| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. 19:34 - Nov 6 with 3830 views | BlueBadger |
The first ever national strike from nurses is happening.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63403850
I've never been an RCN member, because I've found them to be a bit supine and elitist(healthcare is a team game, I'm a Unison man), so for them to be doing this is massive. That said, if I'm not working(I fall under the 'critical care' exemption criteria) I WILL be joining be joining my colleague on the picket lines.
There will be a LOT of lies put out by the government in the next few weeks.
Don't fall for it kids. [Post edited 6 Nov 2022 22:39]
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 19:49 - Nov 6 with 3304 views | J2BLUE |
Sorry it's come to this. The nation has failed you. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 19:57 - Nov 6 with 3279 views | BlueBadger |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 19:49 - Nov 6 by J2BLUE |
Sorry it's come to this. The nation has failed you. |
It's been a long time in the making. We're a slightly odd workforce - individually, there will be no f**ks given, generally, collectively we've been far too long in thrall to emotional blackmail. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 20:03 - Nov 6 with 3256 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 21:57 - Nov 6 with 3135 views | Whos_blue |
They will continue to demonise any workers who have the audacity to campaign for a fair wage.
They will come at you hard with tales of extended waiting times putting lives at risk etc.
They clapped for you once.
Stay strong brother.
Solidarity. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 22:23 - Nov 6 with 3100 views | BlueBadger |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 21:57 - Nov 6 by Whos_blue |
They will continue to demonise any workers who have the audacity to campaign for a fair wage.
They will come at you hard with tales of extended waiting times putting lives at risk etc.
They clapped for you once.
Stay strong brother.
Solidarity. |
Many, many, many more lives have been endangered by 12 years of 'reforms', cuts, demonising foreigners, corruption and incompetence than a day of strike action will cause. [Post edited 8 Nov 2022 3:34]
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 22:30 - Nov 6 with 3089 views | factual_blue |
' There will be a LOT of lies put out by the government in the next few weeks. '
So a fairly usual few weeks coming up then.
Hope you win. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 09:35 - Nov 7 with 2860 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 09:38 - Nov 7 with 2850 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Yep, my wife is a Lung Cancer Clinical Nurse Specialist, she's voted out. Everyone she has spoken to has voted out too.
As Lecturers, we've also gone just recently, University support staff, (Unison), have also gone. Theres a UCU meeting today to discuss the next steps. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 11:00 - Nov 7 with 2759 views | BlueBadger |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 09:38 - Nov 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yep, my wife is a Lung Cancer Clinical Nurse Specialist, she's voted out. Everyone she has spoken to has voted out too.
As Lecturers, we've also gone just recently, University support staff, (Unison), have also gone. Theres a UCU meeting today to discuss the next steps. |
Junior doctors are likely coming out in sympathy as well.
At least two of my consultants have endorsed industrial action. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 12:10 - Nov 7 with 2710 views | bluelagos |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 20:03 - Nov 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
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Think they've had enough claps Bankster, can't pay the mortgage with those. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 12:28 - Nov 7 with 2683 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 11:00 - Nov 7 by BlueBadger |
Junior doctors are likely coming out in sympathy as well.
At least two of my consultants have endorsed industrial action. |
Frustrating thing for us is many are assuming its just about money. For us it's the appalling treatment being handed to us by University VC's and by the government.
We've apparently no money for permanent staff, but we've cash to burn on what we call Part-Time Hourly Paid staff, who are only contracted for their contact time with students, but have no guarantee of a new contract the following September.
We've just gone through a 2022/23 student recruitment cycle and are being beaten with a stick over recruitment, despite the fact that during the recruitment cycle, (Nov 2021 - Jan 22) we were under the developing threat of the Omicron Covid variant, whilst at the same time, asking why we can do all the work we did through the lockdowns, but not doing it at the same level now. You know, as though we weren't all doing 70-80 hour weeks during that period so that Students could still complete the work.
Many of us have come to the ends of very very long ropes. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:24 - Nov 7 with 2617 views | mutters |
What a position to be in. All the nurses I've have ever met have been absolutely lovely, and deserve to be treated much more fairly. For them to get to this point shows how hard it has been. My sister is a nurse and she's torn. She does not want to strike as she care too much about her patients (mental health nurse on a ward) but she wants to show solidarity with her fella works. She has no idea what to do [Post edited 7 Nov 2022 13:25]
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| Nurses are already underpaid and undervalued for the crucial role they play.... on 13:38 - Nov 7 with 2571 views | unstableblue |
... in our society
They are the coal face of medical treatment that you or loved ones will rely on through your lifetime.
As well as care, administering drugs effectively, etc etc. They often provide a much-needed psychological boost to patients and much needed comfort.
Sadly, they are often catching the brunt of a society that has a care crisis, and is becoming more polarised and aggressive... with rascist or verbal abuse common place in hospitals and care environments.
Yet the average wage if circa £33k. They are asking for 5% in real terms.
They are worth every penny and more. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:39 - Nov 7 with 2569 views | LeoMuff |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:24 - Nov 7 by mutters |
What a position to be in. All the nurses I've have ever met have been absolutely lovely, and deserve to be treated much more fairly. For them to get to this point shows how hard it has been. My sister is a nurse and she's torn. She does not want to strike as she care too much about her patients (mental health nurse on a ward) but she wants to show solidarity with her fella works. She has no idea what to do [Post edited 7 Nov 2022 13:25]
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She should absolutely vote to strike, we are 10s of thousands of nurses short and that number is rising rapidly. It’s not just about pay it’s about a protest against an active policy of decimated services for 12 years now.
