| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... 14:21 - Feb 26 with 1755 views | tractorboy1978 |
If Knibbs thumping a perfect shot for Cambridge or two loopy, deflected efforts beating Walton at home to Fleetwood/Plymouth was 'unlucky', that Leko miss yesterday was certainly 'lucky'!
Such fine margins. If they score that it could well have gone onto be another frustrating day, but it ended up being a comfortable win. Hopefully yesterday proves to be a momentum shifter with Plymouth getting slapped as well. |  | | |  |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:25 - Feb 26 with 1700 views | jayessess |
Yeah, fair bit of good fortune there, although some credit to Woolfie for blocking some of the goal and giving him something to think about too |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:37 - Feb 26 with 1648 views | clive_baker |
I get the point but personally I tend to look at ‘luck’ based on the balance of a game rather than individual incidents. Plymouth were good for a point, albeit that equaliser was a touch fortunate they had a sitter at 0-0 that hit the bar. On balance they deserved something. We were dominant yesterday, I don’t think 3 points flattered us at all. |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:45 - Feb 26 with 1599 views | tractorboy1978 |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:37 - Feb 26 by clive_baker |
I get the point but personally I tend to look at ‘luck’ based on the balance of a game rather than individual incidents. Plymouth were good for a point, albeit that equaliser was a touch fortunate they had a sitter at 0-0 that hit the bar. On balance they deserved something. We were dominant yesterday, I don’t think 3 points flattered us at all. |
It didn't, no - we deserved to win. The first goal is key and that's what we've struggled to do recently away from home. For all our dominance, often games come down to one key moment either going for/against you. | | | |
| Amen on 14:46 - Feb 26 with 1600 views | unstableblue |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:37 - Feb 26 by clive_baker |
I get the point but personally I tend to look at ‘luck’ based on the balance of a game rather than individual incidents. Plymouth were good for a point, albeit that equaliser was a touch fortunate they had a sitter at 0-0 that hit the bar. On balance they deserved something. We were dominant yesterday, I don’t think 3 points flattered us at all. |
People really do need to watch the extended highlights on iPlayer next week.
As you state it will show the true picture of the game… which is that we battered for a long period. As the stats show.
MK had some good players, gave it their all, and some of their blocking was heroic.
But focussing on that goal mouth scramble… and suggesting we were lucky sums up some of the fan base
A fair or reflective result of yesterday was 1-3 |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:56 - Feb 26 with 1529 views | Ftnfwest |
I found myself at least commending their defenders for throwing themselves into a number of goal stopping blocks yesterday so it would be a bit churlish to say we didn’t and were ‘lucky’ |  | | |
| Amen on 14:57 - Feb 26 with 1523 views | Ryorry |
| Amen on 14:46 - Feb 26 by unstableblue |
People really do need to watch the extended highlights on iPlayer next week.
As you state it will show the true picture of the game… which is that we battered for a long period. As the stats show.
MK had some good players, gave it their all, and some of their blocking was heroic.
But focussing on that goal mouth scramble… and suggesting we were lucky sums up some of the fan base
A fair or reflective result of yesterday was 1-3 |
MKD were able to make threatening, attacking breaks through us to get into the final third far too easily though. The number of set pieces they earned in the final third was worrying, given that (according to iFollow comms) that was how they'd previously scored most of the few goals they had got. |  |
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| Amen on 14:57 - Feb 26 with 1520 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Amen on 14:46 - Feb 26 by unstableblue |
People really do need to watch the extended highlights on iPlayer next week.
As you state it will show the true picture of the game… which is that we battered for a long period. As the stats show.
MK had some good players, gave it their all, and some of their blocking was heroic.
