Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections 10:05 - Jan 27 with 1687 views | ElderGrizzly | Time Story today, building on a Guardian poll from earlier in the month: Most young people are in favour of turning the UK into a dictatorship, according to a “deeply worrying” study, which has revealed an acceptance of authoritarianism and radicalism among Generation Z. Fifty-two per cent of Gen Z – people aged between 13 and 27 – said they thought “the UK would be a better place if a strong leader was in charge who does not have to bother with parliament and elections" Young people are dumb. |  | | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:07 - Jan 27 with 1361 views | J2BLUE | So that's the elderly who are dumb. The young are dumb. Thank god we have the perfectly middle aged to keep the country in order. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:08 - Jan 27 with 1344 views | Trequartista | I think if you had a good dictator, that's the best scenario, but they're never good are they. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:10 - Jan 27 with 1326 views | DanTheMan |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:08 - Jan 27 by Trequartista | I think if you had a good dictator, that's the best scenario, but they're never good are they. |
There have been a few throughout history, depending on your definition of dictator. A small minority though. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:13 - Jan 27 with 1288 views | Trequartista |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:10 - Jan 27 by DanTheMan | There have been a few throughout history, depending on your definition of dictator. A small minority though. |
And depending on the definition of good of course! |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:14 - Jan 27 with 1270 views | FromReuserWithLove | Arise Andrew Tate then. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:22 - Jan 27 with 1217 views | ElderGrizzly |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:07 - Jan 27 by J2BLUE | So that's the elderly who are dumb. The young are dumb. Thank god we have the perfectly middle aged to keep the country in order. |
I fear we are all just dumb pawns in the game. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:29 - Jan 27 with 1184 views | tonybied | I think it highlights that democracy is failing the general public on the whole. To many people are becoming disengaged with politics nowadays. It's no real surprise with the blatant corruption/cronyism and blurred lines between parties that been evident for the last couple of decades. Add that to diminishing living standards, public amenities being sold of to private companies for penny's, then still being propped up by the public, endless enquiries but recommendations not being enforced etc, etc, etc. it's understandable why people have become disenfranchised. The only way to win these people over is politicians need to be better. The public gets what the public wants. If it doesn't improve people will want change. Brexit proved people are willing to cut their nose off too spite their face, when they don't feel they're being listened to. BTW, just to confirm I am all for democracy and understand how awful most dictatorships usually end up. As already posted by someone above, they work well with a great leader but don't normally end well as a wrong 'un usually ends up 'finding' their way into power. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:31 - Jan 27 with 1170 views | Swansea_Blue |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:08 - Jan 27 by Trequartista | I think if you had a good dictator, that's the best scenario, but they're never good are they. |
An absolute monarchy is another option. Again, you're in the lap of the gods whether you get a good monarch or not. Bhutan was pretty happy under their old king, who himself decided that they would move to a parliamentary system. They only did that in 2008. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:33 - Jan 27 with 1153 views | SomethingBlue | The level of bad information they are being fed online is way out of control – and there is no sign of an educational system popping up that teaches critical thinking or media literacy to any universally useful standard. Cannot see things getting better, sadly. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:36 - Jan 27 with 1116 views | bluester | “Young people are dumb” Or, young people have spent most of their lives on social media being manipulated by algorithms which promote these stupid ideas. This is probably not by accident. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:37 - Jan 27 with 1110 views | DanTheMan |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:31 - Jan 27 by Swansea_Blue | An absolute monarchy is another option. Again, you're in the lap of the gods whether you get a good monarch or not. Bhutan was pretty happy under their old king, who himself decided that they would move to a parliamentary system. They only did that in 2008. |
That's along the lines of what I was thinking, absolute monarchs are essentially dictators. Luck of the draw as to whether they are any good. Emperor Meiji probably qualifies as a good one. Cincinnatus would almost certainly count. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:39 - Jan 27 with 1094 views | bluester |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:37 - Jan 27 by DanTheMan | That's along the lines of what I was thinking, absolute monarchs are essentially dictators. Luck of the draw as to whether they are any good. Emperor Meiji probably qualifies as a good one. Cincinnatus would almost certainly count. |
