| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here 13:59 - Feb 5 with 10586 views | SomethingBlue |
Look, we can't dress up the recent form and also the disappointment given that at one point there seemed at least a possibility we could run away with promotion. There are a lot of nerves and tension, sometimes weariness, I totally get it, they affect me as much as anyone. Not going to deny or excuse any of the current flaws we see.
But I think McKenna makes a fair point about not getting saddled with historical disappointments. That's difficult I know — it may be in many ways a new club but it's still Ipswich Town, who have by and large royally fcuked the last two decades in plain sight for most of us. But this is the first sign of choppy waters in just over a year of McKenna being here, a stormy patch in what is still a clear upwards trajectory from where we've been, and I think we need to stay loudly supportive and ride this out.
Even if we end up settling for play-offs — it won't be worse than that as we simply don't lose enough games to fall out of the pack — this is a very good team that I'd back to go the distance. Haven't been able to say that for a long time: the fact we can is significant and we need to channel it.
I'm not sure top two is over in any case. One encouragement: we are drawing stupid games but we're not generally losing them and it still feels to me as if we are a tweak or two, albeit with time running out, away from going on a run. I'll be very interested to see how things look in six weeks. For one thing, Plymouth's coming run of opponents are: Pompey, Oxford, Fleetwood, Posh, Charlton, Derby, Barnsley. It's similar to the awkwardness of our run around December. I would be very surprised if we do not make up some points on them over that time.
Bottom line for me is that such a tremendous difference has been made to the vibe around the whole club, and stadium, in the last year. Take the team out of it: we owe it to each other to keep it going, don't we? Whatever happens the end of this season is going to be huge, probably on a knife edge, and the stakes are undeniably pretty high — so let's give ourselves the best possible chance. It's far from over. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:04 - Feb 5 with 4667 views | J2BLUE |
Completely agree. With 17 games to go and 6 points off second we simply can't give up.
People act like Plymouth won't drop points and seem to miss the 'shock' results from around the country every single week. I wonder how many people had Everton to beat Arsenal. Not many. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:07 - Feb 5 with 4643 views | Dubtractor |
Hard agree.
We're obviously in a dip at the moment, but I have seen some nonsense on here and twitter - eg questioning if McKenna has lost the dressing room, we should have gone for an experienced manager, we're going to miss out on the top 6.
I get that it is frustrating at the moment, but there is a certain type of town fan that seems to thrive on us doing poorly.
We're got a massive few games coming up though, and we need to get close to maximum points from them. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:12 - Feb 5 with 4608 views | Keno |
Good summary, you should be be a writer
I’d have just said some fans need to stop being massive fannies |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:14 - Feb 5 with 4593 views | TheMoralMajority |
Agree with OP. Ignore accidental downvote :/ |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:15 - Feb 5 with 4597 views | Illinoisblue |
Weariness is apt. We saw Sheff Weds lose Bannan for a bit and thought that would hurt them. It didn’t. We saw Plymouth lose Whittaker and thought it would hurt them. If didn’t. We saw ourselves chuck another few million around in the window and thought it would help us. It hasn’t (yet). It all adds to the sense that we can never quite get things right.
And yet we’re only 6 points off the top two with 17 to play. Not a time to be s5itting the bed at all. Not really bothered what happens at Burnley but a win on Saturday and the world will look a lot brighter. [Post edited 5 Feb 2023 14:23]
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 14:17 - Feb 5 with 4555 views | LeoMuff |
Agree I Think it’s not all doom and gloom, yes it’s disappointing that we are not running away with the league, but McK is in his first ever managers job and not even completed a full season.
We have improved significantly from last season, but are not the finished article, we aren’t out of automatic contention yet, and could easily win the play offs though it would of course be a lottery. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:16 - Feb 5 with 4318 views | FrimleyBlue |
Sorry but we're about to be taken over by a club who you could say was more of a 'new club' than we were in the summer
KM's had 3 transfer windows at this new club, the squad has had 8-10 mill spent on it, paying out championship wages.
Lambert messed up when we were top, but at least his excuse can be that he wasn't well backed, the club was a shambles etc
KM doesn't have that problem.
only 4 of the players who started yesturday weren't here when KM came into the club, just 4. So this new club bullux is strange.
