| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? 09:39 - Apr 19 with 1949 views | Dyland |
Can't remember many, but my memory is sieve like.
Very stressful first half last night, didn't really create any clear chances. Vale had the better opps, or so it seemed, notwithstanding our dominance in possession. Central midfield couldn't do much with the ball, and no 10s crowded out of it. When Chappers did have some time he rushed it innit.
Second half I felt calmer.. whilst Chappers was still misfiring (by his own standards), Morsy and Luongo got a handle on it and I liked how calm we remained. It had echoes of a game at PR against Charlton when we kept doing what we do and eventually scored two late on, 2000/01 season maybe. This time we were no doubt helped by equalising fairly soon after conceding.
Well... I say I felt 'calmer'... but not during the penalty. And this is what wins games at this stage of the season. Nerves of steel. And big game players. Absolutely cracking result and couldn't care less if it was attrition vs purist football. This is what it's all about innit? Fair play to Port Vale, thought they defended magnificently and got tactics spot on, especially first half.
Talking of nerves, we don't half feel it in the stands. Man it shows how far the team have come to not let the fan nerves affect them. Maybe all grounds are the same but whatever, this is not a diss at our fanbase. Hopefully as a crowd we can get used to overcoming adversity on the pitch, even late on, so often that we will bounce and chant all game long whatever the score or season situation.
Nerves of steel needed folks, innit :)
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:45 - Apr 19 with 1891 views | JackSted |
The only game off the top of my head was FGR away earlier in the season |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:46 - Apr 19 with 1888 views | belgablue |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:45 - Apr 19 by JackSted |
The only game off the top of my head was FGR away earlier in the season |
We went 2-0 up in that game and won 2-1.
Morecambe we went 1-0 down and won 2-1 |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:55 - Apr 19 with 1845 views | SaleAway |
The only game before last night that we'd won from going behind was Morecambe.
Similarly, the only game we've lost from in front is PLymouth.
We've come from behind to draw 5 times. ( Bolton, Portsmouth, Lincoln, Cambs, Weds)
We've drawn from in front 7 times....( Barnsley, Weds, Charlton, Chelt x2, fleetwood, plymouth)
Points won from losing positions: 11
Points dropped from winning positions: 17 |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:58 - Apr 19 with 1806 views | TractorCam |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:55 - Apr 19 by SaleAway |
The only game before last night that we'd won from going behind was Morecambe.
Similarly, the only game we've lost from in front is PLymouth.
We've come from behind to draw 5 times. ( Bolton, Portsmouth, Lincoln, Cambs, Weds)
We've drawn from in front 7 times....( Barnsley, Weds, Charlton, Chelt x2, fleetwood, plymouth)
Points won from losing positions: 11
Points dropped from winning positions: 17 |
The last time we won a game when conceding was Peterborough in December, which was the last time we were properly able to sing "we are top of the league". |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:14 - Apr 19 with 1687 views | KidKlugs |
Imagine being Broadhead! | | | |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:16 - Apr 19 with 1682 views | SitfcB |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 09:55 - Apr 19 by SaleAway |
The only game before last night that we'd won from going behind was Morecambe.
Similarly, the only game we've lost from in front is PLymouth.
We've come from behind to draw 5 times. ( Bolton, Portsmouth, Lincoln, Cambs, Weds)
We've drawn from in front 7 times....( Barnsley, Weds, Charlton, Chelt x2, fleetwood, plymouth)
Points won from losing positions: 11
Points dropped from winning positions: 17 |
Points dropped is sickening, most of them avoidable, we should already be Champions! |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:16 - Apr 19 with 1678 views | ITFC_Forever |
Not many times - when you keep so many clean sheets, it's hard to come from behind. (ahem) |  |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:21 - Apr 19 with 1651 views | TractorCam |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:16 - Apr 19 by SitfcB |
Points dropped is sickening, most of them avoidable, we should already be Champions! |
Said it at the time, but that Plymouth home game is going to be very annoying if we don't get top 2. | |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:28 - Apr 19 with 1633 views | surreyblue |
Last night was also the latest winning goal we've had this season - next best was Burns in the 3-2 win against Portsmouth. The only goal later to gain points was Chaplins goal in the 87th minute, also against Portsmouth (2-2).