But focussing on that goal mouth scramble… and suggesting we were lucky sums up some of the fan base
A fair or reflective result of yesterday was 1-3 |
I was at the game. I didn't think we were lucky to win - we deserved to and we should have won by more in the end. Not conceding from that goal mouth scramble was definitely fortunate though. If we'd gone 1-0 down it could well have been another away game leaving us frustrated. I am of course very happy that was not the case. | | | |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:58 - Feb 26 with 1519 views | jayessess |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:37 - Feb 26 by clive_baker |
I get the point but personally I tend to look at ‘luck’ based on the balance of a game rather than individual incidents. Plymouth were good for a point, albeit that equaliser was a touch fortunate they had a sitter at 0-0 that hit the bar. On balance they deserved something. We were dominant yesterday, I don’t think 3 points flattered us at all. |
Think you could argue that we managed the game against Plymouth very well after taking the lead and were rather unfortunate to concede like that from the only shooting opportunity we allowed in that 30 minutes. | |
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| Amen on 15:08 - Feb 26 with 1447 views | farkenhell |
| Amen on 14:57 - Feb 26 by Ryorry |
MKD were able to make threatening, attacking breaks through us to get into the final third far too easily though. The number of set pieces they earned in the final third was worrying, given that (according to iFollow comms) that was how they'd previously scored most of the few goals they had got. |
First half yes, although we tightened up considerably in the second half. | | | |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:20 - Feb 26 with 1388 views | textbackup |
In a playoff game against better opposition that’s us 1-0 down.
Poor from Clarke, even worse from Burns to not react and bust a gut to get back. |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:28 - Feb 26 with 1334 views | Pilgrimblue |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:20 - Feb 26 by textbackup |
In a playoff game against better opposition that’s us 1-0 down.
Poor from Clarke, even worse from Burns to not react and bust a gut to get back. |
I wasn’t there but maybe Burns needs benching and give Jackson a start. He was excellent in Cup so why not! |  | | |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:32 - Feb 26 with 1327 views | jayessess |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:20 - Feb 26 by textbackup |
In a playoff game against better opposition that’s us 1-0 down.
Poor from Clarke, even worse from Burns to not react and bust a gut to get back. |
Bit harsh?
We've given up one good attacking opportunity over the whole 90 minutes in an away game. Sure, if the opposition scores it you can't complain you're hard done by. But if they miss it and you go on to win and keep a clean sheet, it's hardly a cause for wailing and self-flagellation.
As for playoff rivals, the form team in the division has James Norwood up front, not like we've never seen him miss a sitter. | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:33 - Feb 26 with 1313 views | Illinoisblue |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:28 - Feb 26 by Pilgrimblue |
I wasn’t there but maybe Burns needs benching and give Jackson a start. He was excellent in Cup so why not! |
Burns was very poor yesterday. I’d give Edwards or Jackson a go. |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:33 - Feb 26 with 1310 views | textbackup |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:32 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Bit harsh?
We've given up one good attacking opportunity over the whole 90 minutes in an away game. Sure, if the opposition scores it you can't complain you're hard done by. But if they miss it and you go on to win and keep a clean sheet, it's hardly a cause for wailing and self-flagellation.
As for playoff rivals, the form team in the division has James Norwood up front, not like we've never seen him miss a sitter. |
You are right on many points, but do you think the management team will be happy about that particular passage of play? I would imagine they’ll watch that back and ensure that never happens again. | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:37 - Feb 26 with 1276 views | clive_baker |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:58 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Think you could argue that we managed the game against Plymouth very well after taking the lead and were rather unfortunate to concede like that from the only shooting opportunity we allowed in that 30 minutes. |
After taking the lead maybe, but over the 90 minutes they were every bit good for a point. As we were at their place. | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:41 - Feb 26 with 1251 views | SheffordBlue |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:20 - Feb 26 by textbackup |
In a playoff game against better opposition that’s us 1-0 down.
Poor from Clarke, even worse from Burns to not react and bust a gut to get back. |
Don't think Clarke did too much wrong in that move - he was driving forward (which seems to be one of the key reasons we've brought him in) but doesn't quite put the ball past the opposition player, he then holds in acres of space to see if Broadhead wins the ball back - if he does we're away with an excellent attacking opportunity.
At that point it was 2 v 2 with Morsy and Broadhead getting back more quickly than Burns/Clarke to provide the extra numbers. You could argue that neither Burns or Clarke track back quickly enough but they are initially covering the space left by Morsy and Broadhead who are getting back to the 6 yard box - if they all get back to the 6 yard box there's masses of space elsewhere. | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:52 - Feb 26 with 1218 views | clive_baker |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:32 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Bit harsh?
