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Muric 21:34 - Dec 5 with 3512 viewscambourneblue

Distribution far to slow , bring back Walton
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Muric on 21:40 - Dec 5 with 2788 viewsgainsboroughblue

Maybe he is acting under instructions?

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Muric on 21:43 - Dec 5 with 2742 viewsbluejacko

Maybe there was no movement ahead of him because Palace players stood off him and cut down his options.
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Muric on 21:45 - Dec 5 with 2736 viewslowhouseblue

good shot stopper, good at taking high balls, not convincing in deciding when to come out and when to stay, distribution middling. but he's not about to be dropped.

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Muric on 21:49 - Dec 5 with 2695 viewsFrimleyBlue

It's not tho is it. Its as the speed we are playing ourselves.

What I do feel aswell is he looks more comfortable with his posture when kicking the ball lately. Looks more comfortable kicking it and has stopped trying the outside of his right-foot suicide pass.

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Muric on 21:54 - Dec 5 with 2664 viewsGlasgowBlue

Muric on 21:45 - Dec 5 by lowhouseblue

good shot stopper, good at taking high balls, not convincing in deciding when to come out and when to stay, distribution middling. but he's not about to be dropped.


With Palace's press, Tuesday's game was tailor made for a player like Hladky to make the brave and buttock clenching passes he did last season. Shame we can't have a combination of Hladky's ball playing and Muric's command of the area.

Although a keeper like that would be well out of our price range this season.

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Muric on 22:01 - Dec 5 with 2615 viewsStenvict

Muric on 21:54 - Dec 5 by GlasgowBlue

With Palace's press, Tuesday's game was tailor made for a player like Hladky to make the brave and buttock clenching passes he did last season. Shame we can't have a combination of Hladky's ball playing and Muric's command of the area.

Although a keeper like that would be well out of our price range this season.


I would say Muric would be doing that, but the opposition press in the PL is a lot different to that in the Championship, as we've seen. Palace's press was very good, so playing out from the back was very difficult, whoever the keeper was.

Edit: He's obviously been told to just clear his lines if it looks like we're in potential danger.
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Muric on 22:05 - Dec 5 with 2580 viewslowhouseblue

Muric on 21:54 - Dec 5 by GlasgowBlue

With Palace's press, Tuesday's game was tailor made for a player like Hladky to make the brave and buttock clenching passes he did last season. Shame we can't have a combination of Hladky's ball playing and Muric's command of the area.

Although a keeper like that would be well out of our price range this season.


overall i'm not unhappy with muric - and hopefully the best is yet to come. he's handling generally is pretty reassuring. i did like hladky though.

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Muric on 22:12 - Dec 5 with 2545 viewsSimonds92

Yeah good point, let's replace him with Walton who is renowned for his quick distribution and ability with the ball at his feet.
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Muric is doing absolutely fine on 22:13 - Dec 5 with 2543 viewsunstableblue

He’s making multiple goal saving saves in game, and taking crosses well

If there is no energy or movement in front of him and a high press from the opposition what is he meant to do?!

Our issue is more on the right side and quality of bench.

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Muric on 22:15 - Dec 5 with 2534 viewsSimonds92

Muric on 22:01 - Dec 5 by Stenvict

I would say Muric would be doing that, but the opposition press in the PL is a lot different to that in the Championship, as we've seen. Palace's press was very good, so playing out from the back was very difficult, whoever the keeper was.

Edit: He's obviously been told to just clear his lines if it looks like we're in potential danger.
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Tbf there was a ball on to Jack Clarke on the half turn in the centre circle all of the first half, nobody took it, there was nobody within 20 yards of him.
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Muric on 22:19 - Dec 5 with 2497 viewsFrimleyBlue

Muric on 21:54 - Dec 5 by GlasgowBlue

With Palace's press, Tuesday's game was tailor made for a player like Hladky to make the brave and buttock clenching passes he did last season. Shame we can't have a combination of Hladky's ball playing and Muric's command of the area.

Although a keeper like that would be well out of our price range this season.


We don't really have the ball players in front of him to do that with imo.

Oshea and greaves are good with the ball but neither imo are quick turners or defenders who can get out of a press. When we did try it. We got in all sorts of trouble.

As seem by southampton you can't keep doing the same thing when it's clear it doesn't work..

The thing for us now is to work out how make us more of an attacking threat whilst maintaining a nice solid defensive unit.

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Muric on 22:34 - Dec 5 with 2446 viewsNutkins_Return

That's exactly what he's asked to do. Exactly what Walton did in L1. Exactly!

McKenna has been through this enough times. The plan is to draw out opposing player to engage keeper and only then pass. Once that happens you should have extra man essentially to allow us to play out. Palace did their homework on our patterns out from the back and didn't even engage until later passes. Made us look very slow first half. McKenna changed it somewhat in 2nd with more variation.
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Muric on 08:37 - Dec 6 with 2180 viewsDubtractor

Muric on 22:19 - Dec 5 by FrimleyBlue

We don't really have the ball players in front of him to do that with imo.

Oshea and greaves are good with the ball but neither imo are quick turners or defenders who can get out of a press. When we did try it. We got in all sorts of trouble.