The reason the ground is full at PR is because people have seen funding given, players purchased and good football, the belief that promotion will be achieved.
if it's not achieved, it won't be long before that new manager bounce has gone. It's just how football works and crowds will begin to drop. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:22 - Feb 5 with 4304 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:16 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry but we're about to be taken over by a club who you could say was more of a 'new club' than we were in the summer
KM's had 3 transfer windows at this new club, the squad has had 8-10 mill spent on it, paying out championship wages.
Lambert messed up when we were top, but at least his excuse can be that he wasn't well backed, the club was a shambles etc
KM doesn't have that problem.
only 4 of the players who started yesturday weren't here when KM came into the club, just 4. So this new club bullux is strange.
The reason the ground is full at PR is because people have seen funding given, players purchased and good football, the belief that promotion will be achieved.
if it's not achieved, it won't be long before that new manager bounce has gone. It's just how football works and crowds will begin to drop. |
Comparing the current situation with the situation under Lambert is incredibly disingenuous.
You could argue that we have almost the exact opposite of the problems under Lambert.
With Lambert we were top, but playing pretty bloody terribly, yet somehow we were scraping out results. Unsurprisingly this caught up with us (despite the narrative that we were getting results when playing badly, so imagine what would happen when we 'clicked'. Alas, dear reader, we never 'clicked')
Now we are playing pretty bloody well, yet dropping points when we should be out of sight. Does this means that the opposite will happen? Of course not, but the comparison with Lambert is tenuous at best. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:28 - Feb 5 with 4265 views | SomethingBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:16 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry but we're about to be taken over by a club who you could say was more of a 'new club' than we were in the summer
KM's had 3 transfer windows at this new club, the squad has had 8-10 mill spent on it, paying out championship wages.
Lambert messed up when we were top, but at least his excuse can be that he wasn't well backed, the club was a shambles etc
KM doesn't have that problem.
only 4 of the players who started yesturday weren't here when KM came into the club, just 4. So this new club bullux is strange.
The reason the ground is full at PR is because people have seen funding given, players purchased and good football, the belief that promotion will be achieved.
if it's not achieved, it won't be long before that new manager bounce has gone. It's just how football works and crowds will begin to drop. |
That comment wasn't really the essence of my point tho. Indeed, we could look at Plymouth's team from two years ago and note that only Hardie, Mayor, Cooper and Ennis would be involved now. They've managed change very well. We can and ultimately should be doing far better than we have in recent weeks. But none of that is actually what I am saying. I fail to see how catastrophising is going to help anything. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:29 - Feb 5 with 4224 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:22 - Feb 5 by TheMoralMajority |
Comparing the current situation with the situation under Lambert is incredibly disingenuous.
You could argue that we have almost the exact opposite of the problems under Lambert.
With Lambert we were top, but playing pretty bloody terribly, yet somehow we were scraping out results. Unsurprisingly this caught up with us (despite the narrative that we were getting results when playing badly, so imagine what would happen when we 'clicked'. Alas, dear reader, we never 'clicked')
Now we are playing pretty bloody well, yet dropping points when we should be out of sight. Does this means that the opposite will happen? Of course not, but the comparison with Lambert is tenuous at best. |
"disingenuous"
Possibly. Lambert didn't have it as easy as KM has. So yes maybe not fair to compare lambert failure with KMs.
But both took a side top of the league and let it slip over Xmas. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:30 - Feb 5 with 4219 views | J2BLUE |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:16 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry but we're about to be taken over by a club who you could say was more of a 'new club' than we were in the summer
KM's had 3 transfer windows at this new club, the squad has had 8-10 mill spent on it, paying out championship wages.
Lambert messed up when we were top, but at least his excuse can be that he wasn't well backed, the club was a shambles etc
KM doesn't have that problem.
only 4 of the players who started yesturday weren't here when KM came into the club, just 4. So this new club bullux is strange.
The reason the ground is full at PR is because people have seen funding given, players purchased and good football, the belief that promotion will be achieved.
if it's not achieved, it won't be long before that new manager bounce has gone. It's just how football works and crowds will begin to drop. |
Think you have missed the point with the new club bit. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:31 - Feb 5 with 4222 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:28 - Feb 5 by SomethingBlue |
That comment wasn't really the essence of my point tho. Indeed, we could look at Plymouth's team from two years ago and note that only Hardie, Mayor, Cooper and Ennis would be involved now. They've managed change very well. We can and ultimately should be doing far better than we have in recent weeks. But none of that is actually what I am saying. I fail to see how catastrophising is going to help anything. |
"I fail to see how catastrophising is going to help anything."
