| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. 23:15 - Sep 3 with 2033 views | unstableblue |
… because we didn’t support him in a war with Iran that had no strategy and plan, disrupted the entire region, has had significant civilian loss, has strengthened an extreme regime, and has no end in sight.
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:19 - Sep 3 with 1998 views | redrickstuhaart |
Not as if they did so previously... |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:23 - Sep 3 with 1977 views | unstableblue |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:19 - Sep 3 by redrickstuhaart |
Not as if they did so previously... |
“The United States provided substantial intelligence, logistical, and satellite support to the United Kingdom during the Falklands War, despite maintaining formal public neutrality early on.”
You’ve got the orange man baby and Hegseth lord of War in place now. [Post edited 3 Sep 23:24]
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:35 - Sep 3 with 1904 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:23 - Sep 3 by unstableblue |
“The United States provided substantial intelligence, logistical, and satellite support to the United Kingdom during the Falklands War, despite maintaining formal public neutrality early on.”
You’ve got the orange man baby and Hegseth lord of War in place now. [Post edited 3 Sep 23:24]
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:57 - Sep 3 with 1855 views | Perublue |
The states were more of a hindrance to us than a help IIRC certainly before and during minimal if anything.
Chile was our biggest ally. [Post edited 3 Sep 23:58]
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 06:14 - Sep 4 with 1449 views | WeWereZombies |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:57 - Sep 3 by Perublue |
The states were more of a hindrance to us than a help IIRC certainly before and during minimal if anything.
Chile was our biggest ally. [Post edited 3 Sep 23:58]
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Although the regime in Chilé at the time was a military dictatorship who had perpetrated many murders of civilians. Then ago, this was also true of Argentina then... |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 07:20 - Sep 4 with 1359 views | StokieBlue |
Doesn't really matter what his position is. Argentina aren't going to attack the Falklands and even if they did the disparity between the two militaries is far greater now.
Stick one Type 45 down there and nothing they have is getting anywhere near the islands. There are also 4 Eurofigters permanently stationed there now.
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:15 - Sep 4 with 1187 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 07:20 - Sep 4 by StokieBlue |
Doesn't really matter what his position is. Argentina aren't going to attack the Falklands and even if they did the disparity between the two militaries is far greater now.
Stick one Type 45 down there and nothing they have is getting anywhere near the islands. There are also 4 Eurofigters permanently stationed there now.
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Yet we keep being told we’re vulnerable and need to scrap domestic energy and water projects to pay for more military hardware. Maybe being 8th strongest global military power isn’t enough for some. |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:19 - Sep 4 with 1175 views | TIB |
He also forced the UK to allow the delivery of F16’s to Argentina earlier this year, we will have instability on both fronts shortly, Russia and Argentina. |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:47 - Sep 4 with 1107 views | StokieBlue |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:19 - Sep 4 by TIB |
He also forced the UK to allow the delivery of F16’s to Argentina earlier this year, we will have instability on both fronts shortly, Russia and Argentina. |
You honestly think that Argentina would attack the Falklands again or that Russia would attack us directly?
Neither of those things is going to happen in my view.
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:23 - Sep 4 with 1019 views | Guthrum |
It's simpler than that. Milei is one of his mates. |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:39 - Sep 4 with 969 views | BlueBadger |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:23 - Sep 4 by Guthrum |
It's simpler than that. Milei is one of his mates. |
...at the moment. |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:52 - Sep 4 with 943 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
Doesn't matter now. Ashton handed the Falklands over to Argentina as part of the Palacios deal. |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:58 - Sep 4 with 933 views | TIB |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:47 - Sep 4 by StokieBlue |
You honestly think that Argentina would attack the Falklands again or that Russia would attack us directly?
Neither of those things is going to happen in my view.
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Hi SB, no, more than its another geo political drama we’re going to be wrapped up in which is what I meant by “instability”. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up seeing Netenyahu and Trump trying to strong arm it away from us with sanctions and threats, seems to be the way or the world now. | |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:01 - Sep 4 with 918 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:52 - Sep 4 by ThatMuhrenCross |
Doesn't matter now. Ashton handed the Falklands over to Argentina as part of the Palacios deal. |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:05 - Sep 4 with 903 views | WD19 |
Technically their official position was 'neutral' before anyway, so we should say that is why we didn't help with Iran. |  | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:14 - Sep 4 with 872 views | Guthrum |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:58 - Sep 4 by TIB |
Hi SB, no, more than its another geo political drama we’re going to be wrapped up in which is what I meant by “instability”. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up seeing Netenyahu and Trump trying to strong arm it away from us with sanctions and threats, seems to be the way or the world now. |
I can't see Netanyahu having any interest in the Falklands. His geopolitical world-view is centred entirely around Israel and his own position. Antagonising the UK doesn't gain him anything on that front. | |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:28 - Sep 4 with 813 views | Guthrum |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 08:15 - Sep 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Yet we keep being told we’re vulnerable and need to scrap domestic energy and water projects to pay for more military hardware. Maybe being 8th strongest global military power isn’t enough for some. |
We are vulnerable, in certain areas. War has changed a lot in the last four years. Drones, cyber, covert attacks on production and infrastructure. That's where a lot of the increased expenditure is going, not tanks and rifles.
