| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) 09:37 - Jun 14 with 3728 views | TalkingBlues |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:47 - Jun 14 with 2742 views | StokieBlue |
Luongo by TalkingBlues 19 Apr 2023 13:42I'm sensing that there's quite a few people under the impression that the reason he hasn't signed a permanent deal, is of his own choice. Sorry to break it to you, but that couldn't be further from the truth, the guy had only played 40 something games in 3 seasons prior to joining us and was released by Middlesborough as he couldn't get anywhere near the side, having trained and not been offered any terms at other clubs in the Championship, it would have been mental to offer him anything more than we did. He is getting on now (in football terms) and simply isn't mobile enough for our style of play in the Championship, where the quality and speed/fitness of player is higher than league 1, this is typified by the sort of signings we make under McK. He simply isn't mobile enough to hack it at Championship level any more, certainly not without getting injured frequently and looking miles off the pace. He and Morsy had rings run round them last night by Port Vale in the midfield in that first half, through nothing more than the oppo having faster players.
He's been brilliant for us since he came in, but make no mistake, if Evans/Camara etc were fit, he'd be nowehere near the squad even now in League 1 for us, let alone the starting XI, or match day squad in the Championship. I don't think he'll be offered terms if we get promoted, possibly might get terms if we don't, but we'll be back in for Taylor and A.N. Other for the CM role regardless, so the outlook isn't great for him either way.
That aside, he still has a massive role to play for us in the next 4 games and he is absolutely critical to our midfield currently with all the injuries we have, I hope he finds himself part of a promotion achieving side this season.
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:51 - Jun 14 with 2685 views | Herbivore |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:47 - Jun 14 by StokieBlue |
Luongo by TalkingBlues 19 Apr 2023 13:42I'm sensing that there's quite a few people under the impression that the reason he hasn't signed a permanent deal, is of his own choice. Sorry to break it to you, but that couldn't be further from the truth, the guy had only played 40 something games in 3 seasons prior to joining us and was released by Middlesborough as he couldn't get anywhere near the side, having trained and not been offered any terms at other clubs in the Championship, it would have been mental to offer him anything more than we did. He is getting on now (in football terms) and simply isn't mobile enough for our style of play in the Championship, where the quality and speed/fitness of player is higher than league 1, this is typified by the sort of signings we make under McK. He simply isn't mobile enough to hack it at Championship level any more, certainly not without getting injured frequently and looking miles off the pace. He and Morsy had rings run round them last night by Port Vale in the midfield in that first half, through nothing more than the oppo having faster players.
He's been brilliant for us since he came in, but make no mistake, if Evans/Camara etc were fit, he'd be nowehere near the squad even now in League 1 for us, let alone the starting XI, or match day squad in the Championship. I don't think he'll be offered terms if we get promoted, possibly might get terms if we don't, but we'll be back in for Taylor and A.N. Other for the CM role regardless, so the outlook isn't great for him either way.
That aside, he still has a massive role to play for us in the next 4 games and he is absolutely critical to our midfield currently with all the injuries we have, I hope he finds himself part of a promotion achieving side this season.
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 with 2668 views | TalkingBlues |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:47 - Jun 14 by StokieBlue |
Luongo by TalkingBlues 19 Apr 2023 13:42I'm sensing that there's quite a few people under the impression that the reason he hasn't signed a permanent deal, is of his own choice. Sorry to break it to you, but that couldn't be further from the truth, the guy had only played 40 something games in 3 seasons prior to joining us and was released by Middlesborough as he couldn't get anywhere near the side, having trained and not been offered any terms at other clubs in the Championship, it would have been mental to offer him anything more than we did. He is getting on now (in football terms) and simply isn't mobile enough for our style of play in the Championship, where the quality and speed/fitness of player is higher than league 1, this is typified by the sort of signings we make under McK. He simply isn't mobile enough to hack it at Championship level any more, certainly not without getting injured frequently and looking miles off the pace. He and Morsy had rings run round them last night by Port Vale in the midfield in that first half, through nothing more than the oppo having faster players.
He's been brilliant for us since he came in, but make no mistake, if Evans/Camara etc were fit, he'd be nowehere near the squad even now in League 1 for us, let alone the starting XI, or match day squad in the Championship. I don't think he'll be offered terms if we get promoted, possibly might get terms if we don't, but we'll be back in for Taylor and A.N. Other for the CM role regardless, so the outlook isn't great for him either way.
That aside, he still has a massive role to play for us in the next 4 games and he is absolutely critical to our midfield currently with all the injuries we have, I hope he finds himself part of a promotion achieving side this season.
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Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:59 - Jun 14 with 2584 views | Bluesky |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
Oh I think he will. |  | | |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:00 - Jun 14 with 2549 views | BiGDonnie |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
You have less than no clue. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:09 - Jun 14 with 2456 views | Herbivore |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
Mate, when in a hole, it's best to stop digging. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:10 - Jun 14 with 2441 views | NthQldITFC |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
That's a very poor effort from you, Tuberculosis.