We've given up one good attacking opportunity over the whole 90 minutes in an away game. Sure, if the opposition scores it you can't complain you're hard done by. But if they miss it and you go on to win and keep a clean sheet, it's hardly a cause for wailing and self-flagellation.
As for playoff rivals, the form team in the division has James Norwood up front, not like we've never seen him miss a sitter. |
You have to remember the minimum expectation is to score 4 against whoever we’re playing and limit them to zero attempts at goal. Really we shouldn’t be letting opponents in our half, we’ve spent some money and it’s an abject failure if Walton ever has a save to make. | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:55 - Feb 26 with 1195 views | jayessess |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:33 - Feb 26 by textbackup |
You are right on many points, but do you think the management team will be happy about that particular passage of play? I would imagine they’ll watch that back and ensure that never happens again. |
Not happy, for sure. But tricky to pick out exactly what advice you want to give everyone involved I think?
Clarke's made a good interception and screwed up his first touch but "take a better first touch" isn't useful coaching advice (neither is "just boot it" when the rest of your play depends on you attempting to win the ball back and turn it into quality possession).
Burns' recovery run is neither here nor there really, Humphreys and Clarke having sold themselves, we're already in big big trouble. Putting pressure on the ball and hoping to cut out the pass is probably the least bad of his options and once the pass is played he's basically out of the game. Again, not sure what advice helps him there?
The only bit that looks like tactically something you might revise is Humphreys decisions to (a) press the ball on the halfway line and (b) dive in when Clarke loses the ball (on both occasions he probably needs to make a more conservative decision). [Post edited 26 Feb 2023 15:56]
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 17:13 - Feb 26 with 1029 views | textbackup |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:52 - Feb 26 by clive_baker |
You have to remember the minimum expectation is to score 4 against whoever we’re playing and limit them to zero attempts at goal. Really we shouldn’t be letting opponents in our half, we’ve spent some money and it’s an abject failure if Walton ever has a save to make. |
Yes of course that’s what I said, or alluded too.
Fine margins could be the reason we finish 2nd or 3rd… | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 17:15 - Feb 26 with 1014 views | textbackup |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 15:55 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Not happy, for sure. But tricky to pick out exactly what advice you want to give everyone involved I think?
Clarke's made a good interception and screwed up his first touch but "take a better first touch" isn't useful coaching advice (neither is "just boot it" when the rest of your play depends on you attempting to win the ball back and turn it into quality possession).
Burns' recovery run is neither here nor there really, Humphreys and Clarke having sold themselves, we're already in big big trouble. Putting pressure on the ball and hoping to cut out the pass is probably the least bad of his options and once the pass is played he's basically out of the game. Again, not sure what advice helps him there?
The only bit that looks like tactically something you might revise is Humphreys decisions to (a) press the ball on the halfway line and (b) dive in when Clarke loses the ball (on both occasions he probably needs to make a more conservative decision). [Post edited 26 Feb 2023 15:56]
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Yeah sorry, I actually got in a muddle as to why Clarke was where he was. Thinking of a different situation completely! | |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 19:41 - Feb 26 with 778 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:56 - Feb 26 by Ftnfwest |
I found myself at least commending their defenders for throwing themselves into a number of goal stopping blocks yesterday so it would be a bit churlish to say we didn’t and were ‘lucky’ |
They were certainly throwing their bodies on the line, as we say, weren’t they. At least two of those blocks stopped likely goals, maybe three. |  |
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| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 20:16 - Feb 26 with 708 views | Dyland |
| I think we got back a bit of 'luck' yesterday... on 14:58 - Feb 26 by jayessess |
Think you could argue that we managed the game against Plymouth very well after taking the lead and were rather unfortunate to concede like that from the only shooting opportunity we allowed in that 30 minutes. |
Their deflected equaliser was pretty spawny in itself, but didn't they miss an open goal five or ten minutes before? Point each didn't seem too off, likewise at their gaff. |  |
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