As seem by southampton you can't keep doing the same thing when it's clear it doesn't work..

The thing for us now is to work out how make us more of an attacking threat whilst maintaining a nice solid defensive unit.


Watching Southampton is weird.

They are clearly very good at creating space and finding the man with their passing out, but ultimately still don't really get anywhere with it, and it always feels as though teams are just waiting for a mistake to pounce on, as it will always happen eventually.

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Muric on 08:40 - Dec 6 with 2169 viewsDubtractor

Muric on 22:34 - Dec 5 by Nutkins_Return

That's exactly what he's asked to do. Exactly what Walton did in L1. Exactly!

McKenna has been through this enough times. The plan is to draw out opposing player to engage keeper and only then pass. Once that happens you should have extra man essentially to allow us to play out. Palace did their homework on our patterns out from the back and didn't even engage until later passes. Made us look very slow first half. McKenna changed it somewhat in 2nd with more variation.
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Palace did a number on us.

No one ever pressed Muric, which meant they could effectively mark all the options. Compare that to last year, when Hladky was sometimes pressed by two players (the goal against Hull at home a good example of this), and you can see why Muric was struggling to pick passes.

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Muric on 08:42 - Dec 6 with 2152 viewsCheltenham_Blue

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Muric on 09:35 - Dec 6 with 2035 viewsJammyDodgerrr

Muric on 08:40 - Dec 6 by Dubtractor

Palace did a number on us.

No one ever pressed Muric, which meant they could effectively mark all the options. Compare that to last year, when Hladky was sometimes pressed by two players (the goal against Hull at home a good example of this), and you can see why Muric was struggling to pick passes.


Absolutely spot on. Glasner is a brilliant coach and he proved it the other night.

I know this thread is a meme and Muric has been public enemy number one for a little while, but it always makes me smile when people want him dropped for Walton - a keeper who is worse with his feet!

If you want him dropped we'd have to bring in Slicker for a better ball at his feet keeper(from what we understand of Slicker anyway...)

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Muric on 09:53 - Dec 6 with 1976 viewsDavoIPB

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Muric on 09:55 - Dec 6 with 1972 viewsDJR

Muric on 21:54 - Dec 5 by GlasgowBlue

With Palace's press, Tuesday's game was tailor made for a player like Hladky to make the brave and buttock clenching passes he did last season. Shame we can't have a combination of Hladky's ball playing and Muric's command of the area.

Although a keeper like that would be well out of our price range this season.


I also feel that neither Greaves nor O'Shea is as good as Woolfy in moving the ball out from the back and moving into space.
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Muric on 10:10 - Dec 6 with 1922 viewsNutkins_Return

Muric on 08:40 - Dec 6 by Dubtractor

Palace did a number on us.

No one ever pressed Muric, which meant they could effectively mark all the options. Compare that to last year, when Hladky was sometimes pressed by two players (the goal against Hull at home a good example of this), and you can see why Muric was struggling to pick passes.


Yep. They were clever. Normally on second pass they would start to engage only and we go stuck in corners and a lot of turnover or throwins given away. So Hladky or whomever would make zero difference.

I use the Walton League 1 example as we had a few teams that would just not engage and then it made Walton look like he was just slowing us down. It causes us a bit of an issue. McKenna does have tweaks though and we saw that in the second half. I thought we were mixing it much better but obviously then the goal came.

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Muric on 12:26 - Dec 6 with 1723 viewsbilllm

Muric on 21:40 - Dec 5 by gainsboroughblue

Maybe he is acting under instructions?


He must be,
Was our nich in the championship bring teams in get it out fast that's gone, must be deliberate,
Though palace weren't biting which meant fighting for the second ball,
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Muric on 12:37 - Dec 6 with 1684 viewsRimsy

Time to admit this one was a mistake. He's the weak link in our defence. Give Walton (or Slicker) a run.

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Muric on 12:42 - Dec 6 with 1659 viewsDubtractor

Muric on 12:37 - Dec 6 by Rimsy

Time to admit this one was a mistake. He's the weak link in our defence. Give Walton (or Slicker) a run.


What on earth are you talking about?

He had a few wobbles at the start, but has performed very well in recent weeks.

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Muric on 12:53 - Dec 6 with 1607 viewsRimsy

Muric on 12:42 - Dec 6 by Dubtractor

What on earth are you talking about?

He had a few wobbles at the start, but has performed very well in recent weeks.


That's one opinion. Mine is he is poor and a definite downgrade on Hladky. All opinions and I respect yours

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Muric on 12:55 - Dec 6 with 1595 viewsITFC_Forever

Muric on 12:37 - Dec 6 by Rimsy

Time to admit this one was a mistake. He's the weak link in our defence. Give Walton (or Slicker) a run.


He’s got a rick in, but he’s saved us far more times that he’s let us down.

Nowhere near being dropped.

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Muric on 13:10 - Dec 6 with 1545 viewsFacefacts

There won't be a change until the FA Cup. With Slicker getting in the full Scotland squad, it could be either Slicker (surely the long term answer - or we have to give him games to find out) or Walton (manager/club loyalty).
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