Enough is enough real term cuts in Nhs funding for years, real term cuts in pay for years, it may not change anything, but those within the NHS have to shout out about how incredibly bad things have become. |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:52 - Nov 7 with 2557 views | mutters |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:39 - Nov 7 by LeoMuff |
She should absolutely vote to strike, we are 10s of thousands of nurses short and that number is rising rapidly. It’s not just about pay it’s about a protest against an active policy of decimated services for 12 years now.
Enough is enough real term cuts in Nhs funding for years, real term cuts in pay for years, it may not change anything, but those within the NHS have to shout out about how incredibly bad things have become. |
It's not the issue of the vote to strike, it's the actual going on strike that she is struggling with. She feels like she's letting down her patients if she isn't there as she has an incredible bond with her ward as it's a closed secure ward. I imagine a lot of nurses feel this way.
I do agree that the nurses have been mistreated for such a long time, the lack of support for the NHS has been going on for decades. Sadly it look like the threat of striking is the only other to make a difference | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 16:42 - Nov 7 with 2496 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:52 - Nov 7 by mutters |
It's not the issue of the vote to strike, it's the actual going on strike that she is struggling with. She feels like she's letting down her patients if she isn't there as she has an incredible bond with her ward as it's a closed secure ward. I imagine a lot of nurses feel this way.
I do agree that the nurses have been mistreated for such a long time, the lack of support for the NHS has been going on for decades. Sadly it look like the threat of striking is the only other to make a difference |
"She feels like she's letting down her patients"
Thats exactly the kind of conscience that many many governments have relied upon for decades in order to keep nurses well and truly over a barrel.
She should vote to strike. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 17:17 - Nov 7 with 2447 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Am I right in saying you live in Scotland BB? Understand similar there, Scottish government have said there is nmoney for pay increases? What's the feeling North of the border?
If I'm wrong and you are not in Scotland do ignore, I'm just curious as to how Sturgeon - and Swiney- is coping when she can't put lines of separation between her position and the UK government, esp when trying to againate for another indy ref |  |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 18:05 - Nov 7 with 2394 views | Geomorph |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 09:38 - Nov 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yep, my wife is a Lung Cancer Clinical Nurse Specialist, she's voted out. Everyone she has spoken to has voted out too.
As Lecturers, we've also gone just recently, University support staff, (Unison), have also gone. Theres a UCU meeting today to discuss the next steps. |
we (Environment Agency) have an ongoing strike ballot for us Unison members... having lost an equivalent of 30% of our salaries since 2010 |  | | |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 18:27 - Nov 7 with 2360 views | mutters |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 16:42 - Nov 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"She feels like she's letting down her patients"
Thats exactly the kind of conscience that many many governments have relied upon for decades in order to keep nurses well and truly over a barrel.
She should vote to strike. |
From my perspective (an outsider looking in) it seems like the obvious thing to do.
For her it's harder. No matter how much politics, being fooked over by successive governments, working conditions etc are throw as arguements to her, at the core of it she became a nurse to help people. Not being at their side makes her feel like she's not doing that. She doesn't give a flying cr@p about politics or how much she gets paid, she loves her job. Guess that's as you say what the government (s) rely on. | |
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 00:38 - Nov 8 with 2271 views | BlueBadger |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 13:24 - Nov 7 by mutters |
What a position to be in. All the nurses I've have ever met have been absolutely lovely, and deserve to be treated much more fairly. For them to get to this point shows how hard it has been. My sister is a nurse and she's torn. She does not want to strike as she care too much about her patients (mental health nurse on a ward) but she wants to show solidarity with her fella works. She has no idea what to do [Post edited 7 Nov 2022 13:25]
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 03:37 - Nov 8 with 2238 views | BlueBadger |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 18:27 - Nov 7 by mutters |
From my perspective (an outsider looking in) it seems like the obvious thing to do.
For her it's harder. No matter how much politics, being fooked over by successive governments, working conditions etc are throw as arguements to her, at the core of it she became a nurse to help people. Not being at their side makes her feel like she's not doing that. She doesn't give a flying cr@p about politics or how much she gets paid, she loves her job. Guess that's as you say what the government (s) rely on. |
How it will likely work is if you are working in an acute(read: inpatient) setting the guidance will be that you are exempt from strike action and will go in as normal.
After that, it's up to her - I'm a critical care outreach nurse by trade - if I'm rostered on for days of strike action I will go in. However, I plan on taking EVERY minute of my breaks, finishing ON THE DOT and will be unavailable to referrals for anything other than cardiac arrest calls and will be standing with my colleagues on any picket lines at the building.
If I'm not working, I will on the picket line and not picking up any short shifts or doing 'bank' work. [Post edited 8 Nov 2022 3:45]
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 05:46 - Nov 8 with 2203 views | Ely_Blue |
Is it the government that are putting out the lies that part of the “demands” are RPI (currently 12%) +5% as the pay demand?
I just want to know if that’s BS or not? [Post edited 8 Nov 2022 5:52]
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| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 07:13 - Nov 8 with 2131 views | Churchman |
| Fair play to the UK government. A new achievement. on 22:23 - Nov 6 by BlueBadger |
Many, many, many more lives have been endangered by 12 years of 'reforms', cuts, demonising foreigners, corruption and incompetence than a day of strike action will cause. [Post edited 8 Nov 2022 3:34]
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Agreed.
Sadly, their lies worked in the 1980s over the steelworkers and miners strikes. Even to this day people like my dad and my buddy blame the Unions for everything.
The government are bound to peddle the same lines. [Post edited 8 Nov 2022 7:14]
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