| worst league finish for 58 years? 17:06 - Mar 6 with 4393 views | CaptainObvious |
we are currently occupying the position (on goal difference) that would be our equal worst finish in 58 years. plenty of points still to be attained of course, but isn't Mick McCarthy doing a great job?
and because that's what we are constantly being told, you cannot possibly tell if that's sarcastic or not! |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:08 - Mar 6 with 4015 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Who said he's doing a 'great job'
This is what you mick outers do. You seem to think anyone who blames Evans thinks mick does a great job.
On this budget, I think mick is doing the job he should be doing budget wise to position wise |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:15 - Mar 6 with 4006 views | SomethingBlue |
I would say, quite apart from any Mick-related argument, that we are are at a bigger competitive disadvantage than in any of our other seasons in this division over the last 58 years. I'd be impressed to hear an argument to the contrary. |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:25 - Mar 6 with 3979 views | Radlett_blue |
what is particularly depressing is that a club the size of Brentford has more resources than us, presumably because Benham is prepared to lose more money than is Evans. What is more depressing is that they, as a club, have developed a far more attractive style of play, to which they have stuck for some years. I know the argument that Mick would play better football if he had the backing to buy better players, but I still hope he isn't at PR next season as the combination of him & Evans seems to be creating a downward spiral of performances & attendances. |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:30 - Mar 6 with 3950 views | Benters |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:32 - Mar 6 with 3936 views | Ftnfwest |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:25 - Mar 6 by Radlett_blue |
what is particularly depressing is that a club the size of Brentford has more resources than us, presumably because Benham is prepared to lose more money than is Evans. What is more depressing is that they, as a club, have developed a far more attractive style of play, to which they have stuck for some years. I know the argument that Mick would play better football if he had the backing to buy better players, but I still hope he isn't at PR next season as the combination of him & Evans seems to be creating a downward spiral of performances & attendances. |
In transfer fees at least Brentfords starting 11 cost twenty times that of ours |  | | |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:43 - Mar 6 with 3874 views | Benters |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:32 - Mar 6 by Ftnfwest |
In transfer fees at least Brentfords starting 11 cost twenty times that of ours |
Yet their average league attendance last season was 10310 and their tickets are cheaper than ours, how does that work then ? | |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:46 - Mar 6 with 3860 views | Ftnfwest |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:43 - Mar 6 by Benters |
Yet their average league attendance last season was 10310 and their tickets are cheaper than ours, how does that work then ? |
They rather cleverly sold a couple of players for a lot of money and reinvested it, although of course we did that as well...oh | | | |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:47 - Mar 6 with 3853 views | Benters |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:46 - Mar 6 by Ftnfwest |
They rather cleverly sold a couple of players for a lot of money and reinvested it, although of course we did that as well...oh |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:09 - Mar 6 with 3803 views | BlueBadger |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:32 - Mar 6 by Ftnfwest |
In transfer fees at least Brentfords starting 11 cost twenty times that of ours |
And they currently sit one place and one point above us... [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 18:09]
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:15 - Mar 6 with 3788 views | gtsb1966 |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:08 - Mar 6 by The_Romford_Blue |
Who said he's doing a 'great job'
This is what you mick outers do. You seem to think anyone who blames Evans thinks mick does a great job.
On this budget, I think mick is doing the job he should be doing budget wise to position wise |
He doesn't help himself though when he has Pitman on the bench but prefers Moore. Its those decisions that get peoples backs up. |  | | |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:37 - Mar 6 with 3725 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:15 - Mar 6 by gtsb1966 |
He doesn't help himself though when he has Pitman on the bench but prefers Moore. Its those decisions that get peoples backs up. |
I do agree with that
Having said that, pitman has been awful since Christmas for some reason. His attitude against Derby was awful. | |
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| You do realise we're ahead of QPR on goal difference? on 18:58 - Mar 6 with 3653 views | Guthrum |
Not behind. Also that we finished in 15th (our actual current League position) just 5 seasons ago (plus a couple before that and once under Royle)?
Edit: If we were one place lower, you would be correct. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:05]
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:06 - Mar 6 with 3626 views | Ftnfwest |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:09 - Mar 6 by BlueBadger |
And they currently sit one place and one point above us... [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 18:09]
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Exactly just think what we could do with that. New manager for a start | | | |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:16 - Mar 6 with 3594 views | KilburnBlue |
Mentioned this in a another thread a couple of days ago when someone mentioned this could be our worse season in decades.
Since we got out of the third tier 60 years ago we have never been back. Only a handful of clubs have stayed in the top two flights in that time & Im proud our club is one of them.