Caligula was probably fun at a family gathering. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:43 - Jan 27 with 1054 views | Swansea_Blue |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:37 - Jan 27 by DanTheMan | That's along the lines of what I was thinking, absolute monarchs are essentially dictators. Luck of the draw as to whether they are any good. Emperor Meiji probably qualifies as a good one. Cincinnatus would almost certainly count. |
The main difference being that dictators often grab power by force, so it's essentially self-selecting that they are wrong 'uns. A hereditary monarchy at least gives a greater chance of peaceful transitions. Yes, absolutely luck of the draw though. I'm not sure I'd want that, although FPTP means that most of us effectively have no say anyway. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:50 - Jan 27 with 1003 views | FromReuserWithLove |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:43 - Jan 27 by Swansea_Blue | The main difference being that dictators often grab power by force, so it's essentially self-selecting that they are wrong 'uns. A hereditary monarchy at least gives a greater chance of peaceful transitions. Yes, absolutely luck of the draw though. I'm not sure I'd want that, although FPTP means that most of us effectively have no say anyway. |
Kieran McKenna for me. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:51 - Jan 27 with 989 views | SuperKieranMcKenna | Not a fan of generalising an entire generation, as a millennial we largely faced the same accusations of laziness, naivety, and entitment. My experience of Gen z is they just have that idealism that you lose as you get older! Perhaps a field trip to Russia would focus minds! History shows more power you give the state, the more likely corruption and authoritarianism follows. The only people that ever seem to advocate dictatorship, communism, totalitarianism are those that have never lived under it. All a laugh until you are thrown out of a helicopter. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:53 - Jan 27 with 980 views | BasingstokeBlue | Dammit - ignore the unintentional uppie. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:59 - Jan 27 with 934 views | baxterbasics | We noticed in Ipswich town centre for the last couple of weeks there's been a group distributing communist literature. Might not be the sort of dictatorship we are talking about here but it's still another form of authoritarianism. I felt like asking them if they were aware that the hammer and sickle flag they were sporting is responsible for at least as many deaths as the Swastika, but decided against as I didn't need the aggro of a "that was the wrong sort of communism" or "but what about neoliberalism" type conversation. Anyway, point my wife made, and she is much less interested in political conversations than I am: "why are they always young people, and why do they always seem like they need a shower?" I guess the idea of surrendering all personal responsibility for meeting your needs to the state or some form of dictator is appealing to a lot of people. We saw how easily this happens during Covid. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:00 - Jan 27 with 922 views | BloomBlue | Hasnt research shown that Gen Z is the generation least likely to vote? Maybe they've decided if they aren't going to vote then having a democracy is pointless, so just go with a dictator. |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:03 - Jan 27 with 903 views | ElderGrizzly |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:53 - Jan 27 by BasingstokeBlue | Dammit - ignore the unintentional uppie. |
As you should be. No voting will be allowed in Phil's dictatorship version of TWTD |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:03 - Jan 27 with 900 views | BlibbiBlob1976 | I think someone should have put a Proportional Representation option to them. Has all the advantages of consistent and stable gov, without the slightly concerning dictatorship vibes |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:03 - Jan 27 with 904 views | Guthrum | 52% of youngsters who have never lived under a dictatorship or spoken to people who did - or even read Solzhenitsyn - favour something of which they have no comprehension. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:04 - Jan 27 with 888 views | ElderGrizzly |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:00 - Jan 27 by BloomBlue | Hasnt research shown that Gen Z is the generation least likely to vote? Maybe they've decided if they aren't going to vote then having a democracy is pointless, so just go with a dictator. |
Allow voting through TikTok. Problem solved. Well until the Chinese manipulate the data |  | |  |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:08 - Jan 27 with 864 views | homer_123 |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:03 - Jan 27 by ElderGrizzly | As you should be. No voting will be allowed in Phil's dictatorship version of TWTD |
Only votes for the Almighty Bald One |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:11 - Jan 27 with 850 views | Guthrum |
Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 10:08 - Jan 27 by Trequartista | I think if you had a good dictator, that's the best scenario, but they're never good are they. |
The benign dictator is a myth. Even Jerry Rawlings had his opponents shot. |  |
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Urgh - Gen Z say they prefer dictators to elections on 11:14 - Jan 27 with 815 views | Freddies_Ears | 52%. Worked out well the last time a national poll ended 52-48 against the status quo. |  | |  |
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