| Handing in notice before finding another job 11:07 - Oct 17 with 4447 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
In what circumstances would/should you hand in your notice from one job before having found another job?
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:10 - Oct 17 with 4037 views | Blueschev |
How plentiful is the job market in your sector? It's always easier in my experience to find a job when you're currently employed. |  | | |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:12 - Oct 17 with 4013 views | heavyweight |
* When you have a savings buffer (at least 6 months worth)
* When you are very confident of getting another job
* When you fancy a bit of a break (and you can afford it)
* When you're so pissed off with your current job it's affecting your health |  | | |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:32 - Oct 17 with 3926 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:10 - Oct 17 by Blueschev |
How plentiful is the job market in your sector? It's always easier in my experience to find a job when you're currently employed. |
Also easier to negotiate a decent salary.
Worth also remembering if you are unemployed by choice no benefits. |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:33 - Oct 17 with 3915 views | MJallday |
when you arnt happy? |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:33 - Oct 17 with 3912 views | DanTheMan |
I usually wait for the contract before I hand in my notice, unless they are are other circumstances that would require me to hand in earlier. |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:35 - Oct 17 with 3892 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
When voluntary redundancy means you get a bigger payout than if you're later pushed anyway. |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:38 - Oct 17 with 3855 views | MJallday |
if a job is making you that unwell that you think "i dont want to be here" - thats the time to move on, whether you have another one lined up or not. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:44 - Oct 17 with 3821 views | DecageBruce |
I had to do exactly this this year.
Having been in a ‘secure’ job and progressed with a company for 15 years I was made redundant just after Christmas. I was fortunate to find another role during my notice period. However, the job, and more importantly my direct line manager was not for me. I didn’t enjoy the role (which was not what they had advertised and what my skill set/training is in) and after 8 weeks the unhappiness and stress was effecting my mental health.
It all came to a head when I was asked to do a piece of work for said manager with no real brief. I asked for clarification a few time but with no guidence or response. The paper was presented to them and signed off and then in turn (by them) presented to the board. During this presentation there were some questions and it became clear that the work I had done did not fit the brief they’d requested (but I did not see until during said presentation) at which point my manager (who was at director level) through me under the bus, slated the work and totally withdrew from any connection or sign off they’d completed.
I took a walk around the block and for my head and my kids sake resigned an hour later.
I was fortunate enough to have around 3 months cash in the bank but it was still a risk with mortgage and kids to pay for.
Again, I was fortunate enough to find another role which I am now in the 3rd week of but I will say the job market is tough. For my current role i had 3 interviews and then a presentation and Q+A with a panel. I know 3 of 9 colleagues that were made redundant at the same time as me that hve still not been able to secure a role.
My advise would always to be to try and secure a role before leaving but sometimes a current role is just to tough to stick with |  | | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:50 - Oct 17 with 3719 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:38 - Oct 17 by MJallday |
if a job is making you that unwell that you think "i dont want to be here" - thats the time to move on, whether you have another one lined up or not. |
Every day since I started almost six months ago. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:52 - Oct 17 with 3706 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:12 - Oct 17 by heavyweight |
* When you have a savings buffer (at least 6 months worth)
* When you are very confident of getting another job
* When you fancy a bit of a break (and you can afford it)
* When you're so pissed off with your current job it's affecting your health |
1) Probably 2-3 months without having to dip into 'savings'.
2) Depends on how willing I am to change sector altogether (potentially willing).
3) I guess see my other three answers.
4) A lot of tiredness, stress, anxiety and unhappiness which I'm conscious isn't good for my health. [Post edited 17 Oct 2024 11:56]
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:53 - Oct 17 with 3692 views | itfcjoe |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:12 - Oct 17 by heavyweight |
* When you have a savings buffer (at least 6 months worth)
* When you are very confident of getting another job
* When you fancy a bit of a break (and you can afford it)
* When you're so pissed off with your current job it's affecting your health |
* When being your current job is preventing you from finding a new one (i.e. interview availability) |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:08 - Oct 17 with 3626 views | Guthrum |
Once told an employer I was planning to leave before having a job to go to. Thought I was doing them a favour.
Turned into a disaster. They tried to force me out, verging upon constructive dismissal. Eventaually accepted two months salary in lieu of notice to leave when they wanted.
The person they'd lined up to replace me only stayed about six months. I didn't get the job I wanted and ended up going in a completely different direction.
Moral of the tale - be careful. |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:33 - Oct 17 with 3502 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:08 - Oct 17 by Guthrum |
Once told an employer I was planning to leave before having a job to go to. Thought I was doing them a favour.