Edit: Apologies, my auto-correct seems to think that you are some kind of disease. Some of your posts certainly do take my breath away. [Post edited 14 Jun 2023 10:12]
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:12 - Jun 14 with 2412 views | BlueBadger |
Apparently, your lot are keen on Ryan Fraser.
Hope this helps. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:12 - Jun 14 with 2401 views | BlueBadger |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:47 - Jun 14 by StokieBlue |
Luongo by TalkingBlues 19 Apr 2023 13:42I'm sensing that there's quite a few people under the impression that the reason he hasn't signed a permanent deal, is of his own choice. Sorry to break it to you, but that couldn't be further from the truth, the guy had only played 40 something games in 3 seasons prior to joining us and was released by Middlesborough as he couldn't get anywhere near the side, having trained and not been offered any terms at other clubs in the Championship, it would have been mental to offer him anything more than we did. He is getting on now (in football terms) and simply isn't mobile enough for our style of play in the Championship, where the quality and speed/fitness of player is higher than league 1, this is typified by the sort of signings we make under McK. He simply isn't mobile enough to hack it at Championship level any more, certainly not without getting injured frequently and looking miles off the pace. He and Morsy had rings run round them last night by Port Vale in the midfield in that first half, through nothing more than the oppo having faster players.
He's been brilliant for us since he came in, but make no mistake, if Evans/Camara etc were fit, he'd be nowehere near the squad even now in League 1 for us, let alone the starting XI, or match day squad in the Championship. I don't think he'll be offered terms if we get promoted, possibly might get terms if we don't, but we'll be back in for Taylor and A.N. Other for the CM role regardless, so the outlook isn't great for him either way.
That aside, he still has a massive role to play for us in the next 4 games and he is absolutely critical to our midfield currently with all the injuries we have, I hope he finds himself part of a promotion achieving side this season.
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:16 - Jun 14 with 2355 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:47 - Jun 14 by StokieBlue |
Luongo by TalkingBlues 19 Apr 2023 13:42I'm sensing that there's quite a few people under the impression that the reason he hasn't signed a permanent deal, is of his own choice. Sorry to break it to you, but that couldn't be further from the truth, the guy had only played 40 something games in 3 seasons prior to joining us and was released by Middlesborough as he couldn't get anywhere near the side, having trained and not been offered any terms at other clubs in the Championship, it would have been mental to offer him anything more than we did. He is getting on now (in football terms) and simply isn't mobile enough for our style of play in the Championship, where the quality and speed/fitness of player is higher than league 1, this is typified by the sort of signings we make under McK. He simply isn't mobile enough to hack it at Championship level any more, certainly not without getting injured frequently and looking miles off the pace. He and Morsy had rings run round them last night by Port Vale in the midfield in that first half, through nothing more than the oppo having faster players.
He's been brilliant for us since he came in, but make no mistake, if Evans/Camara etc were fit, he'd be nowehere near the squad even now in League 1 for us, let alone the starting XI, or match day squad in the Championship. I don't think he'll be offered terms if we get promoted, possibly might get terms if we don't, but we'll be back in for Taylor and A.N. Other for the CM role regardless, so the outlook isn't great for him either way.
That aside, he still has a massive role to play for us in the next 4 games and he is absolutely critical to our midfield currently with all the injuries we have, I hope he finds himself part of a promotion achieving side this season.
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I think TalkingNonsense is quite a good gauge of what's going to happen, just not in the way he thinks. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:16 - Jun 14 with 2361 views | Guthrum |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
The man with nearly 200 Championship appearances under his belt is not going to be up to scratch for that division?
He's also only 30 years old, younger than Daryl Murphy in his 27-goal season, younger than David McGoldrick when he was playing in the Prem. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:16 - Jun 14 with 2348 views | Stewart27 |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 09:54 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Hence the reason he's been given a one year "thank you for last season" contract, we all know what's happening and he deserves it for his sterling efforts when we needed him most, but he'll not feature for us this season. |
Is there something wrong with you?
What on earth is a thank you for last season contract?
Are you trying to be an idiot or a little edgy for mass down votes? | | | |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:18 - Jun 14 with 2331 views | TalkingBlues |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:09 - Jun 14 by Herbivore |
Mate, when in a hole, it's best to stop digging. |
Who’s in a hole? You’re all looking very desperate to find something, but you know I’m right, the one year is a thank you gesture, nothing more.
Out of interest, if one were in a hole, surely they’re digging it for a reason and to stop digging would be the opposite of what they should do, you never see the hole picture. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:26 - Jun 14 with 2228 views | N2_Blue |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:18 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Who’s in a hole? You’re all looking very desperate to find something, but you know I’m right, the one year is a thank you gesture, nothing more.
Out of interest, if one were in a hole, surely they’re digging it for a reason and to stop digging would be the opposite of what they should do, you never see the hole picture. |
You really are very strange.
you'll be talking to yourself soon, you talk such a huge amount of dribble that any one with any sense will have you on ignore. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:44 - Jun 14 with 2123 views | IpswichRising |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:18 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Who’s in a hole? You’re all looking very desperate to find something, but you know I’m right, the one year is a thank you gesture, nothing more.
