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 20:47]
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| Mills on 21:27 - Aug 28 with 2153 views | Garv |
| Mills on 15:08 - Aug 28 by jeera |
Thoroughly enjoyed someone post match calling out the Ipswich Town legend Mick Mills for doing the job he is asked to do and analyse what he sees in front of him?
Shameful stuff. |
Sounds a little like he can't have a bad word said about him because of his name. | |
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| Mills on 21:30 - Aug 28 with 2106 views | Garv |
| Mills on 16:12 - Aug 28 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You missed what he said but enjoyed the caller calling him out for getting it wrong! Wow! Were you the caller by any chance? He, too, completely missed the point MM made and was very rude to him. |
I never said he was wrong. He might have been right, but that doesn't stop him being a negative whinge. | |
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| Mills on 21:32 - Aug 28 with 2093 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Mills on 21:27 - Aug 28 by Garv |
Sounds a little like he can't have a bad word said about him because of his name. |
The caller was wrong. Mick Mills was right. Had you actually caught what they were arguing about you might have realised that.
No one is saying that Mick Mills can't possibly get anything about football wrong. However, there are ways to disagree and most callers recognise this if they do disagree with him. Most callers actually listen to him and can argue the point on offer.
His name represents a very experienced footballing knowledge that few other people alive have.
I sometimes cringe a little when Mick Mills criticises a manager's decisions because I don't think he was that successful as a manager himself. However, when he is analysing aspects of a football match to ignore his credentials is plain wrong. It would be akin to having had enough of experts. | |
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| Mills on 22:04 - Aug 28 with 2002 views | jeera |
| Mills on 21:27 - Aug 28 by Garv |
Sounds a little like he can't have a bad word said about him because of his name. |
Or who he is and what he's achieved.
He's earned the right to some respect and it wouldn't hurt people to remember that he's one of the players who put us firmly on the map. | |
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| Mills on 22:13 - Aug 28 with 1963 views | BlueBadger |
| Mills on 21:27 - Aug 28 by Garv |
Sounds a little like he can't have a bad word said about him because of his name. |
Mate, you thought Jewell shouldn''t have lost his job when his did and rated Judge and Drurry.
I'm not sure you're the finest judge of who's got the best football insight right now. [Post edited 28 Aug 2022 22:14]
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| Mills on 22:17 - Aug 28 with 1946 views | Whos_blue |
| Mills on 21:30 - Aug 28 by Garv |
I never said he was wrong. He might have been right, but that doesn't stop him being a negative whinge. |
Haven't we established he wasn't having a negative whinge?
Personally I think it's a privilege to hear someone of Mills' stature gracing a local radio football show.
Whether I agree with everything he says is neither here nor there. He offers a fascinating insight into the game.
The caller also had every right to express a contrary position, but just got it wrong and tried to shout Mills down and talk over him.
Ultimately they both want town to do well.
One has forgotten more about the game than any of us will ever know. The other was a little over excited and completely missed the point. | |
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| Mills on 07:01 - Aug 29 with 1578 views | shamboy |
I can't find it on Sounds. Can anyone provide a link, please? | | | |
| Mills on 07:31 - Aug 29 with 1530 views | DJR |
| Mills on 07:01 - Aug 29 by shamboy |
I can't find it on Sounds. Can anyone provide a link, please? |
Here's a link. It starts at about 30 minutes in.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0crzppj
EDIT: For context you probably need to listen to the lead up to the call. [Post edited 29 Aug 2022 8:07]
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