Turned into a disaster. They tried to force me out, verging upon constructive dismissal. Eventaually accepted two months salary in lieu of notice to leave when they wanted.
The person they'd lined up to replace me only stayed about six months. I didn't get the job I wanted and ended up going in a completely different direction.
Moral of the tale - be careful. |
Thanks, Guthers. Things are slightly 'rocky' here too, but I don't think my line manager would resort to those sorts of measures. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:35 - Oct 17 with 3480 views | J2BLUE |
Done this twice.
Once it didn't really work and the other time I was basically headhunted within two hours of my notice going in.
If it's making you miserable and you can get out without messing up your life/finances then go for it.
If you go for it, have a look on beer money UK and make money UK subreddits. A lot of what is posted is rubbish to be avoided but there are 3-4 decent ways to keep a bit of money coming in. |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:36 - Oct 17 with 3463 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:10 - Oct 17 by Blueschev |
How plentiful is the job market in your sector? It's always easier in my experience to find a job when you're currently employed. |
Relatively decent with related opportunities often popping up. Does your second point become redundant if you can offer a really compelling reason for why you left the previous job? (Assuming you don't find one during your notice period). | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:36 - Oct 17 with 3455 views | Help |
How long is your notice period.
How quickly do you realistically think you can get another job.
Can you live without the income? If another job is not there in time
What will any potentially new employer think of your reason for looking for a new job when you talk to them in the interview about why you are leaving the current one |  |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:39 - Oct 17 with 3417 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:35 - Oct 17 by J2BLUE |
Done this twice.
Once it didn't really work and the other time I was basically headhunted within two hours of my notice going in.
If it's making you miserable and you can get out without messing up your life/finances then go for it.
If you go for it, have a look on beer money UK and make money UK subreddits. A lot of what is posted is rubbish to be avoided but there are 3-4 decent ways to keep a bit of money coming in. |
Cheers, J2. I'll check out those subreddits. I should add that I have been offered a job (one day a week) in the same sector so I am going through the onboarding process to keep it as an option, however obviously that's not enough long-term. It's still a handy option to avoid the real 'worst case scenario' in the short-term.
Edit: so technically I wouldn't be leaving before 'finding another job' as per my thread title but just not a full-time job. [Post edited 17 Oct 2024 12:42]
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:40 - Oct 17 with 3392 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:44 - Oct 17 by DecageBruce |
I had to do exactly this this year.
Having been in a ‘secure’ job and progressed with a company for 15 years I was made redundant just after Christmas. I was fortunate to find another role during my notice period. However, the job, and more importantly my direct line manager was not for me. I didn’t enjoy the role (which was not what they had advertised and what my skill set/training is in) and after 8 weeks the unhappiness and stress was effecting my mental health.
It all came to a head when I was asked to do a piece of work for said manager with no real brief. I asked for clarification a few time but with no guidence or response. The paper was presented to them and signed off and then in turn (by them) presented to the board. During this presentation there were some questions and it became clear that the work I had done did not fit the brief they’d requested (but I did not see until during said presentation) at which point my manager (who was at director level) through me under the bus, slated the work and totally withdrew from any connection or sign off they’d completed.
I took a walk around the block and for my head and my kids sake resigned an hour later.
I was fortunate enough to have around 3 months cash in the bank but it was still a risk with mortgage and kids to pay for.
Again, I was fortunate enough to find another role which I am now in the 3rd week of but I will say the job market is tough. For my current role i had 3 interviews and then a presentation and Q+A with a panel. I know 3 of 9 colleagues that were made redundant at the same time as me that hve still not been able to secure a role.
My advise would always to be to try and secure a role before leaving but sometimes a current role is just to tough to stick with |
Thanks. My management is also really 'not for me'. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:49 - Oct 17 with 3281 views | _clive_baker_ |
I've had to do it when I was on a 6 month notice as it was prohibitive to getting the jobs I was looking at.
Ultimately it comes down to money, ask yourself how long a runway you have once your notice period ends and how confident you are of finding other work and go from there.
EDIT: Not to put you off but I think the job market at the moment feels precarious, certainly in my sector and it's not helped with the budget around the corner and speculation around what that means to businesses. Anecdotally I've seen some really strong and well qualified candidates looking for work at levels that I perceive to be below their pay grade. Vacancies are down for the 26th consecutive month and a whopping 25% down YoY. Its often one of the first markers of economic contraction and personally I do feel like we're on a bit of a knife edge economically. [Post edited 17 Oct 2024 12:59]
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:54 - Oct 17 with 3209 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:49 - Oct 17 by _clive_baker_ |
I've had to do it when I was on a 6 month notice as it was prohibitive to getting the jobs I was looking at.