In contrast we've conceded to lose points in the 80th minute plus on six occasions. | | | |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:40 - Apr 19 with 1577 views | Deano69 |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:21 - Apr 19 by TractorCam |
Said it at the time, but that Plymouth home game is going to be very annoying if we don't get top 2. |
In fairness there’s a few games in the same position to have dropped points due to ‘circumstances’. Charlton away, Wednesday away etc |  |
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| Arf, good point ba (n/t) on 10:58 - Apr 19 with 1511 views | Dyland |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:16 - Apr 19 by ITFC_Forever |
Not many times - when you keep so many clean sheets, it's hard to come from behind. (ahem) |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 11:04 - Apr 19 with 1494 views | Dyland |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:40 - Apr 19 by Deano69 |
In fairness there’s a few games in the same position to have dropped points due to ‘circumstances’. Charlton away, Wednesday away etc |
Think he means what in hindsight were six pointers, so Wednesday and Argyle more relevant than Charlton. Though know what ya mean, that was just criminally ridiculous chucking away two points.
Sure Owls and Tykes will point to similar fine margins going against them. Having not watched any of their games except against Town I wonder if Pilgrims have been on the wrong end of as any as us, what with their remarkable durability. I guess we can call it a bit spawny, deflected goals and such, but you make your own luck over the season and it probably evens out. Fair play to them innit, they're still doing the business. I was hoping for a Rovers equaliser and would have taken that if offered alongside Argyle's late winner. I really couldn't care less who finishes where, only that we go up (and preferably auto).
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 11:04 - Apr 19 with 1495 views | clive_baker |
Thought half time came at the right time for us yesterday. Not least for the fans, digest that goal, have a piss, and I thought the noise 2nd half was excellent, right from the off. 1st have you could feel the tension in the ground. But we got that equaliser at a great time, against a tiring opponent and with plenty left on the clock to find the winner.
Wasn't pretty, as you say fair play to PV they have every right to set up how they want and try and get a result, that's their prerogative and it nearly worked. Not that they would ever take a defeat, but I imagine it was a heartening performance for them and the new manager and GD might play a factor down the bottom too, and theirs has remained fairly in tact. They'll be very unlucky to go down from here, the games are running out for those below them. |  |
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| Where do you sit Bakers? on 11:07 - Apr 19 with 1476 views | Dyland |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 11:04 - Apr 19 by clive_baker |
Thought half time came at the right time for us yesterday. Not least for the fans, digest that goal, have a piss, and I thought the noise 2nd half was excellent, right from the off. 1st have you could feel the tension in the ground. But we got that equaliser at a great time, against a tiring opponent and with plenty left on the clock to find the winner.
Wasn't pretty, as you say fair play to PV they have every right to set up how they want and try and get a result, that's their prerogative and it nearly worked. Not that they would ever take a defeat, but I imagine it was a heartening performance for them and the new manager and GD might play a factor down the bottom too, and theirs has remained fairly in tact. They'll be very unlucky to go down from here, the games are running out for those below them. |
I'm upper north but couldn't make it last night. On iFollow the atmosphere sounded nervy more often than not.
Tbh I don't get it sometimes when posters remark on a remarkable atmosphere. Just not hearing the same thing. Plenty of times this season and last it's been cracking from where I'm sat though, and as I say, these observations about atmosphere at PR are not meant as a dig. | |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 11:19 - Apr 19 with 1429 views | Illinoisblue |
Per EADT, in 42 league games we’ve been behind for a total of just 221 minutes. Insane stat. |  |
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| That and Forevers' post would explain it on 11:52 - Apr 19 with 1330 views | Dyland |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 11:19 - Apr 19 by Illinoisblue |
Per EADT, in 42 league games we’ve been behind for a total of just 221 minutes. Insane stat. |
:)
Though last night showed we can if necessary. Loved how patient and calm the players were.
Different kettle of fish if we go behind to a team like Posh, especially if they have their tails up. Let's see. Already excited for Saturday. Fooootball!