The problem is actually one of revenue shortage (and inflation). The fact that, politically, our leaders have to rob other departmental budgets rather than being able to reform or increase taxation to cope with the more challenging environment we find ourselves in. Not helped by this situation itself directly causing cost-of-living issues (mainly gas and oil price rises). | |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:31 - Sep 4 with 804 views | TIB |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:14 - Sep 4 by Guthrum |
I can't see Netanyahu having any interest in the Falklands. His geopolitical world-view is centred entirely around Israel and his own position. Antagonising the UK doesn't gain him anything on that front. |
We will see, it didn’t stop them arming Argentina last time so they could break into the Latin American arms market, and with our government set to impose a "comprehensive" package of sanctions in the coming weeks related to Israeli settlements, I’m sure we’ll see some retribution. | |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:39 - Sep 4 with 776 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 09:58 - Sep 4 by TIB |
Hi SB, no, more than its another geo political drama we’re going to be wrapped up in which is what I meant by “instability”. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up seeing Netenyahu and Trump trying to strong arm it away from us with sanctions and threats, seems to be the way or the world now. |
Lol! What possible damaging sanctions could Israel threaten the UK with? That would also be self defeating since we export them components for the Iron Dome and David’s sling etc. Not to mention we’ve assisted in shooting down Iranian and Houthi projectiles.
The US won’t, it has $100’s billions of interests in the UK, and sanctions would cripple it’s companies operating in both the UK and Europe (since they typically have to comply with US Sanctions). People need to stop taking Trump’s word at face value, reporters shove a mic in his face in the hope of provocative comments and he blurts out whatever comes into his head. Pretty much like when he said Venezuela was going to be about big oil developmentl, before all the oil majors told him it wasn’t viable. He’s clueless.
Argentina won’t do anything, it’s typical drum beating to distract from the government’s corruption and incompetence. Inflation is running at >30pc in Argentina, they’ve had to have US bailouts due to their currency falling in value, and the state has been selling off assets to pay down some of its debt. | | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:43 - Sep 4 with 757 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I think he's way more likely to be out of the office, or dead, before anything kicked off in the Falklands. |  | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:49 - Sep 4 with 730 views | mellowblue |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 07:20 - Sep 4 by StokieBlue |
Doesn't really matter what his position is. Argentina aren't going to attack the Falklands and even if they did the disparity between the two militaries is far greater now.
Stick one Type 45 down there and nothing they have is getting anywhere near the islands. There are also 4 Eurofigters permanently stationed there now.
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There is a fair amount of early warning radar there as well. | | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 11:44 - Sep 4 with 634 views | Bent_double |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 10:14 - Sep 4 by Guthrum |
I can't see Netanyahu having any interest in the Falklands. His geopolitical world-view is centred entirely around Israel and his own position. Antagonising the UK doesn't gain him anything on that front. |
Maybe he's not aware of the Israeli company, Navitas Petroleum, who are partnering Rockhopper to develop the Sealion oil field off the Falklands?
I'm sure all that oil down there has not piqued the interest of Milei or Trumpy either... |  |
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| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 12:01 - Sep 4 with 592 views | djgooder |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 23:23 - Sep 3 by unstableblue |
“The United States provided substantial intelligence, logistical, and satellite support to the United Kingdom during the Falklands War, despite maintaining formal public neutrality early on.”
You’ve got the orange man baby and Hegseth lord of War in place now. [Post edited 3 Sep 23:24]
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They gave us sidewinder missile too if I remeber correctly and that was deemed new tech at the time. |  | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 12:04 - Sep 4 with 568 views | OldFart71 |
Like everything to do with the orange blob it's money. The Falklands are known for minerals probably worth a large fortune and like everything to do with Trump the $ signs are flashing in his eyes.
It is my honest belief that with regards to Iran he is making money out of it whether that's betting on oil prices or whatever.
I don't just pick Trump out though as politicians, leaders or whatever of every nation under most circumstances end up much richer after their time in charge and most aren't the least bit worried whatever they say about the masses. | | | |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 13:12 - Sep 4 with 469 views | Guthrum |
| Donald Trump won’t support us in protecting the Falkland Islanders…. on 11:44 - Sep 4 by Bent_double |
Maybe he's not aware of the Israeli company, Navitas Petroleum, who are partnering Rockhopper to develop the Sealion oil field off the Falklands?
I'm sure all that oil down there has not piqued the interest of Milei or Trumpy either... |
Seabed resources (potential or discovered) have been the basis of the dispute for decades.
The UK only originally held onto the islands in the late 19th/early 20th centuries as a strategic coaling station in the South Atlantic. Then a bit later to reinforce our claim to bits of Antarctica (which is also partly why the Argentines want it).
I think there would have been some kind of agreement in the '80s if Galtieri hadn't decided to invade. The UK government did not want to have to pay for maintaining their sovreignty (e.g. retiring HMS Endurance). However, the events of 1982 made that impossible for the forseeble future. | |
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