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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... 13:51 - Nov 27 with 13374 views

....."It was never on. Â£5m? I've not spent that in my time here!"

"If I had Â£5m to spend, I would have to split it to strengthen the team anyway".

Evans out.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:53 - Nov 27 with 6611 views

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Can't disagree with that.

But even with £5m to spend what would we see on the pitch.

ME and MM out

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That's the Â£5m question.... on 13:57 - Nov 27 with 6571 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:53 - Nov 27 by textbackup
Can't disagree with that. But even with £5m to spend what would we see on the pitch. ME and MM out

....isn't it?

Nobody knows.

Expect we'll find out when Guardiola takes over.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 with 6571 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:53 - Nov 27 by textbackup
Can't disagree with that. But even with £5m to spend what would we see on the pitch. ME and MM out

Yep.

But, he always implies he's spent nowt. We've wasted loads on wages. Either for loanees or short term permenant signings that haven't worked out. Our wage bill is sizeable for a mediocre squad.
Yes, compared to the rest of the division it's still quite low - but that's not the point through. Money is tight. The club is losing money on matchdays due to dwindling PR crowds.

I just don't agree with the "I've spent nothing here"

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That's the Â£5m question.... on 14:01 - Nov 27 with 6544 views

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That's the Â£5m question.... on 13:57 - Nov 27 by Bloots
....isn't it? Nobody knows. Expect we'll find out when Guardiola takes over.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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...the wages not the manager.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:02 - Nov 27 with 6531 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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What is our wage bill and how does it compare to others in our division?

The owner negotiates.... on 14:06 - Nov 27 with 6508 views

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The owner negotiates.... on 14:01 - Nov 27 by Bloots
...the wages not the manager.

But if MM wants to bring in SEB & a brother Hunt...

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:02 - Nov 27 by longtimefan
What is our wage bill and how does it compare to others in our division?

£16m annually, our friendly foes up the road is currently standing at £55m.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:08 - Nov 27 with 6494 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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Our wage bill is about 17th in the division from the last time those kind of figures were published, so no it isn’t

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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A 5-million-pound player also involves vastly inflated wages unless you sign them from League 2.

So there's that as well.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:12 - Nov 27 with 6457 views

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Why would we want to spend money on players who create and score goals. Total waste of money...

Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:14 - Nov 27 with 6446 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:09 - Nov 27 by Darth_Koont
A 5-million-pound player also involves vastly inflated wages unless you sign them from League 2. So there's that as well.

Yes. There is that too. Had we even been able to afford the £5m, could/would we been able to afford the wages he'd have been demanding - plus afforded the wages for any other signings!?

Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:15 - Nov 27 with 6432 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:12 - Nov 27 by Northern_Blue81
Why would we want to spend money on players who create and score goals. Total waste of money...

Celina is better than Lawrence and did not cost peanuts.

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Because that's all..... on 14:16 - Nov 27 with 6426 views

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The owner negotiates.... on 14:06 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy
But if MM wants to bring in SEB & a brother Hunt...

...the budget will allow.

We do have to fulfill our fixtures you know.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:08 - Nov 27 by C_HealyIsAPleasure
Our wage bill is about 17th in the division from the last time those kind of figures were published, so no it isn’t

Swiss Ramble released something in April 2017.

But that was for the 15/16 season (I think)
We were mid table on wages back then.

Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:16 - Nov 27 with 6424 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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Our wage bill was something like the 6th lowest in this division last season and one of the lowest in the top 3 tiers of English football.

I'd say our wage bill is bang on for what is delivered on the pitch.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:18 - Nov 27 with 6412 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:15 - Nov 27 by SomethingBlue
Celina is better than Lawrence and did not cost peanuts.

Jury is out on that one. Lawrence scored 11 goals in his 30 odd games here, not sure how many assists he had but he had a good record.

Celina also a good player, but, Lawrence is arguably more suited to championship football at this time.

Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:18 - Nov 27 with 6411 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:16 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy
Swiss Ramble released something in April 2017. But that was for the 15/16 season (I think) We were mid table on wages back then.

So we don't have a large wage bill then in comparison to the rest of the division.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:20 - Nov 27 with 6401 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 13:58 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy

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But wages are a more prudent way of spending money though, aren't they?

Luring players with the promise of a bigger salary, all of which goes to the player (rather than their club) is a sensible way of operating, surely?

Look at someone like Waghorn, who might be costing us £500k-£700k per year in salary, on top of his £1m transfer fee (if it was that high) - compared to Lawrence, who will more likely be costing Derby £700k-£1m per year in salary, on top of the £5m fee.

Signing Lawrence would have required us to add an extra third to our wages budget (currently about £16m). It would have been madness.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:24 - Nov 27 with 6360 views

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I'm coming round more and more to Bloots' point that the Manager is hamstrung and that our ongoing malaise is not really his fault. Rhetorical question but who else could keep us up around the mid/top of the table with one of the lowest wage bills in the league?

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:24 - Nov 27 with 6356 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:18 - Nov 27 by Herbivore
So we don't have a large wage bill then in comparison to the rest of the division.

Who cares about the rest of the division.
We have a sizeable wage bill for a mediocre bang-average squad.

I understand the scattergun transfer approach of Forest & Nodge seriously throws the Spending Table all over the place, especially when those teams aren't doing well. But wolves have spent big and they've spent well.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:24 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy
Who cares about the rest of the division. We have a sizeable wage bill for a mediocre bang-average squad. I understand the scattergun transfer approach of Forest & Nodge seriously throws the Spending Table all over the place, especially when those teams aren't doing well. But wolves have spent big and they've spent well. [Post edited 27 Nov 2017 14:30]

Because it's all relative isn't it? We have a mediocre squad because we have a below average wage bill, it's not rocket science. If we want a better squad we need better players and they cost more money in both fees and wages. There's a reason that sides with double our wage bill have better squads than us.

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:41 - Nov 27 with 6280 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence.... on 14:15 - Nov 27 by SomethingBlue
Celina is better than Lawrence and did not cost peanuts.

Don't you realise that NorthernBlue is talking about spending money on permanent signings?

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:31 - Nov 27 by Herbivore
Because it's all relative isn't it? We have a mediocre squad because we have a below average wage bill, it's not rocket science. If we want a better squad we need better players and they cost more money in both fees and wages. There's a reason that sides with double our wage bill have better squads than us.

I don't buy that entirely.

PNE have spent even less than us & are operating with a much lower wage-bill than us.
We've both got 26pts.

Are you aware of Sheffield Utd's operating costs?

Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:45 - Nov 27 with 6252 views

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Mick on Tom Lawrence....I'm on 14:42 - Nov 27 by Johnny_Boy
I don't buy that entirely. PNE have spent even less than us & are operating with a much lower wage-bill than us. We've both got 26pts. Are you aware of Sheffield Utd's operating costs?

Preston spent more than we did during the summer, for what it's worth.

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