| Mckenna out!!! 16:30 - Aug 30 with 2526 views | Denny32 |
Can't get in proper defenders ,and coach how to defend...im losing patience |  | | |  |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:31 - Aug 30 with 2353 views | Keno |
F U C K OFF!!! |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:33 - Aug 30 with 2229 views | Waig |
Time to ask questions imo | | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:33 - Aug 30 with 2221 views | blueoutlook |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:31 - Aug 30 by Keno |
F U C K OFF!!! |
You will get more of this if things don’t change I’m afraid. We are always the only team that needs to gel. Don’t hear other sides say it. Derby have 8 new players as well. We are painfully slow and km loves attacking and our attack is powder puff stuff. |  | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:41 - Aug 30 with 1962 views | brazil1982 |
It's been a terrible start to the season. Big pressure after the international break, performances have to change otherwise the club and Manager are in trouble. |  | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:42 - Aug 30 with 1913 views | wkj |
I'm also losing patients faster than Harold Shipman; what we need is Merlin the Magician |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:47 - Aug 30 with 1731 views | baxterbasics |
Firstly, it’s not our defenders fault that our multi million pound attacking line can’t score one goal in four league games (five if you count the cup game).
Secondly… bore off |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:48 - Aug 30 with 1712 views | Waig |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:47 - Aug 30 by baxterbasics |
Firstly, it’s not our defenders fault that our multi million pound attacking line can’t score one goal in four league games (five if you count the cup game).
Secondly… bore off |
The Americans won’t put up with this for much longer. | | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:49 - Aug 30 with 1659 views | J4ck22 |
Defending isn't the issue | | | |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:50 - Aug 30 with 1641 views | blueoutlook |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:47 - Aug 30 by baxterbasics |
Firstly, it’s not our defenders fault that our multi million pound attacking line can’t score one goal in four league games (five if you count the cup game).
Secondly… bore off |
A bloody expensive attack yes, but bloody powder puff with it! And the defence isn’t great. Davis can’t defend for toffee and Greaves is always prone to mistakes. | | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:51 - Aug 30 with 1589 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:49 - Aug 30 by J4ck22 |
Defending isn't the issue |
You sure? We've looked very suspect |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:53 - Aug 30 with 1528 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:49 - Aug 30 by J4ck22 |
Defending isn't the issue |
When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? |  | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:54 - Aug 30 with 1472 views | wkj |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:53 - Aug 30 by reusersfreekicks |
When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? |
As in Town, or the fans? *grabs my coat* | |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:54 - Aug 30 with 1468 views | Swailsey |
It’s still too early to call for his head, but it isn’t nonsense to be kinda getting that way. We’ve been on a downward trajectory for a while, and he doesn’t seem to be getting the best from the players. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 16:54 - Aug 30 with 1451 views | DavoIPB |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:53 - Aug 30 by reusersfreekicks |
When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? |
Now longest run ever for Ipswich without keeping a cleaning sheet | | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 18:24 - Aug 30 with 1113 views | bluelagos |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:31 - Aug 30 by Keno |
F U C K OFF!!! |
No need to shout Keno, even if the bloke is a class 1 bellend |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 18:25 - Aug 30 with 1095 views | Benters |
Balls |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 18:30 - Aug 30 with 1045 views | HighgateBlue |
I'm not McKenna out.
But just on the coaching how to defend point, we had Palmer last season, and Davis, and O'Shea, and Greaves. Together. In the Premier League. So 4 of the back 5 have been working together for some time, under this manager. Leaving aside the fact that we got more points per game when O'Shea played with Burgess, and McKenna clearly made a decision that Burgess is not a starter, how can this defence not have been coached to be good enough in the /championship/ by now? And they have holding midfielders in front of them...
We make our opponents' attackers look clinical, and we make our own look like they need to go to a clinic. |  | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 18:30 - Aug 30 with 1041 views | Keno |
| Mckenna out!!! on 18:24 - Aug 30 by bluelagos |
No need to shout Keno, even if the bloke is a class 1 bellend |
I thought I was being rather eloquent | |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 18:32 - Aug 30 with 1005 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:53 - Aug 30 by reusersfreekicks |
When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? |
We don’t actually give that many chances away - we just concede the ones we do. |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 18:46 - Aug 30 with 906 views | superblue70 |
| Mckenna out!!! on 18:32 - Aug 30 by ITFC_Forever |
We don’t actually give that many chances away - we just concede the ones we do. |
That's a good point, has Palmer actually made a save this season? Didn't today, didn't last week either can't remember beyond that. Not a criticism just wondered. | | | |
| Mckenna out!!! on 07:45 - Aug 31 with 614 views | SitfcB |
Fúck off. |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 08:00 - Aug 31 with 554 views | Chrisd |
| Mckenna out!!! on 18:30 - Aug 30 by HighgateBlue |
I'm not McKenna out.
But just on the coaching how to defend point, we had Palmer last season, and Davis, and O'Shea, and Greaves. Together. In the Premier League. So 4 of the back 5 have been working together for some time, under this manager. Leaving aside the fact that we got more points per game when O'Shea played with Burgess, and McKenna clearly made a decision that Burgess is not a starter, how can this defence not have been coached to be good enough in the /championship/ by now? And they have holding midfielders in front of them...