Out of interest, if one were in a hole, surely they’re digging it for a reason and to stop digging would be the opposite of what they should do, you never see the hole picture. |
I am sure that GC20 are not in the business of giving money away to anyone just as a thank you, if they were, why not say thank you to all the loyal fans and give them a free season ticket, Mass is obviously happy with a years contract otherwise he would not have signed it. | | | |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:53 - Jun 14 with 2065 views | itfcjoe |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:18 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Who’s in a hole? You’re all looking very desperate to find something, but you know I’m right, the one year is a thank you gesture, nothing more.
Out of interest, if one were in a hole, surely they’re digging it for a reason and to stop digging would be the opposite of what they should do, you never see the hole picture. |
You can surely see from the evidence of last season that Luongo is streets ahead of Ball and Evans; and likely Camara too.
I got point you made badly previously that signing another back up midfielder longer term may not be best option, but Luongo showed with his performance levels that you can't let him out the door and he is the one who needs to be retained, not any of the others |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:53 - Jun 14 with 2056 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:18 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
Who’s in a hole? You’re all looking very desperate to find something, but you know I’m right, the one year is a thank you gesture, nothing more.
Out of interest, if one were in a hole, surely they’re digging it for a reason and to stop digging would be the opposite of what they should do, you never see the hole picture. |
The "thank you gesture" was his wages, that he got paid for playing.
The new contract is because we want him to play some more.
The club aren't in the business of giving away free money. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:58 - Jun 14 with 2029 views | homer_123 |
Well, rightly the club have been working on ensuring we are getting our house in order with existing players (Morsy and Chaplin) and then a quick win in Luongo.
I wouldn't be surprised to see KM sign a new contract and then we'll see some more activity in the next week or so.
That said, I suspect we will see a few leave before some come in. |  |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:59 - Jun 14 with 2023 views | TalkingBlues |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:16 - Jun 14 by Stewart27 |
Is there something wrong with you?
What on earth is a thank you for last season contract?
Are you trying to be an idiot or a little edgy for mass down votes? |
I don’t know what the struggle with this concept is. Most people claim to understand signing Richard Keogh to play an amount of games you can count on one hand, by having his “influence and experience” around the team, same as offering Aluko a new contract, is he going to be a regular first XI player? Why then, is it difficult to appreciate that the club might feel that Mass hasn’t been sufficiently rewarded for his invaluable efforts getting us promoted by the very short contract he had with us and feel that he deserves a bit more from the club? No doubt he is a useful squad member, but he’s not in line for a starting role, or probably even the bench most weeks, when all the midfield are fit and available and we’ve most likely signed another CM during the window. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 11:00 - Jun 14 with 2013 views | homer_123 |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:09 - Jun 14 by Herbivore |
Mate, when in a hole, it's best to stop digging. |
Dunno, gotta get to at least 6 feet..... | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 11:09 - Jun 14 with 1958 views | TalkingBlues |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 10:53 - Jun 14 by itfcjoe |
You can surely see from the evidence of last season that Luongo is streets ahead of Ball and Evans; and likely Camara too.
I got point you made badly previously that signing another back up midfielder longer term may not be best option, but Luongo showed with his performance levels that you can't let him out the door and he is the one who needs to be retained, not any of the others |
He was absolutely exceptional for us, we simply wouldn’t have had the run of wins without him, but I just don’t see him having anywhere near that sort of impact in the Championship and even the gaffer wants new CM’s, so he clearly has a vision of something different to Massimo in there. I can’t comment on the other midfielders, be interesting to see which of them return injury free and what McK decides to do with them, there’s a lot of them.
I don’t think Mass received the recompense deserved via the short term contract he had with us and knowing what I’ve seen of our manager and Ashton etc, I think they will have wanted to reward him and I believe that’s pretty much reflected by the one year offer, I am certain that Mass is not seen as a first XI starter, possibly not even in a match day squad if the other midfielders (and any new CM’s) are fit and available, but I’m glad he’s been offered a wage, it’s the right thing to do by the club, but not from a playing perspective, it’s deeper IMO. | |
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| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 11:14 - Jun 14 with 1936 views | IpswichRising |
| WHO HAVE WE SIGNED????????????? (n/t) on 11:09 - Jun 14 by TalkingBlues |
He was absolutely exceptional for us, we simply wouldn’t have had the run of wins without him, but I just don’t see him having anywhere near that sort of impact in the Championship and even the gaffer wants new CM’s, so he clearly has a vision of something different to Massimo in there. I can’t comment on the other midfielders, be interesting to see which of them return injury free and what McK decides to do with them, there’s a lot of them.
I don’t think Mass received the recompense deserved via the short term contract he had with us and knowing what I’ve seen of our manager and Ashton etc, I think they will have wanted to reward him and I believe that’s pretty much reflected by the one year offer, I am certain that Mass is not seen as a first XI starter, possibly not even in a match day squad if the other midfielders (and any new CM’s) are fit and available, but I’m glad he’s been offered a wage, it’s the right thing to do by the club, but not from a playing perspective, it’s deeper IMO. |
Surely there would have been a promotion bonus written into his contract to reward him | | | |
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