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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. 13:48 - Aug 18 with 4161 viewsBlueBadger

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66180606

Hospital chiefs spent months ignoring senior concerns. Sentencing on Monday.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:03 - Aug 18 with 3243 viewsSWBlue22

Surely a whole life sentence.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:04 - Aug 18 with 3239 viewsBlueBadger

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:03 - Aug 18 by SWBlue22

Surely a whole life sentence.


I'd imagine so.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:21 - Aug 18 with 3209 viewsIllinoisblue

May she rot in hell. From reading the in depth report on the BBC website, it sounds like some hospital managers should also be in prison.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:30 - Aug 18 with 3146 viewsfactual_blue

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:21 - Aug 18 by Illinoisblue

May she rot in hell. From reading the in depth report on the BBC website, it sounds like some hospital managers should also be in prison.


Will our moral guardians be demanding that other criminals beat her to death?

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:41 - Aug 18 with 3102 viewsBlueBadger

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:30 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

Will our moral guardians be demanding that other criminals beat her to death?


Only if said criminals are BRITISH ones.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:50 - Aug 18 with 3067 viewsReus30

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:30 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

Will our moral guardians be demanding that other criminals beat her to death?


Christ don't summon them....

I have deliberately stayed away from the trial as I can't even bring myself to read it. However, I read the released texts today and the parent's of the twins and I really wish I didn't.

She won't ever be free.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:57 - Aug 18 with 3053 viewsWarkystache

She'll be sent to Broadmoor or Rampton - there's surely some serious mental illness involved there. Reminds me of Beverley Allitt in the late 80's

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:09 - Aug 18 with 2985 viewsBlueBadger

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:57 - Aug 18 by Warkystache

She'll be sent to Broadmoor or Rampton - there's surely some serious mental illness involved there. Reminds me of Beverley Allitt in the late 80's


I wouldn't be surprised if this brings about changes in drug administration and checking practice, much as happened in the wake of Shipman or Allitt

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:36 - Aug 18 with 2904 viewsHARRY10

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:09 - Aug 18 by BlueBadger

I wouldn't be surprised if this brings about changes in drug administration and checking practice, much as happened in the wake of Shipman or Allitt


A desperately sad case, made worse by the knowledge that the thought will stay with the parents '-could something not have been done earlier' ?

That will undoubtedly come out in the inquiry that follows.

It's difficult in medical cases where so much trust is put on the staff involved. Clearly this woman has 'problems' it is not the behaviour of a rational person, never mind a woman. It is hard to know whether any treatment will ever work, and she will need to be detained for the rest of her life. She clearly has not accepted responsibility for her actions. Why put the parents through a long trial where it was obvious she was responsible.

However what is not needed from the usual sources is silly comments, seeking to outdo others in moral outrage. It does nothing to help staff working in this and other care facilities, nor help the grieving parents.

As said, a very, very sad case. I have to agree with someone above. I found much of the revelations harrowing and distressing. I cannot begin to imagine then what the parents have been going through. These sort of deaths never leave you (parents), however much they may appear to diminish with time.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:37 - Aug 18 with 2902 viewsReus30

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:50 - Aug 18 by Reus30

Christ don't summon them....

I have deliberately stayed away from the trial as I can't even bring myself to read it. However, I read the released texts today and the parent's of the twins and I really wish I didn't.

She won't ever be free.


FFS, I just summoned them in my own workplace. People wanting to administer self justice and mentioning 'the yanks do justice right'....

Need to keep my head down, I am one step away from hearing talk about transgender rights and brexit.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:52 - Aug 18 with 2855 viewsfactual_blue

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 14:41 - Aug 18 by BlueBadger

Only if said criminals are BRITISH ones.


Not any of the millions of Albanian criminals who illegally land from their luxury yachts every day?

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 16:06 - Aug 18 with 2814 viewsSteve_M

It really is grim.


https://www.hsj.co.uk/countess-of-chester-hospital-nhs-foundation-trust/revealed

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 16:58 - Aug 18 with 2671 viewsfactual_blue

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:09 - Aug 18 by BlueBadger

I wouldn't be surprised if this brings about changes in drug administration and checking practice, much as happened in the wake of Shipman or Allitt


Not long after the Shipman case, I was talking to a chap who'd been involved in NHS auditing. They'd been sent to the NHS area in which Shipman worked as there were concerns about prescription practices in the area.

Shipman wasn't who they were concerned about....