Hello SomethingBlue. Allow me to introduce you to FrimleyBlue. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:32 - Feb 5 with 4193 views | jayessess |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:16 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry but we're about to be taken over by a club who you could say was more of a 'new club' than we were in the summer
KM's had 3 transfer windows at this new club, the squad has had 8-10 mill spent on it, paying out championship wages.
Lambert messed up when we were top, but at least his excuse can be that he wasn't well backed, the club was a shambles etc
KM doesn't have that problem.
only 4 of the players who started yesturday weren't here when KM came into the club, just 4. So this new club bullux is strange.
The reason the ground is full at PR is because people have seen funding given, players purchased and good football, the belief that promotion will be achieved.
if it's not achieved, it won't be long before that new manager bounce has gone. It's just how football works and crowds will begin to drop. |
I think everyone sees the dangers in our current situation.
But this thread is about the fanbase, isn't it? About whether we keep our nerve.
I don't see that we have a lot of choices here. We've 17 games left. This manager and these players are all we have for that 17 games. Either we can show a bit of trust in the process, give as much support as we can and just hope we get an upturn in performances or we can yell abuse and boo.
Which one is more likely to help is obvious. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:34 - Feb 5 with 4134 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:30 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
Think you have missed the point with the new club bit. |
Imo he's after a free hit. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:36 - Feb 5 with 4143 views | SomethingBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:34 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Imo he's after a free hit. |
If you're referring to me you really have no idea ... and clearly I should lower the reading age of my posts in future. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:36 - Feb 5 with 4113 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:32 - Feb 5 by jayessess |
I think everyone sees the dangers in our current situation.
But this thread is about the fanbase, isn't it? About whether we keep our nerve.
I don't see that we have a lot of choices here. We've 17 games left. This manager and these players are all we have for that 17 games. Either we can show a bit of trust in the process, give as much support as we can and just hope we get an upturn in performances or we can yell abuse and boo.
Which one is more likely to help is obvious. |
The diehards will. That's normal.
But the diehards can't finance the club on its own it needs regular football fans alongside it to fund the club.
There're the ones you lose of things don't go to plan. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:39 - Feb 5 with 4100 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:36 - Feb 5 by SomethingBlue |
If you're referring to me you really have no idea ... and clearly I should lower the reading age of my posts in future. |
No. I was referring to KM and his after game talk of new team, new club stuff.
It's a version of Pcs team gelling talk aimed at those above and the fans to remind them why they were failing. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:41 - Feb 5 with 4116 views | SomethingBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:39 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
No. I was referring to KM and his after game talk of new team, new club stuff.
It's a version of Pcs team gelling talk aimed at those above and the fans to remind them why they were failing. |
Fair play - but I see from KM perspective why he brings that up and it’s not totally unreasonable. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:44 - Feb 5 with 4092 views | Illinoisblue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:36 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
The diehards will. That's normal.
But the diehards can't finance the club on its own it needs regular football fans alongside it to fund the club.
There're the ones you lose of things don't go to plan. |
Which one are you? | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:47 - Feb 5 with 4042 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:44 - Feb 5 by Illinoisblue |
Which one are you? |
I fall into a middle category. I support the club just like I did when I had a ST for years. But I watch from afar. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:49 - Feb 5 with 4044 views | Herbivore |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:44 - Feb 5 by Illinoisblue |
Which one are you? |
The club will be devastated if Frimmers stops listening to the games on the radio I'm sure. |  |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:51 - Feb 5 with 3996 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:49 - Feb 5 by Herbivore |
The club will be devastated if Frimmers stops listening to the games on the radio I'm sure. |
Jokes on you. You can't get radio commentary outside Suffolk. Good try though | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:53 - Feb 5 with 3982 views | Slimitfc91 |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:51 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Jokes on you. You can't get radio commentary outside Suffolk. Good try though |
If you don’t like what’s going on at the club, don’t bother going to games …….. | | | |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:55 - Feb 5 with 3946 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:53 - Feb 5 by Slimitfc91 |
If you don’t like what’s going on at the club, don’t bother going to games …….. |
I like whats being done at the club.
Hopefully the football on the pitch matches the investment level and improvements that have been done. | |
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| Fanbase needs to hold its nerve here on 15:56 - Feb 5 with 3961 views | Chondzoresk |
If I knew how to upload the gif of people standing up applauding to the OP I would. Unfortunately, I’m not that tech savvy…..great post. |  | | |
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