We Finished 16th in the 58/59 season so still a possibility that we could finish lower. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:17]
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:26 - Mar 6 with 3545 views | 3_5_2 |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:37 - Mar 6 by The_Romford_Blue |
I do agree with that
Having said that, pitman has been awful since Christmas for some reason. His attitude against Derby was awful. |
What?
His attitude was awful? You went to the game yes?
We were 3 nil down in no time and the first 45 minutes we were penned almost totally in our own half. The "service" he received was a succession of hoofs which their CB won every time. He is a box player and he needs chances, on the floor mainly in and around the 18 yard box. That night he was totally isolated.
That had nothing to do with with his attitude, it was a shocking, awful team performance since which, MM has at least shortened up the play and tried to play a bit. Ironically on Saturday, Pitman was the better suited player for us when we neede a change but we went route one again with Moore. |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:52 - Mar 6 with 3480 views | Guthrum |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:16 - Mar 6 by KilburnBlue |
Mentioned this in a another thread a couple of days ago when someone mentioned this could be our worse season in decades.
Since we got out of the third tier 60 years ago we have never been back. Only a handful of clubs have stayed in the top two flights in that time & Im proud our club is one of them.
We Finished 16th in the 58/59 season so still a possibility that we could finish lower. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:17]
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I think it's eight teams. Have a list of them, but am not at home. | |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 21:57 - Mar 6 with 3307 views | Superfrans |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:16 - Mar 6 by KilburnBlue |
Mentioned this in a another thread a couple of days ago when someone mentioned this could be our worse season in decades.
Since we got out of the third tier 60 years ago we have never been back. Only a handful of clubs have stayed in the top two flights in that time & Im proud our club is one of them.
We Finished 16th in the 58/59 season so still a possibility that we could finish lower. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:17]
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The only clubs who haven't fallen below the second tier since 1960 are Man Utd, Spurs, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, West Ham, Newcastle and Ipswich Town. That's a pretty select little group. |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 22:13 - Mar 6 with 3281 views | MedwayTractor |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:16 - Mar 6 by KilburnBlue |
Mentioned this in a another thread a couple of days ago when someone mentioned this could be our worse season in decades.
Since we got out of the third tier 60 years ago we have never been back. Only a handful of clubs have stayed in the top two flights in that time & Im proud our club is one of them.
We Finished 16th in the 58/59 season so still a possibility that we could finish lower. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:17]
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The only other clubs (seven of them), who have been in the top two tiers all that time have never been lower, as they all joined the Football League when it was one or two divisions only. |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 22:24 - Mar 6 with 3254 views | bournemouthblue |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:26 - Mar 6 by 3_5_2 |
What?
His attitude was awful? You went to the game yes?
We were 3 nil down in no time and the first 45 minutes we were penned almost totally in our own half. The "service" he received was a succession of hoofs which their CB won every time. He is a box player and he needs chances, on the floor mainly in and around the 18 yard box. That night he was totally isolated.
That had nothing to do with with his attitude, it was a shocking, awful team performance since which, MM has at least shortened up the play and tried to play a bit. Ironically on Saturday, Pitman was the better suited player for us when we neede a change but we went route one again with Moore. |
When Moore is provided with similar service and does similarly little with it, he is immediately labelled as useless [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 22:25]
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 22:45 - Mar 6 with 3199 views | ipswich4life |
Think your forgetting Super mick saved us from relegation 4 years ago,with No budget,cant expect to try and play football with no money that's bonkers,we lucky to have him,he'd walk into any top job,be careful what you wish for |  | | |
| worst league finish for 58 years? (n/t) on 00:24 - Mar 7 with 3119 views | Rocky |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 19:16 - Mar 6 by KilburnBlue |
Mentioned this in a another thread a couple of days ago when someone mentioned this could be our worse season in decades.
Since we got out of the third tier 60 years ago we have never been back. Only a handful of clubs have stayed in the top two flights in that time & Im proud our club is one of them.
We Finished 16th in the 58/59 season so still a possibility that we could finish lower. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 19:17]
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Maybe it's an omen.
Look what hapened in 1960/61 and then 1961/62 [Post edited 7 Mar 2017 0:27]
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 01:12 - Mar 7 with 3077 views | Barneycurley |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 17:32 - Mar 6 by Ftnfwest |
In transfer fees at least Brentfords starting 11 cost twenty times that of ours |
But what about wages. Its all about the wages!! |  |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 05:46 - Mar 7 with 2984 views | Benters |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 01:12 - Mar 7 by Barneycurley |
But what about wages. Its all about the wages!! |
and da fanzone | |
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| worst league finish for 58 years? on 05:50 - Mar 7 with 2983 views | Benters |
| worst league finish for 58 years? on 18:09 - Mar 6 by BlueBadger |
And they currently sit one place and one point above us... [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 18:09]
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Yeah but we have gone off on one again it still could be the worse finish in 58 yrs | |
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