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This is all a bit.... on 17:21 - Aug 18 with 2624 viewsBloots

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:52 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

Not any of the millions of Albanian criminals who illegally land from their luxury yachts every day?


....distasteful isn't it?

But I expect you two will probably try and justify it.

"I thought all you lads loved a bit of banta!?"

Maybe just have a day off, or even just a thread off. Think about it.

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This is all a bit.... on 17:40 - Aug 18 with 2581 viewsfactual_blue

This is all a bit.... on 17:21 - Aug 18 by Bloots

....distasteful isn't it?

But I expect you two will probably try and justify it.

"I thought all you lads loved a bit of banta!?"

Maybe just have a day off, or even just a thread off. Think about it.


Is it more or less distasteful than rampant ageism? You know, like asking if a verse in the Bible is the one that refers to a fellow poster?

And interesting you see the need to defend racism and vigilantism.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 17:42 - Aug 18 with 2568 viewsthe_toff

One of those cases that’s so shocking and upsetting that I’ve actively avoided reading about it.
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Much more distasteful than that.... on 17:42 - Aug 18 with 2560 viewsBloots

This is all a bit.... on 17:40 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

Is it more or less distasteful than rampant ageism? You know, like asking if a verse in the Bible is the one that refers to a fellow poster?

And interesting you see the need to defend racism and vigilantism.


....quite obviously.

Show me where I've defended racism and vigilantism?

I'll wait.....

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Much more distasteful than that.... on 18:00 - Aug 18 with 2483 viewsfactual_blue

Much more distasteful than that.... on 17:42 - Aug 18 by Bloots

....quite obviously.

Show me where I've defended racism and vigilantism?

I'll wait.....


You wait.

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Result!! Get in! (n/t) on 18:01 - Aug 18 with 2474 viewsBloots

Much more distasteful than that.... on 18:00 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

You wait.

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:15 - Aug 18 with 2433 viewsgtsb1966

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 15:52 - Aug 18 by factual_blue

Not any of the millions of Albanian criminals who illegally land from their luxury yachts every day?


you and Badger need to have a word with yourselves .
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:19 - Aug 18 with 2425 viewsMJallday

She lived (and Her parents currently live) just over a mile
From me. As you can expect the place is buzzing with paps

Not the sort of breaking hereford news I like

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:23 - Aug 18 with 2397 viewsfactual_blue

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:15 - Aug 18 by gtsb1966

you and Badger need to have a word with yourselves .
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It's not even hundreds

The man’s not fit to be in parliament by factual_blue 13 Aug 2023 22:22
You're not actually correct I'm afraid.

The highest number of Albanian arrivals by small boat arrivals in the UK was 9,037 in the third quarter of 2022. In Q1 and Q2 of the same year Albanians numbered 235 and 1,930 respectively. In Q4 the number dropped by to 1,099, and by Q1 of 2023 it was virtually nil. Since 2018 13,227 have arrived in the UK, 14.9% of all arrivals. Almost 50% of all arrivals come from Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Albanians only have a 34% chance of being granted asylum, whereas Afghans, Iranians, Eritreans have a 99% chance of being granted asylum, and Iranians 78%

And research shows that those arriving by small boat know nothing of UK immigration policies - or indeed those of any other country. One of the key factors in their decision to come here is the pre-existing diaspora (in other words we have already established populations from those countries/regions, largely because of our imperial past).

Try this source

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/#:~:text=Nationals%20of%20five%20countries%20%E2%80%93%20Iran,between%202018%20and%20March%202023.

It's a research body at the University of Oxford



What do we need to have a word with ourselves about?

That we challenge nonsense?

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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:27 - Aug 18 with 2373 viewsTresBonne

There is no reason why a person like this should not face the death sentence.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:30 - Aug 18 with 2361 viewsBlueBadger

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:27 - Aug 18 by TresBonne

There is no reason why a person like this should not face the death sentence.


Sure there is. It's because we're not barbarians stooping to her level.
I'm entirely cool with her spending the rest of her life looking over her shoulder in perpetual fear on my ticket.
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Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:42 - Aug 18 with 2299 viewsMullet

Lucy Letby found guilty on 7 charges murder. on 18:27 - Aug 18 by TresBonne

There is no reason why a person like this should not face the death sentence.


Apart from it not being legal in this country.

Once you permit it for an offence like this, the only way is regression further and further down the sentencing guidelines. Then you open up the risk of killing the innocent - see the bloke who lost most his adulthood thanks to GMP recently.

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