Ultimately it comes down to money, ask yourself how long a runway you have once your notice period ends and how confident you are of finding other work and go from there.
EDIT: Not to put you off but I think the job market at the moment feels precarious, certainly in my sector and it's not helped with the budget around the corner and speculation around what that means to businesses. Anecdotally I've seen some really strong and well qualified candidates looking for work at levels that I perceive to be below their pay grade. Vacancies are down for the 26th consecutive month and a whopping 25% down YoY. Its often one of the first markers of economic contraction and personally I do feel like we're on a bit of a knife edge economically. [Post edited 17 Oct 2024 12:59]
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I think without any work it would be between 2-3 months before having to subsequently dip into official 'savings' although it would likely be a bit longer if even working one day a week as per my reply to J2. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 13:18 - Oct 17 with 3053 views | Reus30 |
In depends:
In a scenario where I have savings, no mortgage, no big spend upcoming and I am utterly miserable, then yesterday.
Unfortunately, I have no savings, a big old mortgage, big spends upcoming and I am still utterly miserable then I just have to sit here and take it. Job market is really iffy right now so no chance I am moving. |  | | |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 13:25 - Oct 17 with 3008 views | MJallday |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 11:50 - Oct 17 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Every day since I started almost six months ago. |
then move on mate.
i spent 2 years in one department, hated it, so switched departments, so spent another 3 years being unhappy - basically picked on and bullied.
i think the topper was that i gave in a peice of work, which was slated. so i simply changed the name on the paper, and resubmitted it - and then said person got plaudits.
after i went to HR with that one, they realised they'd ****ed up massively. - and i entered into a compromise agreement to leave (didnt tell them i already had something lined up) - so walked with a mortgage clearing payout - but the truth is, i would have gone without that. (and tbh i probably could have sued them for more) - i had to take anti-depressents basically not to make me kill myself. it was that bad.
im 6 months into my new job, i love what i do, i have a supportive boss and team, and i fly around the world at their expense. couldnt be happier right now (well , it'd be nice if itfc won a game or two) - but cant have everything
my point is, it sounds like you need to get out - before they get you. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 13:37 - Oct 17 with 2948 views | bluestandard |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 12:08 - Oct 17 by Guthrum |
Once told an employer I was planning to leave before having a job to go to. Thought I was doing them a favour.
Turned into a disaster. They tried to force me out, verging upon constructive dismissal. Eventaually accepted two months salary in lieu of notice to leave when they wanted.
The person they'd lined up to replace me only stayed about six months. I didn't get the job I wanted and ended up going in a completely different direction.
Moral of the tale - be careful. |
I was going to say that 'constructive dismissal' is another example of when you might hand in your notice before having another job lined up.
Your story sounds horrible and sorry you had to experience that. Its only a guess, but I reckon when they found out you might want to leave, they panicked, found someone else who they thought could replace you but only had a limited window to hire him/her, didn't want to be paying two salaries and then hounded you out. Not nice. | | | |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 15:15 - Oct 17 with 2689 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Handing in notice before finding another job on 13:25 - Oct 17 by MJallday |
then move on mate.
i spent 2 years in one department, hated it, so switched departments, so spent another 3 years being unhappy - basically picked on and bullied.
i think the topper was that i gave in a peice of work, which was slated. so i simply changed the name on the paper, and resubmitted it - and then said person got plaudits.
after i went to HR with that one, they realised they'd ****ed up massively. - and i entered into a compromise agreement to leave (didnt tell them i already had something lined up) - so walked with a mortgage clearing payout - but the truth is, i would have gone without that. (and tbh i probably could have sued them for more) - i had to take anti-depressents basically not to make me kill myself. it was that bad.
im 6 months into my new job, i love what i do, i have a supportive boss and team, and i fly around the world at their expense. couldnt be happier right now (well , it'd be nice if itfc won a game or two) - but cant have everything
my point is, it sounds like you need to get out - before they get you. |
Sounds rough. I'm glad you're in a much better position now. | |
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| Handing in notice before finding another job on 16:05 - Oct 17 with 2593 views | factual_blue |
Just before your current employer institutes an investigation into gross misconduct.
Once they've started them, they'll tell any prospective employer you were under investigation for gross misconduct.
..or so a friend tells me. |  |
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