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| Where do you sit Bakers? on 12:58 - Apr 19 with 1246 views | SomethingBlue |
| Where do you sit Bakers? on 11:07 - Apr 19 by Dyland |
I'm upper north but couldn't make it last night. On iFollow the atmosphere sounded nervy more often than not.
Tbh I don't get it sometimes when posters remark on a remarkable atmosphere. Just not hearing the same thing. Plenty of times this season and last it's been cracking from where I'm sat though, and as I say, these observations about atmosphere at PR are not meant as a dig. |
Very tense in there yesterday. I remember feeling it in the air from about 15 min onwards, when it was clear to everyone that we weren't going to steamroller them early. Crowd did well early in second half to be fair, and then quite a lot of that tension returned, from where I was in north lower anyway. Tbh I wouldn't have expected it any other way. | |
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| Where do you sit Bakers? on 13:44 - Apr 19 with 1157 views | JakeITFC |
| Where do you sit Bakers? on 12:58 - Apr 19 by SomethingBlue |
Very tense in there yesterday. I remember feeling it in the air from about 15 min onwards, when it was clear to everyone that we weren't going to steamroller them early. Crowd did well early in second half to be fair, and then quite a lot of that tension returned, from where I was in north lower anyway. Tbh I wouldn't have expected it any other way. |
Tangential point, but this is where the time wasting stuff really annoys - even if a ref was brilliant at totting them up and played an additional 10+ minutes at the end of games it is so easy now for a team to just sit a player down for a few minutes for treatment and take all of the sting out of a team and an atmosphere when they are up against it. |  | | |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 14:19 - Apr 19 with 1102 views | tractordownsouth |
| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 10:21 - Apr 19 by TractorCam |
Said it at the time, but that Plymouth home game is going to be very annoying if we don't get top 2. |
I'd be more annoyed about the away game at Hillsborough. Mumba's goal was slightly fortunate but at least it was legitimate, whereas that Smith equaliser would've been correctly disallowed if not for the thugs in the crowd chucking coins. |  |
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| Agree with that on 15:29 - Apr 19 with 1019 views | Dyland |
| Where do you sit Bakers? on 13:44 - Apr 19 by JakeITFC |
Tangential point, but this is where the time wasting stuff really annoys - even if a ref was brilliant at totting them up and played an additional 10+ minutes at the end of games it is so easy now for a team to just sit a player down for a few minutes for treatment and take all of the sting out of a team and an atmosphere when they are up against it. |
Unless a player is rolling around in obvious agony or it's a possible head injury, play on until there's a break in play. Or play on anyway, and allow one medical staff on to assess the 'injured' player whist play goes on, unless they are in the six yard box obvs. | |
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| How many times have we come from behind to win this season? on 16:29 - Apr 19 with 959 views | Kropotkin123 |
Sorry, this question allows be to be a nerd. The short answer 2. The long, and more interesting answer is...
constraints: League only. Opposition scores first (not all instances of going behind)
We've gone behind first on 10 occasions. Our record in these games is W2, D5, L3. PTS: 11.
On the face of it a tally of 11 points from 10 games is bad. However it is actually the third best average at 1.1 PPG. No prizes for guess Plymouth are top with an average of 1.5 PPG. The surprise between us is Derby at 1.25 PPG.
PPG only tells one story though. We've only gone behind first in 10 games. Plymouth have gone behind first in 16 games. Meaning to get a 1.5 PPG they've lost 6!
Going behind first 10 times is the fewest in the league. It is closely followed by Sheff Wed on 11 and Barnsley on 12. Sheff Wed have also only won twice, but they have lost 6 times, giving them a PPG of 0.82. Barnsley haven't won after conceding first. They average 0.17 PPG after conceding first. Only Forest Green have performed worse.
Scoring first is a huge advantage. We, one of the four standout teams in the league, have only won 20% of the time from this position. And that is a top three performing stat.
I think the stats really demonstrate why a good start is so important, and puts into perspective our performances when going behind. [Post edited 19 Apr 2023 16:32]
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