We make our opponents' attackers look clinical, and we make our own look like they need to go to a clinic. |
You can’t come on here and provide a reasonable and measured post like this!! 100% agree btw. [Post edited 31 Aug 9:54]
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| Mckenna out!!! on 08:00 - Aug 31 with 551 views | NthQldITFC |
Hi Denny 
Sargent's off to Leeds. |  |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 08:17 - Aug 31 with 471 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:33 - Aug 30 by blueoutlook |
You will get more of this if things don’t change I’m afraid. We are always the only team that needs to gel. Don’t hear other sides say it. Derby have 8 new players as well. We are painfully slow and km loves attacking and our attack is powder puff stuff. |
You don't hear other sides say It? Of course you do!
Derby are below us in the table so awful example. I'm sure they are saying the same burnt be honest I wouldn't be comparing a direct team like them with how we operate. | |
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| Mckenna out!!! on 09:35 - Aug 31 with 301 views | darkhorse28 |
| Mckenna out!!! on 16:31 - Aug 30 by Keno |
F U C K OFF!!! |
Emotions aside, and McKenna needs at least until November, you likely are in the wrong side of this.
The more I look at it, the more obvious it is; that McKenna hasn’t ever built the core team dynamic here…, that’s not to detract from his coaching and what he has achieved.
Morsy, Burns, Chaplin, Burgess, Walton (in league one) were the leadership group, he didn’t sign any of them, Wolf too was already here.
That was one hell of a chunk of our success that Ashton and McKenna inherited.
They added quality, coached the group very well, and we had one season where the alchemy was magic…., it was also the season in 45 years watching us, the small margins fell in our favour more than ever.
The group was ripped up, and we’ve spent close to £190 million now gross.
Sunderland and Leeds have achieved more in two games than we did in an entire season.
We bought EFL championship players of the season in Sammie, Greaves, and Clarke, and they’ve all regressed massively, and they’ve been here over a year.
Our recruitment strategy very clearly doesn’t exist.., we sign good players, but there seems no obvious plan or vision.
Even the rhetoric around our recruitment is SO poor…, we signed young players knowing if we were successful, they’d be sold, and if we weren’t successful, they’d be sold.
That 100% wasn’t the strategy sold to the owners.
McKenna leveraged himself a champions league level contract, and has been awful ever since…, maybe a coincidence, maybe not, that’s a lot of pressure to put yourself under at such a young age.
He’s clearly a great coach.
He’s also clearly WAY short in a lot of areas, essential to be elite. Both can be true.
This group won’t do better than 96 points, they won’t even be close.
And that group cost 10 million…, not close to £200 million.
Sorry. This isn’t progress. It’s not success. It’s not elite.
Who’s to blame doesn’t matter.
Long term there will need to be changes.., otherwise we can’t be successful.
We could win every game this season .., then what?
Our 1990’s WBA defence that was never elite at any point, how’s that going do in a premier league now five times the level the last time they couldn’t cut it.
Shall we spend another £200 million next summer. Replace the defence and GK entirely? And half the rest of the group?
Theres no plan, no vision, no togetherness, it doesn’t need to make you feel good to be true.
What we do about it, is for another day, but doing nothing won’t be the answer long term.
Look at Sunderland.., no legacy finances, or players, they’ve done more in TWO games than we did in a season!
They are TOGETHER and have a team dynamic.
We have t had that since McKenna disbanded the group Cook brought in, right decision probably, but he clearly can’t build that dynamic.
I don’t think McKenna or Ashton fully understood what made the magic work.
McKenna 100% thinks the answer to every question is on the coaching pitch…, it’s not .., most elite sides are built between the ears.
Mo Salah would run over his grannie to be the best version of himself.
Johnson and a few we’ve signed, wouldn’t cross the road to be that.
Chaplin would.., Morsy would give you a black eye if you didn’t.., Burns too wanted it, Burgess did, Wolf at the time, bought in.
We lost the traits that make a team.
Replaces them with better quality, that doesn’t have the fire, the motivation, the hunger.
Philogene, Nohnskn, Clarke, they wouldn’t play in our legacy group…, they’d be out injured after Sam have them a ‘straightener’
McKenna is a carrot motivator .., great when it’s going well.
He doesn’t have the other side, and the bit that’s really not elite, he doesn’t have the awareness to know he needs that quality in the group.
It’s poor.., 14 months results don’t lie.., players going backwards don’t lie.., watching us, doesn’t lie.
Maybe your ego won’t ever let go of the fantasy you built, but don’t abuse people who probably will end up on the right side of the argument.
If elite is established premier league, and that’s the level he’s still paid at, then it’s how he has to be judged.
And it’s staggeringly short.
This group of players should walk this league, and we need patience, but the last rebuild failed massively, and our WBA defence won’t ever make the standard, no coach can achieve that.
New owners ‘incoming’ so let’s see how much patience they have.
If it was your business.., £200 million spent, you would be beyond annoyed.
That’s a lot of money in the EFL - FOURTY YEARS EFL back TV money we’ve spent, on new players in 18 months.
There isn’t an option where we stay in the EFL without severe consequences. | | | |
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